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Sword/Wahorn Catalyst is fun and easy so that means it's going to get nerfed within a week


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The WH nerf basically killed FA dps tempst off aswell, it was pretty much all it had goin for it, horn 4/5+constant air overloads stacked vuln and was good dmg that led to area denial. It still does good dmg, but you sacrifice so much for it, plenty of specs do more dmg with better sustain, and are not a sitting duck during overload (LB barage is just better.. similar dmg/denial with no risk). All of the WH cc is also countered by stability, which means you are in trouble fast if jumped by a melee with stability, which you will be, often. The water fields on WH/sword are also horrible to combo with, forcing retreats you might not want, or pushes forward you might not want, in order to combo.

 

Hammer is fun, but an absolute joke on tempest/core, water 3 needs to be a water field becuase their is 0 sustain.. the weapon is litterally designed to combo. You can't give it a combo field in each attunement obviously.. or thats just the best of cata with the best of temepst overlaods.. but it most certainly needs 1 water combo field to be at all usable.

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3 hours ago, Flowki.7194 said:

The WH nerf basically killed FA dps tempst off aswell, it was pretty much all it had goin for it, horn 4/5+constant air overloads stacked vuln and was good dmg that led to area denial. It still does good dmg, but you sacrifice so much for it, plenty of specs do more dmg with better sustain, and are not a sitting duck during overload (LB barage is just better.. similar dmg/denial with no risk). All of the WH cc is also countered by stability, which means you are in trouble fast if jumped by a melee with stability, which you will be, often. The water fields on WH/sword are also horrible to combo with, forcing retreats you might not want, or pushes forward you might not want, in order to combo.

Feel like the Warhorn nerfs are not quite done yet, going to be more with the next patch

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53 minutes ago, Mini Crinny.6190 said:

Feel like the Warhorn nerfs are not quite done yet, going to be more with the next patch

On what spec? Im not at the top level and tbf the tempests and rare catas I see are not ''wrecking'' with any loadout. Obviously they have high sustain when played well, which can be annoying, but its better than fighting warrior/gaurdians, for sure.

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47 minutes ago, Flowki.7194 said:

On what spec? Im not at the top level and tbf the tempests and rare catas I see are not ''wrecking'' with any loadout. Obviously they have high sustain when played well, which can be annoying, but its better than fighting warrior/gaurdians, for sure.

Its pretty much used on every meta spec right now Sw/Wh is very popular

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34 minutes ago, manu.7539 said:

After reading this post I crafted a warhorn to give it a try. What a terrible weapon, range is small but mostly projectiles are moving so slow that its useless in wvw. Your target got enough time to type /sleep before walking away safely. Worst weapon I ever tried!

yeah it doesn't work in wvw as you are not focused on fighting on a point or have chokepoints when duelling.

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4 hours ago, Mini Crinny.6190 said:

Its pretty much used on every meta spec right now Sw/Wh is very popular

I havent seen any meta spec using it. Where can I find these builds?

 

From what Ive tried, condi cata with sword/dagger is good, since daggers CC can setup swords slow hitters, but its not as good as power hammer cata. Although it does have better escape with ride the wind.

 

FA builds just don't do good enough dmg with sword/worhorn imo, not for the massive hp/sustain hit. Plenty specs doing more dmg with more sustain.

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1 hour ago, Flowki.7194 said:

I havent seen any meta spec using it. Where can I find these builds?

 

From what Ive tried, condi cata with sword/dagger is good, since daggers CC can setup swords slow hitters, but its not as good as power hammer cata. Although it does have better escape with ride the wind.

 

FA builds just don't do good enough dmg with sword/worhorn imo, not for the massive hp/sustain hit. Plenty specs doing more dmg with more sustain.

These builds were listed as Recommended

https://snowcrows.com/builds/elementalist/weaver/power-weaver
https://snowcrows.com/builds/elementalist/weaver/condition-weaver
https://snowcrows.com/builds/elementalist/catalyst/power-catalyst
https://snowcrows.com/builds/elementalist/catalyst/power-quickness-catalyst

These builds were listed as Effective

https://snowcrows.com/builds/elementalist/tempest/condition-tempest

https://snowcrows.com/builds/elementalist/tempest/heal-alacrity-tempest

https://snowcrows.com/builds/elementalist/tempest/condition-alacrity-tempest

 

Also to point out Power catalyst is benching at 46k at the moment

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On 9/19/2023 at 12:52 PM, Mini Crinny.6190 said:

ah possibly, but I still wouldnt rule out the possibility of WH nerfs in PvP just because its good in PvE

Just...wtf is left to nerf on ele? the kittening name?....They should praise the gods, there is still a bunch of idiots playing this joke of a class

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On 9/21/2023 at 12:47 AM, Mini Crinny.6190 said:

No not yet, but since Sw/Wh is used in literally every build, it's going to take a hit I think, not as much as scourge but still

I wish it had been that....but no they get the bright idea to nerf the traits, now everyone will have to run sw/wh because the other weapons will just be that much worse in comparison...

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