Methuselah.4376 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 ...that Anet are so obsessed with necromancer not being overpowered (which results in it being nerfed to hell and back) because they are actually don't want to seem biased for it?Hear me out.First Elder Dragon we're introduced to is Zhaitan, who is basically the necromancer of the Elder Dragons. We have Palawa Joko, a powerful lich (and necromancer by proxy) who has conquered all of Elona and considered powerful enough to be treated with by a god (albeit fallen one). The leader of the pact until the end of Heart of Thorns was a necromancer. One of our most valued allies is a necromancer. The biggest enemy of the first ever Guild Wars campaign was a lich (again, necromancer). So could it be, so as not to seem that they favour the necromancer, Anet is always more worried about necromancer's "balance" due to the game already having a relatively prevalent necromantic presence?Or....I am just bored and reaching.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetatis.5418 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 definitely: "Or..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Well yes anet have a necromancer's fetish and as a "dark mage" it's always the perfect villain. However, anet is not overly fixated over balancing the necromancer, Anet is fixated over a specific design of the necromancer and try to make it work into the game. They want the necromancer to be the bane of boon junky professions (well they may have gone to far with scourge ;) ) and want the necromancer to be the key of your team's condition management, cleansing your allies, spreading their conditions... At first the boon corrupting role was anecdotic bt with HoT it gained more and more weight, as for the condition management... It just doesn't work. All of this in PvE has meant close to nothing since release, even the overbuffed tools of the scourge see barely any use in this gamemode.The necromancer is a vilain designed to be hated by other professions in PvP/WvW and brushed off in PvE. The issue is not balance or a lack of "love" from anet, the issue is in the role that anet dream that the necromancer will fill. This role is just not needed and every buff to the tools that this role have make the necromancer more hatefull in the eyes of the other professions.There is probably a lot of thought put into the necromancer by anet but all of those thought work at making it something that won't satisfy both the necromancer's players and the other professions. This design is just to much of an oddball. All the boon corruption might be a designed medecine aimed at curing an excess of boons but one should never forget that all medecines are toxics if you take to much of them. The same way, taking medecine that is not needed will never do you any good and the condition management role is an unneeded underperforming medecine, they can feed as much of it to the necromancer as they want it won't do it any good.There is just a need for anet to reduce the toxicity of the medecines they fed to the necromancer and give it a different medecine in proper quantity so that it could finally find a proper role that is not only being the guy that you will hate for being here. Anet love the picture of the necromancer that is at the basis of the design of the profession and try it's very best to make us love it as well, however this picture does not fit the game they created. I thought that with e-spec they would be able to expand a bit this design but let be honest, with each e-spec they release for the necromancer they continue to go down further into the same old failure of a design.It's not that they don't like it, they love it! It's just that they are blinded by their love and refuse to admit their own errors and try something different that will fit better in their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blude.6812 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 @"Methuselah.4376" said:...that Anet are so obsessed with necromancer not being overpowered (which results in it being nerfed to hell and back) because they are actually don't want to seem biased for it?Hear me out.First Elder Dragon we're introduced to is Zhaitan, who is basically the necromancer of the Elder Dragons. We have Palawa Joko, a powerful lich (and necromancer by proxy) who has conquered all of Elona and considered powerful enough to be treated with by a god (albeit fallen one). The leader of the pact until the end of Heart of Thorns was a necromancer. One of our most valued allies is a necromancer. The biggest enemy of the first ever Guild Wars campaign was a lich (again, necromancer). So could it be, so as not to seem that they favour the necromancer, Anet is always more worried about necromancer's "balance" due to the game already having a relatively prevalent necromantic presence?Or....I am just bored and reaching....I have made them all (except an engineer) and leveled them to 80 with ascended and the odd legendary. Trust me the only profession bias Anet has is the ranger--- they hate , ignore and provide useless elite skills that make necro nerfs pale by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 @Blude.6812 said:@"Methuselah.4376" said:...that Anet are so obsessed with necromancer not being overpowered (which results in it being nerfed to hell and back) because they are actually don't want to seem biased for it?Hear me out.First Elder Dragon we're introduced to is Zhaitan, who is basically the necromancer of the Elder Dragons. We have Palawa Joko, a powerful lich (and necromancer by proxy) who has conquered all of Elona and considered powerful enough to be treated with by a god (albeit fallen one). The leader of the pact until the end of Heart of Thorns was a necromancer. One of our most valued allies is a necromancer. The biggest enemy of the first ever Guild Wars campaign was a lich (again, necromancer). So could it be, so as not to seem that they favour the necromancer, Anet is always more worried about necromancer's "balance" due to the game already having a relatively prevalent necromantic presence?Or....I am just bored and reaching....I have made them all (except an engineer) and leveled them to 80 with ascended and the odd legendary. Trust me the only profession bias Anet has is the ranger--- they hate , ignore and provide useless elite skills that make necro nerfs pale by comparison."ranger"... "useless elite skills"... lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Francois.4328 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I still think they are nerfing us to compensate for when people were running full necro teams as the meta in GW1. It got pretty ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I'd argue its because both reaper and scourge were the most well thought out (in terms of originality) and most hyped specs of both expacs. This caused bandwagoning and then naturally heavy nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldirtbeard.9834 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Kain Francois.4328 said:I still think they are nerfing us to compensate for when people were running full necro teams as the meta in GW1. It got pretty ridiculous.What's stopping us now, if full Necromancer teams work for T4 Fractals then maybe we should make exclusive Necromancer Raids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFable.1978 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Oldirtbeard.9834 said:@Kain Francois.4328 said:I still think they are nerfing us to compensate for when people were running full necro teams as the meta in GW1. It got pretty ridiculous.What's stopping us now, if full Necromancer teams work for T4 Fractals then maybe we should make exclusive Necromancer Raids? Least I'd be able to get in a raid group then. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldirtbeard.9834 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Next night off I have, I'll start a Necromancer only raid, no one but newbies, expect failure but do it for the comedy.I'll run a Reaper Tank (unless core is tanker) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dceptaconroy.7928 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Ill run skinny wristed power super dps spec asuran darkmode reaper. I expect it to be youtubed and get 5 views a month for the first 4 months then sinks into legend status never to be seen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesacon.8735 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Traehearne was a reaper before reapers were a thing with caladbolg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldirtbeard.9834 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Hesacon.8735 said:Traehearne was a reaper before reapers were a thing with caladbolg. The Commander was the first person to nerf a Reaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khailyn.6248 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Hesacon.8735 said:Traehearne was a reaper before reapers were a thing with caladbolg. Marjory would be the first Reaper. Traehearne basically had the longest duration enviromental weapon in the game with Caladbolg. It gives the wielder the same abilities regardless of who carries it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 @Khailyn.6248 said:@Hesacon.8735 said:Traehearne was a reaper before reapers were a thing with caladbolg. Marjory would be the first Reaper. Traehearne basically had the longest duration enviromental weapon in the game with Caladbolg. It gives the wielder the same abilities regardless of who carries it. Not anymore it doesn't :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 @Oldirtbeard.9834 said:Next night off I have, I'll start a Necromancer only raid, no one but newbies, expect failure but do it for the comedy.I'll run a Reaper Tank (unless core is tanker) I would like to join. Would be a Scourge though and not Reaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldirtbeard.9834 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 It should be done through the DEAD guild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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