VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 We need some timeframe here. When will this horrible, dumb mistake end? Next reset? End of September? Surely you can not be serious about continuing with this dumpsterfire? 20 2 3 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riba.3271 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) Honestly, destructuring was so bad that there is no point even logging in unless your guild is raiding. Since you cannot organise, communicate or train with people unaffected by "kicked from guild if you don't behave" threats, WvW outside guild raids is just currency farming and every loss is matchmakings fault. Edited September 13 by Riba.3271 12 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 14 minutes ago, Riba.3271 said: there is no point even logging in Then we just need a reasonable explanation why people seem log in anyway and activity is about the same as previous years without WR. 10 1 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Then we just need a reasonable explanation why people seem log in anyway and activity is about the same as previous years without WR. I definetly log in less - and my guild is playing less. The only reason why I log in at all is to spend some time with them. Even if it has become completely non-fun Edited September 13 by VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riba.3271 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: 26 minutes ago, Riba.3271 said: Then we just need a reasonable explanation why people seem log in anyway and activity is about the same as previous years without WR. It would be nice to see numbers from year ago, but I am looking at current EU reset and there are only 2.2k kills per average 6 hours after reset. Maybe the queues seem to still pop up once in a while, but the kill count definitely isn't as high as before. I am guessing people are on full maps and not playing the game because they can't find a group to play with. Edited September 13 by Riba.3271 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINSON.3278 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 WR desasterIt's I feel bad, I haven’t been able to play even after two years of rest. Cloud fly 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 10 hours ago, Riba.3271 said: It would be nice to see numbers from year ago It was posted in the "gvg enviroment" thread. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urd.8306 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 I read "Arenanet, when are you ending the WB desaster?" and agreed fully. Not so sure why WR is a desaster, do you care to elaborate? 1 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 WB and Harb should be just removed from the game. They are utterly broken designs. WR is bad because it destroyed cohesion. It took away server communities without replacement. The only people who profit from this change were the whiney bandwagoneers. Which were also the only people actually in favour of this very very questionable change. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Calaway.9718 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 On 9/13/2024 at 9:57 PM, VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. said: When will this horrible, dumb mistake end? Nevah. It's done and done, be happy with the memories you made in the past, they were made in a place that no longer exists 🚬😔🍺 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWhitey.9076 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) I think the goal is to get the balance fixed before they say it failed. Right now sides are not even and we know why. Direct quote from anet dev Cecil We have also observed an issue related to time zone population balance that is specifically affecting large guilds. Our algorithm is trying to build a representative profile of guilds for the purposes of team creation. The larger your guild becomes, the more relevant the "averages" are in your data, and the less specific the profile becomes. This creates a situation in which off-hours groups that are part of large prime-time guilds are having their data nullified by the larger group Edited September 15 by ChrisWhitey.9076 Added quote 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 It's playable, but it's soulless, basically EOTM 2.0. I would rather have my server back. 15 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 oh boohoo. After years and years of 'developing', betas and now this mess, they still can't get it right. It is really fun to be steam rolled during prime time all the time. ANET: that was sarcasm, it is not fun at all. End this. Now. It has failed. It was a bad idea. It is still a bad idea. 4 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One more for the road.8950 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 9 minutes ago, VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. said: It is really fun to be steam rolled during prime time all the time. ANET: that was sarcasm, it is not fun at all. Because that never happened on servers.... 4 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 Just now, One more for the road.8950 said: Because that never happened on servers.... not to that extend. No. Not on home borderland. And not with that consistency. Btw, I just quit. Two enemy zergs on home bl. A handful of roamers from our side. No thank you. Anet, you FAILED. Admit it and revert this garbage. 3 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One more for the road.8950 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 16 minutes ago, VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. said: not to that extend. No. Not on home borderland. And not with that consistency. Btw, I just quit. Two enemy zergs on home bl. A handful of roamers from our side. No thank you. Anet, you FAILED. Admit it and revert this garbage. Yes it did. And claiming anything else is at best ignorant. