Animism.7530 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 11 hours ago, TheRon.5489 said: For me the problem that GW2 has is all the content doesn't have any "good/satisfying reward" when you do content. For example, on fractals. You spend a lot of time (months) to reach t4 if you are a new player. That's ok, but meanwhile you don't have anything usefull or important. You repeat the same content all the time for a bit currency and not much more. I am sad to report that this doesn't change at T4. You can check out gold estimates with some communities per content, and most things are homogenized to be worth relatively the same. It's a problem GW2 creates for itself by trying to keep its vast wealth of content relevant, skipping the favourability by gold per hour or generally most popular activities. Think monotonously farming materials VS a fun fight. Meta trains, daily locked content rewards, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 12 hours ago, TheRon.5489 said: For me the problem that GW2 has is all the content doesn't have any "good/satisfying reward" when you do content. For example, on fractals. You spend a lot of time (months) to reach t4 if you are a new player. That's ok, but meanwhile you don't have anything usefull or important. You repeat the same content all the time for a bit currency and not much more. On pvp the same, you play pvp for complete tracks (and for fun) and get a reward (mostly skin). For example in WoW (zZzZ) I remember do BGs, and while I made them I got points to spent on armors, mounts, tabards, etc. Here is like you start something, you spend a lot of time doing the same to reach something, but on the run is empty. A to B, nothing on the middle. And all you do is for gold and buy something on TP, and that's the sh*t and the greatest of this game at same time.. Dont forget the BiS gear you get along the way in fractals and legendary in wvw and pvp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 I am not a big fan of really punishing RNG reward drops. I remember my WOW guild wanting me to off-tank on my paladin on nights that we had enough heals and the off-tank was not there. I used a blue weapon the whole time because the ONLY epic tanking sword in that tier would never drop for me despite many attempts. That said, I remember the feeling that accompanied getting a wanted RNG drop. That feeling was available in GW, though the RNG there for the best drops was not generous. It is almost entirely absent for me in GW2. While I can appreciate the certainty in GW2 incremental rewards, the feeling I get on attaining something I want is not excitement, it's relief that I can stop doing X now. Why so? In order to promote the game's longevity, ANet has made many of the optional rewards feel really tedious. However, the real reward for me in GW2 is people. If not for the guild I'm in, I'd not be playing as much. Maybe , not at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 I'm so sick of bloodstone dust.. i literally delete it at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashberry.4510 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Horizontal progression is pretty well tapped out. At this stage all they can offer are scavenger and cheevo hunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 13 hours ago, HonesltlyX.7164 said: My own opinion on rewards. Coming from experience over the years in more traditional MMOs like WoW. When we complete content we actually received a reward that was beneficial to us in-game. Like higher rated gear. When a new expac comes out we would get access to higher levels and gearing to grind through. I know I'm gonna get some flack on this opinion, but I miss those days when we earned rewards and it felt.....useful. Not as a progression to an achievement that doesn't matter much and not because it's a nice looking skin. But because they boost my character stats even higher, or it has a inherent added benefit for some on my abilities. I know the game is horizontal. But, can we become idk diagonal? Not necessarily, vertical like traditional MMOs were, but at least access to a higher level of content and gear? Something useful for with in the game and not so shallow like skins and achievements that ready don't mean all that much to players not into fashion wars or completionist? The end game content as is gets really old really fast. The lack of good rewards in EOD just makes it worse. If you want that there's plenty of games which offer it, including WoW (which is still going and actually just announced a new expansion). It's not an old system which has stopped being used in modern games, just one which isn't used in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Dante.1508 said: I'm so sick of bloodstone dust.. i literally delete it at this point. It’s worth using Herta. 250 bloodstone dust each day for a glowing stone. It may contain vial of liquid aurillium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Freya.9075 said: It’s worth using Herta. 250 bloodstone dust each day for a glowing stone. It may contain vial of liquid aurillium I have no idea what a herta is.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dante.1508 said: I have no idea what a herta is.. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Herta Once per day it converts 250 bloodstone dust into a container which gives you some random valuable items. You have to do a couple of achievements to get it but they're not difficult and the Wiki has a walkthrough. There's similar items which will convert other ascended materials, or combinations of materials, into random loot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 10 hours ago, Danikat.8537 said: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Herta Once per day it converts 250 bloodstone dust into a container which gives you some random valuable items. You have to do a couple of achievements to get it but they're not difficult and the Wiki has a walkthrough. There's similar items which will convert other ascended materials, or combinations of materials, into random loot. Thank you i'll check it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonesltlyX.7164 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 9:50 AM, Danikat.8537 said: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Herta Once per day it converts 250 bloodstone dust into a container which gives you some random valuable items. You have to do a couple of achievements to get it but they're not difficult and the Wiki has a walkthrough. There's similar items which will convert other ascended materials, or combinations of materials, into random loot. I have Herta. The rewards it generated isn't valuable most of the time, but it does drop something nice. I had it for 2 years. Still haven't gotten the golden drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonesltlyX.7164 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 4:30 AM, Danikat.8537 said: If you want that there's plenty of games which offer it, including WoW (which is still going and actually just announced a new expansion). It's not an old system which has stopped being used in modern games, just one which isn't used in this game. I can't in good concience support Activision Blizzard after the workspace harassment scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozumi.5816 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 4:06 AM, Hashberry.4510 said: Horizontal progression is pretty well tapped out. At this stage all they can offer are scavenger and cheevo hunts. No, they just don't know what they're doing. FFXI is Horizontal and has 10000x the progression this game does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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