If a-net wants to experiment with spears, here's an idea

[StraightPath.3972]

How about letting a professions *cough* warrior *cough* use a spear as both 2h and 1h option?

You equip a spear and no offhand - it's a 2h spear with full set of skills.
You equip a spear and an offhand - it becomes a 1h javelin and gets it's own, separate set of 3 skills.

Something new using already existing and established mechanics!
You don't want to power creep a weapon by giving it 9 skills in total but feel 5 are just not enough?
There's your solution - two separate weapons from one, saving time, money and balance headaches!

[kharmin.7683]

I'd imagine that spears are well past the concept phase at this point.

[StraightPath.3972]

1 minute ago, kharmin.7683 said:

I'd imagine that spears are well past the concept phase at this point.

I know, but it's still an idea that one day may get used, even if I'm late to this particular party.

[kharmin.7683]

Hope springs eternal, it is said.

[Tinker.6924]

I would argue that your offhand would be limited to a shield if you had a 1h spear main hand. 

I don’t recall ever seeing a historical document that showed spears “dual wielded” with anything other than a shield. They were either used by themselves 2h (like massively long pikes) or 1h with shields in a phalanx or shield wall formation. 

I don’t think it will happen at least for this expansion. 

ETA: Looking at the first look video for guardian, necro, and ranger spear abilities the guardian is shown using a shield ability at the very beginning of the demo (10-second mark). Not sure if that is a shield from a spear weapon ability or a shield from some other ability.

https://youtu.be/WWA736aYVJI?t=10

 

Edited June 7 by Tinker.6924

[asket.5674]

I wished for 1h spear…

… but I’ll take 2h nevertheless 

Edited June 7 by asket.5674

[Trejgon.9367]

1 hour ago, Tinker.6924 said:

guardian is shown using a shield ability at the very beginning of the demo

That is aegis boon, from virtue of courage passive. On side note, something a number of players asked for ability to disable that passive, because it messes with their fashion 😉

[Omega.6801]

The problem here beside having to coede the game in a way that it recognizes a weapon in two different ways i.e. a new way to the engine rewriting twelve year old code, are the stats on the weapon. A far easier way to get a javelin is to implement that funcionality via the skills, which is what they're doing as it seems.

Edited June 7 by Omega.6801

[Therac.6431]

Spear can only be used with Shield, any other offhand + spear looks like a kryptis abomination

Edited June 8 by Therac.6431

[Tabootrinket.2631]

That could be a focus for the next expansion but in a broader way :
Make all 1H weapons have all 5 weapon skills when wielded alone, and allowing some 2H weapons being used with an offhand on certain builds.
Example : Elementalist's staff, warrior's 2H sword, Guardian's spear, engineer's rifle, etc

Edited June 8 by Tabootrinket.2631

[Chaos God.1639]

and engineers should have robot arms that can be used to equip more weapons

[Ryuk.6840]

We could make a scavenger  Monster Hunter set , that when complete you get awarded the Amulet of Hunter and  improve Spear for each profession .

Make it 1-handed

Slow attacks (LI build)

Can be used from mounts that has 1hp

First people that stabs the boss , distribute invisible orbs that when picked by other people , their auto attack changes to ranged for 2 sec (and it chains to others) . When 30 attacks have been made in 20 sec and big blu half  circle around the boss will show up , where people can "que up" their attack attack for a big cordinated attack on the boss (just like coordinated dance)

[sasya neko.1985]

they kinda screwed the most obvious chance up by not making the necro version a scythe.

[Blazing Rathalos.1904]

Not going to happen, spears have the stats of a 2H weapon, so they can't be used as a 1H weapon.

[Dean Calaway.9718]

On 6/7/2024 at 1:24 PM, StraightPath.3972 said:

You don't want to power creep a weapon by giving it 9 skills in total but feel 5 are just not enough?

Elementalists are getting 20 skills at least on Spear... more than that with Weaver.

[XSevSpreeX.2143]

On 6/8/2024 at 4:31 PM, Chaos God.1639 said:

and engineers should have robot arms that can be used to equip more weapons

Queue General Grievous fashion.

[Batalix.2873]

I'm truly amazed. They did the extremely improbable and implemented land spears like you all have been asking for, in spite of all the incongruity they create across weapon design, espec design, weapon skins, underwater combat, etc.

And I see several threads already clamoring for one-handed spears. Nevermind all the other things in this game that direly need renovation.

Edited Wednesday at 03:57 AM by Batalix.2873

[Gaiawolf.8261]

1 hour ago, Batalix.2873 said:

Nevermind all the other things in this game that direly need renovation.

Renovation doesn't sell expansions. New housing, spears, missions, stories, and maps do. But maybe all the money they are making with swimsuits can help to fund some desirable QOL and renovation. Here's hoping.

[Gehenna.3625]

On 6/8/2024 at 11:31 PM, Chaos God.1639 said:

and engineers should have robot arms that can be used to equip more weapons

I know you're being sarcastic but for some reason this feels far more likely than the other suggestions.