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 No. It did happen on OCCASION. But it did not happen ALL THE TIME like NOW. 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One more for the road.8950 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 minutes ago, VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. said: No. It did happen on OCCASION. But it did not happen ALL THE TIME like NOW. Then tell me what alliance guild you are in so I can point and laugh. Because unless you're in a really bad one that is always the worst, no statistics I have seen so far supports any of that. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkie.7159 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 On 9/14/2024 at 6:57 AM, VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. said: We need some timeframe here. When will this horrible, dumb mistake end? Next reset? End of September? Surely you can not be serious about continuing with this dumpsterfire? This tbh. As a paying customer of Arenanet who's game mode is WvW I would like to know wtf is going on. I have paid for this game mode with real money and I expect a quality product. Most WvWers didnt buy the Expacs for the PvE content, we bought them so we can continue playing WvW. The game developers have not delivered a quality product. WR is a clusterpuck at resets with the queues and don't even get me started on the AFKers auto running into walls for hours on end. Go back to 5 tiers and reduce guild alliance sizes to spread them out better over 5 tiers. Or go back to servers. WR isn't the solution. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulvar.1239 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 WR has been a blessing. I've never done as much WvW weekly than since WR. I got a lot more friends to play with in WvW too. 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabi black.1824 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 13 hours ago, Kulvar.1239 said: WR has been a blessing. I've never done as much WvW weekly than since WR. I got a lot more friends to play with in WvW too. We have seen that the activity in WVW has remained more or less the same. So yes you who are compensating for all my hours of play that I no longer play in WVW. You are the culprit.😉 Fortunately I give them all to you without effort, since I can't get involved with this WR. It seems right to me to give space to those who instead manage to be involved. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy.3728 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 (edited) On 9/14/2024 at 1:18 AM, Dawdler.8521 said: Then we just need a reasonable explanation why people seem log in anyway and activity is about the same as previous years without WR. Different people. New people. What do they know? Nothing. They only know the soulless system. Others complain about those new people because they can't do anything right xD Well I cannot say much about that. I also only log in when a commander of my "alliance" starts up and pings it in discord. Well and to do daily. And reset. One good thing about wr, I can play in the evening again without lags to ruin the game. Don't have much to do anymore with other players, they come and go anyway. Apart from "alliance" guilds, the small wvw guilds I was member of are quite dead. Some I haven't seen online since the wr and others come online like just once a week. And I used to play with them (3-4 of them) every afternoon after work. :s Edited September 16 by Lucy.3728 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaa.2943 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 On 9/15/2024 at 3:31 AM, ChrisWhitey.9076 said: I think the goal is to get the balance fixed before they say it failed. Right now sides are not even and we know why. Direct quote from anet dev Cecil We have also observed an issue related to time zone population balance that is specifically affecting large guilds. Our algorithm is trying to build a representative profile of guilds for the purposes of team creation. The larger your guild becomes, the more relevant the "averages" are in your data, and the less specific the profile becomes. This creates a situation in which off-hours groups that are part of large prime-time guilds are having their data nullified by the larger group I will keep on repeating this. The only time Arena Net have control over a match with their "tools" is at re-shuffle week. That is one week out of four they can ballance. Reason is simple. We are still on ONE UP/ONE DOWN. This means after first re-shuffle week Arena Net no longer place anything, it is the one up/one down that decide which worlds are facing eachother and will do so until the next re-shuffle where you get your one week again where Anet place guilds with their "tools". This is why World Restuction can never work and never be ballanced no matter how great tools there will be, because Arena Net only decide about that one week on each re-shuffle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar.1946 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Because of this change to wvw, I quit the game.I hope it never goes back to the way it was . #WR4ever 🤩🤩 ty anet 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 16 hours ago, Sugar.1946 said: Because of this change to wvw, I quit the game.I hope it never goes back to the way it was . #WR4ever 🤩🤩 ty anet It will go back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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