Arkantos.7460 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 why:axe still better with cds>more dmg , teleport at 900 range and a RANGED ae cc at 900 range still better the a onlymelee weapon offhand, you have to buff sword more to make it attractive for pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan.9035 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I been using sword since they buffed it, never even considered axe at all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Sword does way more damage though. Although who cares, they clearly want rev to be garbage so what does it really matter which bad weapon you use. I'm going to go make a mirage so I can be one of the dev's favorites and not feel sad after every balance patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burtnik.5218 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 @Flauvious.6195 said:Sword does way more damage though. Although who cares, they clearly want rev to be garbage so what does it really matter which bad weapon you use. I'm going to go make a mirage so I can be one of the dev's favorites and not feel sad after every balance patch.Whats the point? Better to.. play another game. SOmething ive decided mid s2 and i dont regret that decision at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 @Burtnik.5218 said:@Flauvious.6195 said:Sword does way more damage though. Although who cares, they clearly want rev to be garbage so what does it really matter which bad weapon you use. I'm going to go make a mirage so I can be one of the dev's favorites and not feel sad after every balance patch.Whats the point? Better to.. play another game. SOmething ive decided mid s2 and i dont regret that decision at all.What other game? So tired of mobas. This game would be great if the balance just wasn't terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 @Flauvious.6195 said:What other game? So tired of mobas. This game would be great if the balance just wasn't terrible.Soul Calibur VI as soon as arrives (at least for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burtnik.5218 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Flauvious.6195 said:@Burtnik.5218 said:@Flauvious.6195 said:Sword does way more damage though. Although who cares, they clearly want rev to be garbage so what does it really matter which bad weapon you use. I'm going to go make a mirage so I can be one of the dev's favorites and not feel sad after every balance patch.Whats the point? Better to.. play another game. SOmething ive decided mid s2 and i dont regret that decision at all.What other game? So tired of mobas. This game would be great if the balance just wasn't terrible.Well i play Smite for pvp which.. well its a bit similiar to gw2 combat due to camera position but yeah.. its moba after all, i plan to join SPL for season 5 there. Then theres relaxing Path of Exile for pve.Upcoming Ashes of Creation looks promising tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBoopBop.5403 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Sword has more damage potential but axe is more reliable and useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @BeepBoopBop.5403 said:Sword has more damage potential but axe is more reliable and useful.I would say sword is more reliable since the gap closer still works if dodged and sword 4 is much harder to dodge than axe 5. Though neglecting enemy dodges, axe definitely has more utility with both a gap closer and an aoe hard cc vs. a gap closer and aoe soft cc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebatman.6250 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just gonna throw this out there for you lads:Each off hand has a place in pvp. Also shield > axe/sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasdamas Anklast.1607 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @thebatman.6250 said:Just gonna throw this out there for you lads:Each off hand has a place in pvp. Also shield > axe/sword.Can I board on that time machine too plz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said:@thebatman.6250 said:Just gonna throw this out there for you lads:Each off hand has a place in pvp. Also shield > axe/sword.Can I board on that time machine too plz?He's right. In a conformed team with a FB support cleansing conditions a Herald using sw + shield + staff just won't die: sword evade, staff evade, shield block, Glint block, multiple blinds, multiple access to protection, tons of cc... Axe is better in solo games because no one is gonna cleanse the wells the Scourge is going to put under your feet once you use Crystal Hybernation, so Frigid Blitz and Temporal Rift at least will keep te enemy busy spending evades (or eating cc + burst). Yes, off hand sword does more damage and lets you to kill more, at the exchange of being killed more (which in a game mode based on controlling points lends to a defeat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath.3918 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I just miss Duelist's Preparation and cc on sword so much :disappointed:, sure the animation was bugged and nobody bothered to fix it, but it really gave Revenant that assasin vibe. I don't understand why cant be both flip over skills. Let us have all 4 four skills. Duelist's Preparation to Shackling Wave and Deathstrike first part to Grasping Shadow. All with 10 energy cost and 15 sec CD and let us decide when we need to use them. Deathstrike and Shackling Wave have no synergy. It just doesnt make sense, at least with Grasping shadow you imobilizzed enemy so you can pull him, but now .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enferian.2705 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Nath.3918 said:I just miss Duelist's Preparation and cc on sword so muchI miss them too :(I am very sad that the sword got such a rework.I really like your suggestions, but I would settle with a having a different weapon with the old sword skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebatman.6250 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said:@thebatman.6250 said:Just gonna throw this out there for you lads:Each off hand has a place in pvp. Also shield > axe/sword.Can I board on that time machine too plz?sarcasm won't make you any better at this class :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Sword 4 is very strong. Considering that the only role that Rev plays now is instant jab damage, sword plays better than axe and shield for the most part. Good luck landing sword 5 on anything in PvP.Though all three off hands are kind meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialWL.7138 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Whilst axe offhand is more reliable, I never went back to it after trying new offhand sword just for the sword 4, speaks for itself. Sword 5 is a cheap gap closer and even more so now that they've reduced energy and cd, and if you can flash in some quickness it helps to land the chain skill a lot more.Saw a couple of posts here a few weeks ago talking about hammer instead or staff, so I tried it and have to say it is a lot better. You have sword/sword for bursting at close range and hammer for bursting/pressuring from afar and the combination works surprisingly well, and I feel it adds some much needed variety to the otherwise clunky and extremely predictable melee-based playstyle with staff. Also, you'd be surprised at how much burst hammer can put out if you never played it in WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Smiles.8951 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 @Buran.3796 said:@Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said:@thebatman.6250 said:Just gonna throw this out there for you lads:Each off hand has a place in pvp. Also shield > axe/sword.Can I board on that time machine too plz?He's right. In a conformed team with a FB support cleansing conditions a Herald using sw + shield + staff just won't die:won't die and won't do damage for the most part. you can even pick retri if you got at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebatman.6250 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Sounds like you need some help then. Damage isn't my concern. Surviving is. If you're struggling to deal damage while maintaining 25 might + fury then that's your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 @Miles Smiles.8951 said:won't die and won't do damage for the most part. you can even pick retri if you got at itRetribution line does nothing. I used it in condi builds until got butchered circa October 2016 and then became useless. Then I got used to play power without access to stab and now for me is one of those traitlines I never need to check due I known that has no use in the game, as when played Guard I knew that spiritual weapons and signets were hot garbage. Shield is not for tanking, is for having sustain under the help of allies. If you PvP solo or roam alone, I find the axe better. Shield also is bad in WvW raids due it roots you and in zerg vs zerg immobility kills you. But fighting with friends in a small 5-6 team or in a conformed team at PvP the shield works very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasdamas Anklast.1607 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 @thebatman.6250 said:@Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said:@thebatman.6250 said:Just gonna throw this out there for you lads:Each off hand has a place in pvp. Also shield > axe/sword.Can I board on that time machine too plz?sarcasm won't make you any better at this class :^)Ready to stand for that sarcasm any time. Despite I wasn't even being sarcastic lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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