WvW Dungeon Reward Tracks - new dungeon currency useless to exclusive WvW players

[cosmic charlie.6201]

Since the update (2022-06-07) that changed the dungeon currency to Tales of Dungeon Delving, all of the 6000+ tokens that I earned exclusively via WvW dungeon reward tracks has become unspendable unless I go back and run each dungeon 4 or 5 times. This would mean I would have to find 4 other players willing to run 5 x 8 dungeons (40) to get back the privelige to spend dungeon tokens that I earned prior to the currency change. 

I think that it is unfair that this change negated the ability to spend my dungeon tokens, and thus my ability to craft gen 1 Legendary weapons.

I believe those tracks were put in WvW so that WvW-only players could earn and spend dungeon currencies without running the dungeons.

My preference would be to have the dungeon run requirement waived or grandfathered for WvW players with dungeon tokens, but that is perhaps asking too much.

As a compromise, I would like to propose that from now on, completing a WvW reward track would count as completing one of that dungeon's explorable runs.

(I created this topic in response to a suggestion from Support, as they were not able to provide more than sympathy, and "run the dungeons" as a remedy.

[Zikory.6871]

Weird, I haven't ran a dungeon since 2013 and have crafted a gen 1 since the change. 

[Xenesis.6389]

16 minutes ago, cosmic charlie.6201 said:

My preference would be to have the dungeon run requirement waived or grandfathered for WvW players with dungeon tokens, but that is perhaps asking too much.

Um, they were grandfathered in as far as I can tell with the notes. You had to run the dungeon to permanently unlock the track before anyways.

 

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• To purchase exotic armor, weapons, and legendary gifts from dungeon merchants, players are now required to complete the dungeon explorable mode associated with the item.
  • Note: Accounts that have already completed any story mode or explorable path before this change are exempt from this requirement.

 

Also... if support told you to post in wvw forums... that pretty much means they chucked your problem into the cornerstone trashcan.

[Chaba.5410]

This post doesn't make sense.  All the currency I had from reward tracks was converted to the new one.

23 minutes ago, cosmic charlie.6201 said:

all of the 6000+ tokens that I earned exclusively via WvW dungeon reward tracks has become unspendable

[cosmic charlie.6201]

All converted, yes, but unusable unless you run a given dungeon explorable 5 times to buy a leggie gift. 

Prior to the change, all the dungeon vendors were open to me, so I could buy weapons, armor, and gifts.

Now I can only buy the runes.

 

WvW players were not grandfathered.

[Xenesis.6389]

16 minutes ago, cosmic charlie.6201 said:

All converted, yes, but unusable unless you run a given dungeon explorable 5 times to buy a leggie gift. 

Prior to the change, all the dungeon vendors were open to me, so I could buy weapons, armor, and gifts.

Now I can only buy the runes.

 

WvW players were not grandfathered.

I haven't run dungeons in years and everything is open to me. 🤷‍♂️

https://i.imgur.com/3XA07eE.jpg

Edited January 4, 2023 by Xenesis.6389

[Fenom.9457]

55 minutes ago, Chaba.5410 said:

This post doesn't make sense.  All the currency I had from reward tracks was converted to the new one.

this is what confused me about the post, I don’t grasp how they have been made useless

[cosmic charlie.6201]

for comparison.

Dungeon status and vendor

 

Note that I can only buy runes.

Note that I have run a couple of dungeons (log ago) but not enough to unlock them.

What is discouraging is that the vendors were unlocked prior to the update.

[Dawdler.8521]

1 hour ago, cosmic charlie.6201 said:

This would mean I would have to find 4 other players willing to run 5 x 8 dungeons (40) to get back the privelige to spend dungeon tokens that I earned prior to the currency change. 

Cant you solo most dungeons nowadays?

Or worst case scenario like duo them.

[Xenesis.6389]

8 minutes ago, cosmic charlie.6201 said:

for comparison.

Dungeon status and vendor

 

Note that I can only buy runes.

Note that I have run a couple of dungeons (log ago) but not enough to unlock them.

What is discouraging is that the vendors were unlocked prior to the update.

Well kitten, now I'm confused cause I even have stuff unlocked to dungeons I never ran...

https://i.imgur.com/f6RSe3U.jpg

[cosmic charlie.6201]

1 hour ago, cosmic charlie.6201 said:

This would mean I would have to find 4 other players willing to run 5 x 8 dungeons (40) to get back the privelige to spend dungeon tokens that I earned prior to the currency change. 

OK, to be honest after looking at achieves, for 4 of the dungeons, I have done 4 paths, so the number is more like 24 runs, not 40

[Gotejjeken.1267]

I solo a few story modes just prior to the change to get around that req, because I needed Tyria masteries and don't have a solid Fractal group.  

Anyway, I have no idea if the change makes sense or not as never bought anything from a dungeon vendor prior.  Did you need to run the dungeon before to spend any currency you earned in WvW?

If not, I'd say yeah bad change; if so, then not sure how it differs from any of the other PvE related things you need to actually PvE for (aurora, vision, skyscale, etc. etc.).  

Edited January 4, 2023 by Gotejjeken.1267

[Chaba.5410]

57 minutes ago, cosmic charlie.6201 said:

for comparison.

Dungeon status and vendor

 

Note that I can only buy runes.

Note that I have run a couple of dungeons (log ago) but not enough to unlock them.

What is discouraging is that the vendors were unlocked prior to the update.

OK so this is becoming more clear.

First, notice that your old currency has all been converted to the new currency.

Second, I recall there was some bug related to the vendor and dungeon paths.  If you already played any story mode or explorable path for a specific dungeon before the change, you're supposed to be able to use the vendor correctly.  I'm not entirely sure if they had fixed this problem correctly though.  You'll want to do the minimum due diligence and make sure you are talking to the dungeon vendor with the same character that completed the dungeon's story or explorable path.  You need to have had run the story mode to unlock the dungeon WvW reward track in the first place (outside of the weekly rotation).  If you never ran the story mode for the dungeon, then this bug doesn't apply to you and you will indeed need to follow the new process.
 

 

Edited January 4, 2023 by Chaba.5410

[TheGrimm.5624]

Cosmic & Xen, where was the vendors you were interacting with? Could this be an issue that the same vendor in different locations are acting differently? Have seen that bug in the past. Aka was one talking to the vendor in LA and another was talking to the vendor in the Bastion per say? 

[Xenesis.6389]

5 minutes ago, TheGrimm.5624 said:

Cosmic & Xen, where was the vendors you were interacting with? Could this be an issue that the same vendor in different locations are acting differently? Have seen that bug in the past. Aka was one talking to the vendor in LA and another was talking to the vendor in the Bastion per say? 

I was in LA.

[TheGrimm.5624]

48 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said:

I was in LA.

 

When I can get in game later curious to check this one. Haven't been in a Dungeon for a number of years now as well and don't remember if last Leggo was before or after that change. Will have to see where Cosmic was at.

[cosmic charlie.6201]

Also LA. Haven't tried at any others. Will do so. Thanks for responding. 🙂