StraightPath.3972 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 How about letting a professions *cough* warrior *cough* use a spear as both 2h and 1h option? You equip a spear and no offhand - it's a 2h spear with full set of skills. You equip a spear and an offhand - it becomes a 1h javelin and gets it's own, separate set of 3 skills. Something new using already existing and established mechanics! You don't want to power creep a weapon by giving it 9 skills in total but feel 5 are just not enough? There's your solution - two separate weapons from one, saving time, money and balance headaches! 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 I'd imagine that spears are well past the concept phase at this point. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightPath.3972 Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, kharmin.7683 said: I'd imagine that spears are well past the concept phase at this point. I know, but it's still an idea that one day may get used, even if I'm late to this particular party. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Hope springs eternal, it is said. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker.6924 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) I would argue that your offhand would be limited to a shield if you had a 1h spear main hand. I don’t recall ever seeing a historical document that showed spears “dual wielded” with anything other than a shield. They were either used by themselves 2h (like massively long pikes) or 1h with shields in a phalanx or shield wall formation. I don’t think it will happen at least for this expansion. ETA: Looking at the first look video for guardian, necro, and ranger spear abilities the guardian is shown using a shield ability at the very beginning of the demo (10-second mark). Not sure if that is a shield from a spear weapon ability or a shield from some other ability. https://youtu.be/WWA736aYVJI?t=10 Edited June 7 by Tinker.6924 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asket.5674 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) I wished for 1h spear… … but I’ll take 2h nevertheless Edited June 7 by asket.5674 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejgon.9367 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, Tinker.6924 said: guardian is shown using a shield ability at the very beginning of the demo That is aegis boon, from virtue of courage passive. On side note, something a number of players asked for ability to disable that passive, because it messes with their fashion 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega.6801 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) The problem here beside having to coede the game in a way that it recognizes a weapon in two different ways i.e. a new way to the engine rewriting twelve year old code, are the stats on the weapon. A far easier way to get a javelin is to implement that funcionality via the skills, which is what they're doing as it seems. Edited June 7 by Omega.6801 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therac.6431 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) Spear can only be used with Shield, any other offhand + spear looks like a kryptis abomination Edited June 8 by Therac.6431 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabootrinket.2631 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) That could be a focus for the next expansion but in a broader way : Make all 1H weapons have all 5 weapon skills when wielded alone, and allowing some 2H weapons being used with an offhand on certain builds. Example : Elementalist's staff, warrior's 2H sword, Guardian's spear, engineer's rifle, etc Edited June 8 by Tabootrinket.2631 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos God.1639 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 and engineers should have robot arms that can be used to equip more weapons 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuk.6840 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 We could make a scavenger Monster Hunter set , that when complete you get awarded the Amulet of Hunter and improve Spear for each profession . Make it 1-handed Slow attacks (LI build) Can be used from mounts that has 1hp First people that stabs the boss , distribute invisible orbs that when picked by other people , their auto attack changes to ranged for 2 sec (and it chains to others) . When 30 attacks have been made in 20 sec and big blu half circle around the boss will show up , where people can "que up" their attack attack for a big cordinated attack on the boss (just like coordinated dance) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasya neko.1985 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 they kinda screwed the most obvious chance up by not making the necro version a scythe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazing Rathalos.1904 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Not going to happen, spears have the stats of a 2H weapon, so they can't be used as a 1H weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Calaway.9718 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 On 6/7/2024 at 1:24 PM, StraightPath.3972 said: You don't want to power creep a weapon by giving it 9 skills in total but feel 5 are just not enough? Elementalists are getting 20 skills at least on Spear... more than that with Weaver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSevSpreeX.2143 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 On 6/8/2024 at 4:31 PM, Chaos God.1639 said: and engineers should have robot arms that can be used to equip more weapons Queue General Grievous fashion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batalix.2873 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) I'm truly amazed. They did the extremely improbable and implemented land spears like you all have been asking for, in spite of all the incongruity they create across weapon design, espec design, weapon skins, underwater combat, etc. And I see several threads already clamoring for one-handed spears. Nevermind all the other things in this game that direly need renovation. Edited June 26 by Batalix.2873 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiawolf.8261 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Batalix.2873 said: Nevermind all the other things in this game that direly need renovation. Renovation doesn't sell expansions. New housing, spears, missions, stories, and maps do. But maybe all the money they are making with swimsuits can help to fund some desirable QOL and renovation. Here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 On 6/8/2024 at 11:31 PM, Chaos God.1639 said: and engineers should have robot arms that can be used to equip more weapons I know you're being sarcastic but for some reason this feels far more likely than the other suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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