magickthief.6492 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 who would make such claims on any class vs any class? such a sad post 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 @Curennos.9307 it works with steal not just its weapon skills thats right ^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curennos.9307 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Myror.7521 said: @Curennos.9307 it works with steal not just its weapon skills thats right ^^ Ooo cool, I didn't think steal was considerd a weapon skill - so it sounds like it goes off base duration? cause my steal CD with trickery is 17 sec. Good to know, thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowki.7194 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 15 hours ago, GeneralBM.5781 said: I mean that doesn't affect your ability to CC it.....just don't blow CCs into their Courage, and that's literally it, CC away and it explodes @Flowki.7194 pls elaborate. you're on thin ice, pal Rofl ok dad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 14 hours ago, magickthief.6492 said: who would make such claims on any class vs any class? such a sad post Lmao u mad 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I think ranger needs damage buffs. Thieves need to be dealt with. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Bazsi.2734 said: I think ranger needs damage buffs. Thieves need to be dealt with. Buff core Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawgie.1835 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 4:14 PM, Eddie.9143 said: I should be able to beat anything with sinister/adventure/ playing better. But balance changes that Bro what? No you shouldnt lmao. Not all match ups are supposed to be favorable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, jdawgie.1835 said: Bro what? No you shouldnt lmao. Not all match ups are supposed to be favorable. No matchups should be unwinnable when you're better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Think the issue is op thinks even though someone beat him in a match up that he is better than the other player.....why, why and how does he actually kno he's better than the guy that just beat him? Cuz he thins so doesn't make it true lmao. Secondly any great player can make mistakes a just good player can capitalize on to win a fight, even really bad players cuz have good fights. Lastly if thief is the class u have most issue with in match ups you clearly are less skilled than u think u are. Watch any top players that play thief stream and ull notice they will avoid a lot of classes in 1v1 due to not being favorable for them. Honestly sounds 100% like a l2p issue and a thread that should be closed. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Psycoprophet.8107 said: Think the issue is op thinks even though someone beat him in a match up that he is better than the other player.....why, why and how does he actually kno he's better than the guy that just beat him? Cuz he thins so doesn't make it true lmao. Secondly any great player can make mistakes a just good player can capitalize on to win a fight, even really bad players cuz have good fights. Lastly if thief is the class u have most issue with in match ups you clearly are less skilled than u think u are. Watch any top players that play thief stream and ull notice they will avoid a lot of classes in 1v1 due to not being favorable for them. Honestly sounds 100% like a l2p issue and a thread that should be closed. like I said, I just swap to thief and beat them. the mistakes a thief makes are much more punishable in a mirror, they stealth, u stealth longer and get the opener (not a thing when its thief vs x. but a huge deal when thief vs thief) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Eddie.9143 said: like I said, I just swap to thief and beat them. the mistakes a thief makes are much more punishable in a mirror, they stealth, u stealth longer and get the opener (not a thing when its thief vs x. but a huge deal when thief vs thief) Yeah u and every other whiner use the same old " I just swap to x class and easy win" bs. If u search thru each classes sub threads there are 100% guaranteed more threads in thiefs regarding new players having issues "getting good" on thief than any other classes sub thread, it's not even close and is regarding pve, wvw and pvp. U guys need new material. Thief is and always has had one of the higher skill floors and ceilings with exception of some meme condi builds, of which most class have as well. Edited September 1, 2023 by Psycoprophet.8107 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Psycoprophet.8107 said: Yeah u and every other whiner use the same old " I just swap to x class and easy win" bs. If u search thru each classes sub threads there are 100% guaranteed more threads in thiefs regarding new players having issues "getting good" on thief than any other classes sub thread, it's not even close and is regarding pve, wvw and pvp. U guys need new material. Thief is and always has had one of the higher skill floors and ceilings with exception of some meme condi builds, of which most class have as well. I didn't say swap to x class, I said mirror. Read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Eddie.9143 said: I didn't say swap to x class, I said mirror. Read. Yeah so if mirror match up a worse player can beat u? Think about that another way......u were on a class where a less skilled player beat u, did he win cuz was on thief or did u lose cuz u were on thief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 54 minutes ago, Eddie.9143 said: I didn't say swap to x class, I said mirror. Read. mirror me though I still want the hands 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: mirror me though I still want the hands Man I love you and your sarcasm but sooner or later I'll take a NA with the specific intent of smacking your beautiful face Edited September 1, 2023 by Terrorhuz.4695 