HekateKitty.1796 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) WvW & PvE Warclaw no longer forward dashes unless you dodge, before it would work when you would jump/hit space. To clarify "Disable Conditional Mount Movement Ability Input" is NOT on Edited August 20 by HekateKitty.1796 Clarification / Additional Info 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaidy.1824 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Same, having this issue to. Other mounts doesn't seem to be affected 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanya.1697 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Disable Conditional Mount Movement Ability Input setting does not change anything for me anymore 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Rubi Bayer.8493 Posted August 20 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted August 20 I did a quick check into this and it is intended as part of the warclaw's skill updates. The warclaw now jumps instead of dashes upon pressing the jump button. Dash is still available using the skill bar. 1 3 26 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaidy.1824 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) well thats just silly..... The Jackal doesn't have this. It can jump and dodge. Edited August 20 by Jaidy.1824 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) I preferred when we had a choice for it to work on jump, there is an option to turn it off. And that's mostly why I don't understand why this change took place now. Edited August 20 by Sobx.1758 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HekateKitty.1796 Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rubi Bayer.8493 said: I did a quick check into this and it is intended as part of the warclaw's skill updates. The warclaw now jumps instead of dashes upon pressing the jump button. Dash is still available using the skill bar. Then what's the point of us having the Disable Conditional Mount Movement Ability Input option? Not to mention the fact that Raptors long jump skill is triggered when jumping. Edited August 20 by HekateKitty.1796 Typos 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skie.8904 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rubi Bayer.8493 said: I did a quick check into this and it is intended as part of the warclaw's skill updates. The warclaw now jumps instead of dashes upon pressing the jump button. Dash is still available using the skill bar. Should have probably been mentioned as part of it's rework notes. I'm guessing it's because jump will now trigger the double jumping thing, and dash becomes just a side skill. HOWEVER: This also happens in WvW, where there's no double jump. That kinda sucks. Edited August 20 by Skie.8904 WvW addition 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceMarine.1836 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, HekateKitty.1796 said: Then what's the point of us having the Disable Conditional Mount Movement Ability Input option? Not to mention the fact that Raptors long jump skill is triggered when jumping. Yes, exactly. I call BS on that statement. It's especially concerning given that if anyone should know, it's ArenaNet staff.... 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardy.3592 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Workaround is to change your bind for Mount Ability 1 to also have spacebar. From my own testing this will return the pre-patch functionality to all mounts except for Skyscale. This will break your ability to fly. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neven.7528 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) or just use your dodge key while on the mount, if you tap/hold it you will dash for the max distance. Its not the end of the world, and it makes sense with the primary ability being taken up by PvE-lands variant of warclaw. As WvW players, you should know how to use your dodge key already, so its not even an inconvenience. Edited August 20 by neven.7528 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurosy.1384 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 it's quite confusing ngl! xD 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feffi.6981 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 This ist confusing and inconsistent in my opinion. It was not mentioned anywhere, just breaking gaming experience. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 It's a change that affects muscle memory retraining, thats bad. But in princile I like that jump (space) and leap (dodge on v for me) are now separated, jumps don't consume endurance and are sometimes needed for terrain. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton h bandler.3509 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 This is a major design and testing failure. EVERY other mount will use space bar as normal apart from warclaw. The keybind workaround breaks the skyscale flight. What were they thinking? This is really lazy development. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceMarine.1836 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) I just wish that key mapping of mount abilities worked... FOR ALL MOUNTS, consistently. There's currently no key mapping setup that doesn't break anything in both PvE and WvW. Don't have this mount ability 1/2 nonsense. Just add Mount 1-5 skill key bindings that completely override weapon skill keybindings when mounted. That's it. Right now it's this weird BS where part of the ability skill bar hotkeys "bleed through" from the weapon hotkeys, while other part is overriden, but only for some specific mount types. It's ridiculous. Edited August 21 by SpaceMarine.1836 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero.7369 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) hmm i find it kinda intuitive there that the jump now actually jumps 😄 Edited August 21 by Nero.7369 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinopia.5134 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I would say Warclaw is the only mount so far that have done it right. 1-5 is bound to 1-5 weapon abilities, and jump is bound to normal jump key. The other ones have 2 random mount abilities bound to strange other keys that often disrupts other key-binds if bound to the wrong key. They should remake the other mounts to mirror the warclaw, or make individual hotkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjentra.3409 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 hours ago, SpaceMarine.1836 said: I just wish that key mapping of mount abilities worked... FOR ALL MOUNTS, consistently. There's currently no key mapping setup that doesn't break anything in both PvE and WvW. Don't have this mount ability 1/2 nonsense. Just add Mount 1-5 skill key bindings that completely override weapon skill keybindings when mounted. That's it. Right now it's this weird BS where part of the ability skill bar hotkeys "bleed through" from the weapon hotkeys, while other part is overriden, but only for some specific mount types. It's ridiculous. Agreed about the 1-5 mount specific ones; currently i have to click Chain pull WITH MY MOUSE because i can't use the key binding it's set to; which for me is "E" (Weapon skill #3), which is also bound to mount ability #2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b u n i.1324 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 22 hours ago, Rubi Bayer.8493 said: I did a quick check into this and it is intended as part of the warclaw's skill updates. The warclaw now jumps instead of dashes upon pressing the jump button. Dash is still available using the skill bar. WvW Warclaw no longer has a conditional mount ability on spacebar. It has always been [dash] the same way the roller beetle works when you hit spacebar and it uses its conditional mount ability [Boost]. WvW Warclaw's only conditional ability is the dash ability, and "disable conditional mount movement ability input" has been the means to remove the dash from spacebar on Warclaw in WvW. This has been the defaulted ability on spacebar as the mounts only conditional movement ability since 2019. WvW Warclaw cannot air jump and doesnt have the ability to dash while in the air like its PvE counterpart. The core function of this mount is different in each game mode. As much as its tooltips, skins, and skill icons look the same; the purpose, overall mobility, and skills of the mount are completely different. Settings and changes should reflect an understanding of this with it being repurposed as new content in a completely different game mode. This feature being removed from WvW seems out of place as the function of the Warclaw in WvW has not changed. Hopefully, this was an oversight, not an actual intended change, and we will see a fix for this issue as this is very inconvenient for many of the WvW players that I've talked to since the expansion's launch. Currently, there is no way for players to revert back to the old settings that, for 5 years, have been the default and muscle memory for them. Settings to toggle "Conditional Mount Movement Ability Input" for each mount and game mode individually would be my only recommendation to solve this issue with it adding the dash ability back to spacebar for WvW. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicoper.3215 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 14 hours ago, Sjentra.3409 said: Agreed about the 1-5 mount specific ones; currently i have to click Chain pull WITH MY MOUSE because i can't use the key binding it's set to; which for me is "E" (Weapon skill #3), which is also bound to mount ability #2 I'm having the same issue, albeit with spear throw (skill #4) since it shares a bind with Mount Ability #2 in my case. I like it that way since they typically occupy the same skill slot on the hotbar for other mounts. Very annoying, if I'll be honest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRDJDGMNT.2374 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 On 8/20/2024 at 12:01 PM, Rubi Bayer.8493 said: I did a quick check into this and it is intended as part of the warclaw's skill updates. The warclaw now jumps instead of dashes upon pressing the jump button. Dash is still available using the skill bar. this is stupid. change it back this is the dumbest small change that anyone could have made. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aruka.7059 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 The change to the mount in WvW is real crap, restore how it was before or differentiate between WvW and Pve! This is ridiculous Thank you 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisen.2315 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Feels super bad, bumping.- 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kneitor.9367 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Came here to find out how to reverse this horrible change, please Anet revert the WVW settings please. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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