apharma.3741 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 @draxynnic.3719 said:@apharma.3741 said:The issue with the clone death trait was not that it punished you for killing the wrong mesmer but that it punished you for properly playing vs a mesmer by depriving them of their clones. That and the clone death traits would stack up a decent amount of bleed and weakness doing considerable damage and preventing counter attacks in some ways.Eh, I don't think "just throw around AoE and attack blindly so the clones auto-die" was actually intended to be "properly playing vs a mesmer by depriving them of their clones" on release. Clones were marketed as a genuine tool of deception, and the incentive should be to identify the mesmer and bring them down rather than just swinging at everything.Seriously, the general tactic against mesmers is just to drop lots of AoE so that illusions die before they can do anything. The clone death traits meant that mesmers actually had an answer to that strategy: the enemy has a disincentive to do that because they'll get hurt by the clone death traits (and clones that died with one of those traits had a different death animation, so you could quickly identify when a mesmer had at least one of those traits). Now, mesmers don't really have a good answer to that tactic.On release? On release people were doing a fraction of the AoE damage they are now so your point is entirely moot by your choice of time frame. Mesmer clones/phantasms in a 1v1 and 2v2 performed far better on release (camera shake days) than they do currently as now many classes do a lot of AoE damage but this wasn’t always the case and not all classes do big AoE damage. It still is the best way to deal with mesmers in 1v1 situations and depriving a chrono of its shield phantasm, other phantasms and clones was exactly the way you beat condi chrono.Clone death was a very lazy build style which relied on clone spam, can you imagine how horrible condition mirage would be with clone death? It would be possibly the most overbearing 1v1 class in the game even destroying spell breakers by clone spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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