hugo.4705 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 https://imgur.com/VWVNKNi In the training area, one of the trainers isn't human. It is a floating construct with not all its parts linked together (remind yao arm with different parts able to communicate without being linked?), it is named "Mech" and its way of speaking is kind of like an asura golem but more fluid. That mech seems to have some skills, but the only shown here is ability to generate a jade force field. Maybe reading to much into it, but I can perfectly see the engineer summon that mech as minion and order it to deploy its jade force field to defend or maybe support and offensive skills to complete that. Maybe engie could summon several of them? Just a thought after today stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeTect.5918 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Please no minions pls no minions pls no minions. And it looks terrible tho. That blue doesnt fit at all to the overall game. Imagine a spec that produces lots of these blue golems running around in open world. Would look kinda terrible imo. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrForz.1953 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Yes you're reading too much into it. Also I love how Elementalist users are pretty much begging for the Catalyst jade sphere to follow them one way or another and meanwhile there are suggestions like these on the Engi forums. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) It's a training golem. (With a temporary name as well.) Edited October 8, 2021 by Infusion.7149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawanarth.4601 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Isn't that one of the Adventure Festival golem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) I really hope not, since this thing looks really bad... so if this is a teaser, it might indicate that Anet isn't even close to have the spec finished visually. Unfortunately, this is quite possible, especially with our class. Scrapper has been the same, unfinished and but rushed job... Edited October 9, 2021 by Kodama.6453 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKC.3851 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 It looks like a blocky replacement of a training golem used in internal testing. There's no textures and probably no decent animation. This is common in game development. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisii.8317 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I want F5 to be a golem suit. Like Holosmith F5 but now it's a golem suit and acts much like Necromancer shroud. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Kaizoku.1298 said: I want F5 to be a golem suit. Like Holosmith F5 but now it's a golem suit and acts much like Necromancer shroud. .... so basically you want a second holosmith? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzik.5873 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 4:11 PM, Kodama.6453 said: .... so basically you want a second holosmith? I would not even be mad about it, I love Holo XD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowInTheVoid.9183 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 9:11 PM, Kodama.6453 said: .... so basically you want a second holosmith? If they went another direction with it, it could work. Holosmith is fast glass cannon with a time limit. Golem mode could slow, tanky and was throwing out so sustained AOE conditions (ideally including poison and burning) or AOE buffs and heals (could make for good trait choices) It could even end up as a reverse Holo with high DPS builds outside Golem mode to spikes and then retreating back got Golem mode for protection. Slow tanky gameplay could work well if Turrets too if they ever get round to fixing them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, ShadowInTheVoid.9183 said: If they went another direction with it, it could work. Holosmith is fast glass cannon with a time limit. Golem mode could slow, tanky and was throwing out so sustained AOE conditions (ideally including poison and burning) or AOE buffs and heals (could make for good trait choices) It could even end up as a reverse Holo with high DPS builds outside Golem mode to spikes and then retreating back got Golem mode for protection. Slow tanky gameplay could work well if Turrets too if they ever get round to fixing them. It just seems really boring and uncreative to use a transformation mechanic 2 times in a row for our elite specs. For necromancer, I get it, since the class is designed with transformations as the core mechanic (death shroud). But we are not tied to transformations because of our core class mechanic. So I hope they come up with something actually new instead of "this is holosmith again, but with some other abilities"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowInTheVoid.9183 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Kodama.6453 said: It just seems really boring and uncreative to use a transformation mechanic 2 times in a row for our elite specs. For necromancer, I get it, since the class is designed with transformations as the core mechanic (death shroud). But we are not tied to transformations because of our core class mechanic. So I hope they come up with something actually new instead of "this is holosmith again, but with some other abilities"... I wouldn't mind seeing this but I do agree with 2 times in a row and this only being the 3rd specialisation. I don't really get the hate pets get myself so I'm hoping for a pet like Golem. If they throw in a F5 to climb inside I would be even happier though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 39 minutes ago, ShadowInTheVoid.9183 said: I wouldn't mind seeing this but I do agree with 2 times in a row and this only being the 3rd specialisation. I don't really get the hate pets get myself so I'm hoping for a pet like Golem. If they throw in a F5 to climb inside I would be even happier though. Were you not around when the original scrapper and their minion-gyros were a thing? The pathing was so terrible, using them felt aweful. That's why I am personally not a fan of the idea. First our turrets got nerfed into nothingness, then we got gyros which were absolutely dysfunctional.... I don't trust anet to code minions anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawanarth.4601 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I never really played Necro, but how good bad are their Minions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowInTheVoid.9183 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kodama.6453 said: Were you not around when the original scrapper and their minion-gyros were a thing? The pathing was so terrible, using them felt aweful. That's why I am personally not a fan of the idea. First our turrets got nerfed into nothingness, then we got gyros which were absolutely dysfunctional.... I don't trust anet to code minions anymore. I wasn't, I didn't use scrapper until they changed them to wells but I can tell they were a very bad idea, especially with the fuel limits. I would hope for more of something along the lines of Ranger Pets which work well enough for what that are meant to be. Elementalist's Elementals work well with being ranged and not needing fast routing. Necro minions and Mesmer clones work as meat shields but I don't see Engineers really wanting that. I don't just want a clone of ranger pets but a single golem as pet that sensibly links in with the other Engineer traits and more of an AOE focus could give Engineers something new that other classes don't have. They don't have to be something that can zip to the enemy and do fast spike damage to be useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowInTheVoid.9183 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dawanarth.4601 said: I never really played Necro, but how good bad are their Minions ? They're okay. People still use one or 2 of them in PVP occasionally. They don't give big DPS or anything major but they can act as a meat shield and help keep you alive a bit more. They're good in PVE for being something you can just summon and leave there without having to keep pressing buttons if your looking for a more relaxed playstyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisii.8317 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 11:11 PM, Kodama.6453 said: .... so basically you want a second holosmith? YES! If only... I want a golem suit that has a machine gun on it, but more like shroud instead of photon forge. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadrine.4352 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 6 hours ago, ShadowInTheVoid.9183 said: They're okay. People still use one or 2 of them in PVP occasionally. They don't give big DPS or anything major but they can act as a meat shield and help keep you alive a bit more. They're good in PVE for being something you can just summon and leave there without having to keep pressing buttons if your looking for a more relaxed playstyle. They are pretty good as they have controllable spells you can use. Anyone that just sets up minions and dont micromanage them is doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orack.9756 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh I can't wait so loonng give us hint ! xD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghos.1326 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I hope it's not a Holo 2.0 spec like they tried to do with Scrapper (copy paste losing F5 for something else spec specific). It'll be boring as F. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Orack.9756 said: Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh I can't wait so loonng give us hint ! xD So typical that engineers had to wait to the very end to get any hints and information about their elite spec. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Ghos.1326 said: I hope it's not a Holo 2.0 spec like they tried to do with Scrapper (copy paste losing F5 for something else spec specific). It'll be boring as F. Question is, what else is engineer supposed to give up as the trade off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfb.7025 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 3:20 PM, SeTect.5918 said: Please no minions pls no minions pls no minions. And it looks terrible tho. That blue doesnt fit at all to the overall game. Imagine a spec that produces lots of these blue golems running around in open world. Would look kinda terrible imo. lol Imagine a EoD Engies ditto on a sPvP node: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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