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: Man I love you and your sarcasm but sooner or later I'll take a NA with the specific intent of -in a very friendly way- clapping the everliving kitten out of you :3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magickthief.6492 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Eddie.9143 said: No matchups should be unwinnable when you're better. this is called wrongthink 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferus.3165 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 8:42 PM, Psycoprophet.8107 said: Watch any top players that play thief stream and ull notice they will avoid a lot of classes in 1v1 due to not being favorable for them. Honestly sounds 100% like a l2p issue and a thread that should be closed. they avoid certain 1v1s because they would take too long or sometimes even forever. A "well played" thief does not die to any other class other than another thief. Thief is balanced in pvp because it cannot hold the node and not because thief is not a good dueling class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 6:32 PM, Eddie.9143 said: mirror for mirror on every class they will lose every duel, but this is a pretty easy way to tell its too strong. they're hitting like trucks, endless stealth, end less superspeed, jumping all over the map, ohfk button evade/reflect elite/antitoxin working with shadow arts condi removal, so you cant even load em up with condis before they run and reset. basically shids busted and needs to be toned down. it's absolutely NOT fun dueling thieves and rangers are catching up with smoke pet. Ah, the fabled 4 specialisation build. I wondered when that would come back into fashion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 1:32 PM, Eddie.9143 said: mirror for mirror on every class they will lose every duel, but this is a pretty easy way to tell its too strong. they're hitting like trucks, endless stealth, end less superspeed, jumping all over the map, ohfk button evade/reflect elite/antitoxin working with shadow arts condi removal, so you cant even load em up with condis before they run and reset. basically shids busted and needs to be toned down. it's absolutely NOT fun dueling thieves and rangers are catching up with smoke pet. "How You Leave Others Feeling After Having An Experience With You Becomes Your Trademark" Word in the gaming market industry about Guild Wars 2, 'There is a class called Thief; that can laterally one shot you in stealth, that can stealth anytime they want without counterplay, that is the only class who can hack, exploit, who has the most broken stealth design ever in any game especially for 11 years, that can literally teleport anywhere like hackers, that can outplay any classes without drawbacks, that is immune to everything, that can stay invisible all day long, that port players in hard to reach areas, that has been broken since the game was release, Thief is the only class whom Anet defends for being broken, that is the reason why I will not play the game....anymore, that instantly kill me our of nowhere, that is the reason why I will never touch Guild Wars 2 etc..", This is the trademark Anet allows, tolerate and promote to be the trademark of Guild Wars 2 This Is Why The Players, The Community...Are Taking Their Experiences Elsewhere, To Trademarks Who Promotes Healthy Competitive Experiences. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jugglemonkey.8741 said: Ah, the fabled 4 specialisation build. I wondered when that would come back into fashion. Are you sure it's just 4? DeadyArts(why is the abbreviation still censored lmao), SA, TR, DD are the bare minimum to make this functionally work, but "hitting like a truck" suggests CS. Edited September 4, 2023 by Bazsi.2734 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Bazsi.2734 said: Are you sure it's just 4? kitten, SA, TR, DD are the bare minimum to make this functionally work, but "hitting like a truck" suggests CS. Fight a good thief that knows how to use short bow for damage and you'll want to rip your hair out. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Burnfall.9573 said: "How You Leave Others Feeling After Having An Experience With You Becomes Your Trademark" Word in the gaming market industry about Guild Wars 2, 'There is a class called Thief; that can laterally one shot you in stealth, that can stealth anytime they want without counterplay, that is the only class who can hack, exploit, who has the most broken stealth design ever in any game especially for 11 years, that can literally teleport anywhere like hackers, that can outplay any classes without drawbacks, that is immune to everything, that can stay invisible all day long, that port players in hard to reach areas, that has been broken since the game was release, Thief is the only class whom Anet defends for being broken, that is the reason why I will not play the game....anymore, that instantly kill me our of nowhere, that is the reason why I will never touch Guild Wars 2 etc..", This is the trademark Anet allows, tolerate and promote to be the trademark of Guild Wars 2 This Is Why The Players, The Community...Are Taking Their Experiences Elsewhere, To Trademarks Who Promotes Healthy Competitive Experiences. Interesting that you don't provide a reference to where that "word on the gaming market" quote comes from. It's almost like it's an opinion presented as fact. 1 hour ago, Bazsi.2734 said: Are you sure it's just 4? kitten, SA, TR, DD are the bare minimum to make this functionally work, but "hitting like a truck" suggests CS. That's true, it could be a five spec, two relic build lol Edited September 4, 2023 by Jugglemonkey.8741 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigPlay.7504 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 8/31/2023 at 4:50 PM, Eddie.9143 said: get good a ranger complaining about thief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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