Poledra Val.1490 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) I dont think nerfing a spec to oblivion is healthy for pvp like many people have said. Saying that though I find Harbinger to the be the biggest culprit in blocking/gatekeeping other specs coming into the meta, just from the sheer fact its broken and overtuned to extreme levels. I find Willbender is not as broken as people first feared it needs some slight nerfs but its nowhere near as overwhelming as Harbinger is atm as harb can fill multiple roles in a pvp comp, whether it be ranked or in competitive. I also feel Vindicator bunker variant especially is almost unkillable in a 1v1 situation and can tank for eternity even if overwhelmed, that 100% should be adressed as well in this balance patch. You dont want 2-3 specs dominating the entire pvp meta, unfortunately that is what is happening currently. Well see what Anet has up its sleeve in a couple of weeks. Edited June 16, 2022 by Poledra Val.1490 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semak.7481 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 13 hours ago, Poledra Val.1490 said: I dont think nerfing a spec to oblivion is healthy for pvp like many people have said. Saying that though I find Harbinger to the be the biggest culprit in blocking/gatekeeping other specs coming into the meta, just from the sheer fact its broken and overtuned to extreme levels. I find Willbender is not as broken as people first feared it needs some slight nerfs but its nowhere near as overwhelming as Harbinger is atm as harb can fill multiple roles in a pvp comp, whether it be ranked or in competitive. I also feel Vindicator bunker variant especially is almost unkillable in a 1v1 situation and can tank for eternity even if overwhelmed, that 100% should be adressed as well in this balance patch. You dont want 2-3 specs dominating the entire pvp meta, unfortunately that is what is happening currently. Well see what Anet has up its sleeve in a couple of weeks. Classic dont nerf my broken main, nerf everything else 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poledra Val.1490 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 hours ago, semak.7481 said: Classic dont nerf my broken main, nerf everything else What? Im not sure you are aware but my class is Guardian, Willbender definitely needs some nerfs/balancing out, im objective. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjo.6143 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Poledra Val.1490 said: What? Im not sure you are aware but my class is Guardian, Willbender definitely needs some nerfs/balancing out, im objective. That's what he said, you practically told "harb is op, willb not", cause u r guard main. Both harb and willb are kitten op. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poledra Val.1490 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, anjo.6143 said: That's what he said, you practically told "harb is op, willb not", cause u r guard main. Both harb and willb are kitten op. I think its safe to say that Harb is stronger then Willbender is at the moment as Harb can fulfill more roles in a pvp roster then Willbender can but that is just my personal opinion nobody has to agree with me, they both need balancing out. Anyway well see what happens in two weeks. Edited June 17, 2022 by Poledra Val.1490 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTGuevara.9018 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 7 hours ago, anjo.6143 said: That's what he said, you practically told "harb is op, willb not", cause u r guard main. Both harb and willb are kitten op. And THAT is being actually objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjo.6143 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) On 6/17/2022 at 10:45 AM, Poledra Val.1490 said: I think its safe to say that Harb is stronger then Willbender is at the moment as Harb can fulfill more roles in a pvp roster then Willbender can but that is just my personal opinion nobody has to agree with me, they both need balancing out. Anyway well see what happens in two weeks. I dont care about this, to me both are in bizarre state. I was just explaining to the guy what the other guy told Edited June 20, 2022 by anjo.6143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrial.2917 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I want them to communicate less! It's basically whiplash with how much information they pass along to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I just want to thank everyone in advance for rushing to the forums as quickly as possible after next Tuesday to proclaim which specs are ridiculously overpowered and require no skill to play. Helps me find my next main quicker. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilesoldier.9826 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Balance notes are confirmed coming later this week, with quote "something like 4k words" in the balance section. (+ zero introduction paragraphs) https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/vh2bt1/comment/id7voyz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Edited June 21, 2022 by GeneralBM.5781 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoser.7245 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Someone also posted this: March 29, 2022 game update with ~3k words and ~100 changes May 11, 2021 game update with ~5k words and ~130 changes July 7, 2020 game update with ~3.5k words and ~140 changes February 25, 2020 game update with ~18k words and ~1000 changes To get an idea of how big it could be. Regardless, the most important thing will be how impactful the changes will be. With so many requests for nerfs I'm in pessimistic mode. I hope they have not paid too much attention to the forum this time. 🤪 🤣 At least, i know that i will be theorycrafting a lot this weekend. So, nice in that sense... i hope. 🙄😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrial.2917 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 The real bet is, will there continue to be 300 second skills still in the game after the patch? Imagine releasing an expansion and you build a 300 second skill... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 hours ago, GeneralBM.5781 said: 4k words I can write a 4k word essay justifying why I feel core engie needs to be nerfed specifically because Rory, Woodstock and Kuma can press buttons. I will be impressed by the size of the balance patch if the features being pushed are mostly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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