Liberis.9573 Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 Same build still works in 2019! Lots of fun :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamm.6975 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Before I found that fire ele Weaver build I was having fun with a tempest variation of this. It worked well for me with a bit more survivability and escape power than the core version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waisenpai.6028 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I timed traveled back to May 2015 and was playing core fire ele d/d in wvw and spvp. It was fantastic! Defeat Abjured and EZPZ 1v2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 Still strong as of August 2019 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 @Liberis.9573 said:Still strong as of August 2019 :)The fact that it took you only 30 games to get there with such build says how dead and incompetent spvp really is.Gratz nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 @steki.1478 said:@Liberis.9573 said:Still strong as of August 2019 :)The fact that it took you only 30 games to get there with such build says how dead and incompetent spvp really is.Gratz nonetheless.Maybe, but I've done it every season I've played. Glass staff has been strong for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagg.9236 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I find it absolutely nuts that people run core staff ele without Lightning Rod (and Arcane Revival to a lesser extent since I get people just wanting an extra Arcane Shield), but it's cool that people manage to make it work! Oh yeah, also, might while attacking in fire instead of MORE LAVA FONT too. I guess some of the trait options are far more optional than I thought, or maybe I just enjoy surprise rezzing people from the brink and tossing people around with Tornado way too much. Oh yeah, the runes too: I can't imagine playing without Runes of Speed. Permanent super speed is delicious. The whole package displayed in the video is just so foreign to me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 October 2019 update, still works easy.Placed gold 1 as Necro. Switched back to glass staff Ele and won 8 times in a row, getting me to 1491 atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I've tried to make staff ele work, but never manged it. What do you do when there's a herald/thief/soulbeast/weaver/mesmer with decent awareness on the enemy team? Seems like they'd just instantly kill you as soon as you show up to a fight. Let's see a video of dealing with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 @"reikken.4961" said:I've tried to make staff ele work, but never manged it. What do you do when there's a herald/thief/soulbeast/weaver/mesmer with decent awareness on the enemy team? Seems like they'd just instantly kill you as soon as you show up to a fight. Let's see a video of dealing with that.You have a ton of escapes, slows, knockbacks, speed, stuns, etc.Fire 4, into Lighting 4 w/ "One with Air (Superspeed)", into air 5, into earth 4 or water 2,4, etc. You also have low CD arcane shield, plus a trait-based arcane shield, plus constant endurance regen from crits. You have a lot more survivability than you think, and it's mostly about awareness and positioning. Play the edges, play like a chicken (don't be afraid to run and waste people's time), play around your CDs, almost never participate in 1v1s (unless you have the point and your CDs are up), run INTO your team if you're getting chased (not away from the point), and preemptively drop your aoes on yourself if you need to. Your damage itself is a deterrent as well.I'll try to record another video when I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladestrom.6425 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 @Liberis.9573 said:@"reikken.4961" said:I've tried to make staff ele work, but never manged it. What do you do when there's a herald/thief/soulbeast/weaver/mesmer with decent awareness on the enemy team? Seems like they'd just instantly kill you as soon as you show up to a fight. Let's see a video of dealing with that.You have a ton of escapes, slows, knockbacks, speed, stuns, etc.Fire 4, into Lighting 4 w/ "One with Air (Superspeed)", into air 5, into earth 4 or water 2,4, etc. You also have low CD arcane shield, plus a trait-based arcane shield, plus constant endurance regen from crits. You have a lot more survivability than you think, and it's mostly about awareness and positioning. Play the edges, play like a chicken (don't be afraid to run and waste people's time), play around your CDs, almost never participate in 1v1s (unless you have the point and your CDs are up), run INTO your team if you're getting chased (not away from the point), and preemptively drop your aoes on yourself if you need to. Your damage itself is a deterrent as well.I'll try to record another video when I can.While you are being chased you are not doing you primary role - pack aoe, the guy chasing you can keep chasing you through your attempts to escape, kill you and knock you out of the fight for 30 + seconds. Staff is still a parasitical build that is useless unless you can sneak about the edges of a fight undusturbed, that's a huge risk for a team to take to get a fragile aoer.I play Weaver d/d and every time I see one, I hunt him down and destroy him. The fight is basically 4v5 half the time as a result. I wish staff was better in spvp, but its not there at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aigleborgne.2981 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 @vesica tempestas.1563 said:@Liberis.9573 said:@"reikken.4961" said:I've tried to make staff ele work, but never manged it. What do you do when there's a herald/thief/soulbeast/weaver/mesmer with decent awareness on the enemy team? Seems like they'd just instantly kill you as soon as you show up to a fight. Let's see a video of dealing with that.You have a ton of escapes, slows, knockbacks, speed, stuns, etc.Fire 4, into Lighting 4 w/ "One with Air (Superspeed)", into air 