Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Alright look, here's where we are now: Game Update Notes: July 18, 2023 - Game Update Notes - Guild Wars 2 Forums Bug Fixes: Written in Stone: This trait now has a 25-second internal cooldown when granting an aura in PvP only. Signet of Restoration: Increased cooldown from 25 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP only. Signet of Water: Increased cooldown from 20 seconds to 30 seconds in PvP only. Flamestrike: The first strike of this skill no longer inflicts burning in PvP only. Reduced the secondary burning duration from 1.5 seconds to 1 second in PvP only. Dragon's Tooth: Reduced burning duration from 10 seconds to 5 seconds in PvP only. Desert Empowerment: Fixed an issue that caused this trait to grant more barrier than intended in PvP and WvW. Fixed an issue in the Silent Surf fractal that caused pets to be affected by the final encounter's boon stealing mechanic. Removed a context menu "Invite" option that was erroneously enabled. Edited July 24, 2023 by Trevor Boyer.6524 4 21 3 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladestrom.6425 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 The y have entirely burst a non cata build ive been using for 2 years, well done ANET. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Trevor you are plain wrong. These changes will do the trick. If anything ele was over nerfed 2 7 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuriGashi.5617 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Signet and power Cata still free winning basically every match-up in the game Truly an uninstall angle 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuriGashi.5617 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, Downstate.4697 said: Trevor you are plain wrong. These changes will do the trick. If anything ele was over nerfed Drazeh is testing Cata match-ups on stream right now and it is still winning against everything. Stop spreading nonsense. 11 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, GuriGashi.5617 said: Drazeh is testing Cata match-ups on stream right now and it is still winning against everything. Stop spreading nonsense. Oh okay. Guess I’m too over zealous. I stand corrected if that’s what everyone else is saying 2 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I find it funny seeing the devs comments about how other classes are overperforming and how bad they get hammered , de for example 300% damage reduced to 30% and the like than taking a look at eles nerfs... the most overperforming class in the game. It's obvious what class the dev in charge mains. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladestrom.6425 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, GuriGashi.5617 said: Drazeh is testing Cata match-ups on stream right now and it is still winning against everything. Stop spreading nonsense. with 2000 condy at 25 might sceptre does 600 dmg?!. Anet have entirely f**ed up my dps tempest i've been playing for 2 tears. This CMC character needs kicked to the long grass. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Psycoprophet.8107 said: I find it funny seeing the devs comments about how other classes are overperforming and how bad they get hammered , de for example 300% damage reduced to 30% and the like than taking a look at eles nerfs... the most overperforming class in the game. It's obvious what class the dev in charge mains. This nonsense has gone 10 steps past ridiculous at this point. Our community needs to seriously agree on some kind of honor system here if we want the game to maintain any value of fun. Like right off the top of my head, I'm imagining something realistic, like agreeing to only ever run 2x Eles in a team even in the MAT. For example, we could run 1x Tempest with 1x Cata or something like that, but running any more than that should officially be considered skanky and as dishonorable as straight up cheating. I mean even when Herald had the immortal bug, Catalysts were still winning against them in ATs. I mean... what more needs to be said here? Edited July 18, 2023 by Trevor Boyer.6524 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, GuriGashi.5617 said: Signet and power Cata still free winning basically every match-up in the game Truly an uninstall angle Lmao jfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: Staunch Auras: Reduced stability duration from 2 seconds to 1 second in PvP only. ---- Yeah, not gonna matter much because of Rock Solid - Guild Wars 2 Wiki (GW2W) and Harmonious Conduit - Guild Wars 2 Wiki (GW2W) Ele doesn't need Stab reductions, it straight up needs to lose access to Stab in general in some areas. I'm looking at the rest of this but I think this is a bit overzealous a critique. Staunch auras is particular to Catalyst, Harmonious Conduits is necessary to complete overloads for Tempests. That latter case is fine and not problematic in any respect atm. The adjustment to Staunch adds some room for interruption on the problematic cata build. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 add a 10 secs cd at 2 secs stab would have been a better nerf than spammable 1 sec stab 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Idk how they managed to make the perfect bowl of nothing soup. A lot of skills are listed here with adjustments, how neat. Unfortunately they're all affecting the wrong things. WiS is definitely the issue here. It'd be like Signets giving Thief Stealth on activation. WiS losing auras and maybe having stronger activation skills would be the correct approach in this case. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, Vinny.7260 said: WiS losing auras and maybe having stronger activation skills would be the correct approach in this case. Literally this. I'm STILL confused as to why auras were even needed on signets. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Khalisto.5780 said: add a 10 secs cd at 2 secs stab would have been a better nerf than spammable 1 sec stab This makes sense. Reconsidering opinion. Edited July 18, 2023 by Azure The Heartless.3261 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, vesica tempestas.1563 said: with 2000 condy at 25 might sceptre does 600 dmg?!. Anet have entirely f**ed up my dps tempest i've been playing for 2 tears. This CMC character needs kicked to the long grass. Still looking pretty strong from my end, spamming perma 5k burn ticks. Which is absurd considering any 6 year old could follow you and spam 1 at range while other people engage you. GW2 Flamestrike spam post jul 18th - Twitch 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dreams.3128 said: Literally this. I'm STILL confused as to why auras were even needed on signets. It's like having rocks in a lawn and mowing around the rocks instead of removing them... It just makes things more difficult. Catalyst was already getting a notoriety streak of having too many auras. WiS without auras and stronger activation is the answer... How do they keep dodging the source of the issue. WiS in its current state is not a fun or interactive or clever trait. It's Elemental Epitome but for signets. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Let's see how it plays in FFA, if I can start beating a few catas then it's back in line. If I'm still getting stomped no matter the class I play, we got problems. I will say a lot of this won't do much. The boon uptime is insane no matter what, the fire might trait working with scepter 1 is too much, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallic.2397 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Hitting the stab is probably the hardest impact. Interrupting catalyst should be the number one priority. They also nerfed might generation. If a catalyst is reaching 25 stacks still, it has to do with the fire trait line, a core trait line, not catalyst. This also means that a catalyst is just free spamming auto attack. You'll die from catalyst free spamming, deadeye, Ranger, etc. Learn to counter issue 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 just watched drazeh stream, he beats boyce on 76 different builds with cata signet with nearly 0 effort, meanwhile FA is overnerfed, i mean all FA. scepter is officialy a condi weapon 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Vinny.7260 said: It's like having rocks in a lawn and mowing around the rocks instead of removing them... It just makes things more difficult. Catalyst was already getting a notoriety streak of having too many auras. WiS without auras and stronger activation is the answer... How do they keep dodging the source of the issue. WiS in its current state is not a fun or interactive or clever trait. It's Elemental Epitome but for signets. And to be completely honest with you, I don't think ANY Ele main even asked to have this on Signets. I was doing completely fine on Weaver with old Signets. What was the point? Did they think Signets were outdated? Weak? The only signet that maybe needed a touch up to 2023 era skills was fire signet and water signet since water didn't do much. Air Signet and Earth Signet were perfectly balanced as is with old WiS Edited July 18, 2023 by Dreams.3128 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Khalisto.5780 said: just watched drazeh stream, he beats boyce on 76 different builds with cata signet with nearly 0 effort, meanwhile FA is overnerfed, i mean all FA. scepter is officialy a condi weapon Ugh. Once again gutting core to fix an overperforming elite, and then not fixing the elite. 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) --- edit Edited July 21, 2023 by Trevor Boyer.6524 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: This a perfect analogy for the situation at hand. Now I want to see a .gif meme of CMC trying hard to mow around rocks in his yard instead of removing them. He'll do it while chugging a bottle of water with a straw and a sun visor on backwards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) --- edit Edited July 21, 2023 by Trevor Boyer.6524 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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