5, into earth 4 or water 2,4, etc. You also have low CD arcane shield, plus a trait-based arcane shield, plus constant endurance regen from crits. You have a lot more survivability than you think, and it's mostly about awareness and positioning. Play the edges, play like a chicken (don't be afraid to run and waste people's time), play around your CDs, almost never participate in 1v1s (unless you have the point and your CDs are up), run INTO your team if you're getting chased (not away from the point), and preemptively drop your aoes on yourself if you need to. Your damage itself is a deterrent as well.I'll try to record another video when I can.While you are being chased you are not doing you primary role - pack aoe, the guy chasing you can keep chasing you through your attempts to escape, kill you and knock you out of the fight for 30 + seconds. Staff is still a parasitical build that is useless unless you can sneak about the edges of a fight undusturbed, that's a huge risk for a team to take to get a fragile aoer.I play Weaver d/d and every time I see one, I hunt him down and destroy him. The fight is basically 4v5 half the time as a result. I wish staff was better in spvp, but its not there at the moment. It depends on how good you are to escape someone. Sure, you are not doing anything if you run, but neither is your follower! So it is 4v4.I was playing staff ele in 2012 and nobody could kill me at that time because I was really good with cc skills.Not saying I would play staff today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladestrom.6425 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 That's true. For equal skilled players Your follower knows you are desperate to escape so he knows keeping the chase on and killing you will knock you out of the game for 40 seconds or so and return to 4v 5 got a bit. Personally I play condy with med range, so they tend to bleed hp, panic turn to aoe then die. Good staff player v poor chaser and its a different story, if you were a dedicated staff player that would have helped :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Season 19 so far: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.5148 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Seeing a core Ele with staff is such a breath of fresh air. It is genuinely fun fighting against them. Even if you die, seeing one attack do 50% of your HP is such a thrill.Never stop core Staffers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPuppy.8970 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I play core DD, but last patch night, I was stuck with staff cuz I was stupid and thought I could buff party at the start of the match before switching back to DD... well, it was fun... :D We won, but I mostly did only a support role. Could not afford to roam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJefferson.1704 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Hi, Qwahzi, around beginning of 2017 i wrote a staff elementalist guide, after which i've been inactive ever since :'( .While there's quite a lot in it that still could be relevant today, the guide is really outdated, losing its credibility. Although i can't really come back to GW2 yet to update it, i really do need it updated! So i therefore kinda have been looking around for someone who was capable of doing this.You seem like the perfect person!It would do the community a big favor if you could help me out on this one. :)the guide that needs updating:https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn%3Aaaid%3Ascds%3AUS%3A05cede46-0a6e-46d2-b423-a1d694541313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Still works in March 2020 with competitive 2v2s. Placed in Silver 2, currently in Gold 2, still climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 nice man. keep on bombin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Staff probably wont work as well passed gold mainly because heavy power pressure can kill you quite easily. Staff has a hard time getting out of druid immob spam. Any good team running power can focus you pretty easily. It can work in team fights, but 1v1 I cant see you winning vs most side node builds. If you're playing staff I think tempest can help cover some of the melee range damage weaknesses while giving free stunbreaks. Not trying to discourage but I have a hard time believing staff ele is still dishing out the damage required to be affective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waisenpai.6028 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 If you have a team and you all have audio and some people have mics you got it. For god sakes back in 2013-2015 earth d/d ele or fire usally 1v3 while you team consist of 1-2 power rangers that fight off point and sometimes never even stand on point they just harass on side lines. They key is communication. Try playing hotjoin with players without mics or audio communication vs people who have a solid team. Makes a big difference and that's why we used to have solo queues. Team think is the word, a team mate can fill out what you lack. Now I want to see zero communication and everyone play as a staff ele with randoms that have zero knowledge of each other's playstyle... Joys of 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 The big balance patch has made core glass staff really strong. You can AoE burst better than anyone else, and that burst is more useful than ever because of the increased TTK. You also survive longer because everyone else's damage was nerfed. Wayyy easier to play now, especially compared to my thief lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 But how you kill something when damage is so low? You know that weaver isn't core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberis.9573 Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 @Junkpile.7439 said:But how you kill something when damage is so low? You know that weaver isn't core?Core glass staff has more point burst than weaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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