Yerlock.4678 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) War staff was busted but so was hammer vindi. It was on par with war staff and could 1v1 pretty adequately with it. Now it's unchallenged and totally op. Please nerf. Vindi in general is terrible and unfun af to fight against. Always has been. Edited April 16 by gmmg.9210 8 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 minutes ago, gmmg.9210 said: War staff was busted but so was hammer vindi. It was on par with war staff and could 1v1 pretty adequately with it. Now it's unchallenged and totally op. Please nerf. Vindi in general is terrible and unfun af to fight against. Always has been. They literelly waiting builds to win mat to nerf them. War was also clearly broken, but no, they had to wait for the mat win. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotejjeken.1267 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 hours ago, Khalisto.5780 said: They literelly waiting builds to win mat to nerf them. War was also clearly broken, but no, they had to wait for the mat win. This is the most accurate take. War, Mes, Ranger, all got hit in the patch--the first two were represented in the finals, and Ranger always catches strays if it gets even close to the finals of a mAT, but I digress lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 @Gotejjeken.1267 the best part is. Ranger is still broken even with said nerfs xD. Mace mace need a hard nerf. It could stun lock you to death while been this tanky that they can eat hard hitting skills for free multiple Times xD. While also beeing able to litterly clap you in just one CC Spam/DMG Rotation 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotejjeken.1267 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 11 minutes ago, Myror.7521 said: While also beeing able to litterly clap you in just one CC Spam/DMG Rotation Every class in the game can do this now my dude. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 @Gotejjeken.1267 technicaly yes. But not every class is also able to be imune for every possible counter play at the same time xD 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 11 hours ago, gmmg.9210 said: War staff was busted By Allah if you call this a nerf 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I know someone who will NOT like this Thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 11 hours ago, Khalisto.5780 said: They literelly waiting builds to win mat to nerf them. War was also clearly broken, but no, they had to wait for the mat win. I think it won in NA. Roy stream said EU but he swapped to NA if I am not mistaken. I have not played the past 2 weeks but in EU it was not that popular yet. I only saw Erazik playing it. Edited April 17 by aymnad.9023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, aymnad.9023 said: I only saw Erazik playing it @arazoth.7290 is playing it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Sahne.6950 said: I know someone who will NOT like this Thread. 🤔 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just get enough projectile denial/reflection and learn to dodge skill 2/3 which are as obvious as madara comet in naruto landing. Many haven't played hammer on revenant for years and you all don't know how to counter it now.... . Get back practicing, get the right build and problem solved. I went on my condi reaper, which I sometimes play, I changed my build accordingly for some more overall protection/ counter against it. And you know what, it countered erazik. My team and me shut it down because lf that, because lf build, teamplay and following targets rightfully. There are many more things ln other classes how to counter against it if you have some knowledge of your class. It's the same vs condi classes you fight, get atleast some cleanse because you can't expect to do much without or last long 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) You are not exactly wrong.... but just wanted to let you know i had 4 diffrent projectile denials in my cata build, and you straight up smoked me 😄 Its not as easy to counter that build as you make it sound like^^ The constant evades, that also deal damage are not something everyone has a easy time going up against. Tho, i dont believe its op. Ele is just worse 😄 Edited April 17 by Sahne.6950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 minute ago, Sahne.6950 said: You are not exactly wrong.... but just wanted to let you know i had 3 diffrent projectile denials in my build, and you straight up smoked me 😄 Its not as easy to counter that build as you make it sound like^^ Tho, i dont believe its op. that's called experience when to use hammer and not, but that was in a 1v1 😅. In teamfights which I prefere to be in it would be more annoying since now I am forced in to go closer with greatsword because if hammer skill 2/3 don't enough damage for pressure or get dodged I need greatsword. I can also just wait reflect/denial out but that can be precious time wasted.... So 1v1 it aint the best, can be countered enough that you have to flee off node, so that's a no. In teamfights it depends what I listed earlier. So I advice for teamfights, get that stuff and if condi class is used, weakness conditions ontop with protection boons to top it off. Atleast get 1 of these and it will feel more comfortable with good timing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said: You are not exactly wrong.... but just wanted to let you know i had 3 diffrent projectile denials in my build, and you straight up smoked me 😄 Its not as easy to counter that build as you make it sound like^^ Tho, i dont believe its op. Also I killed you with that secret thingy, that till now I am the only one using you know ;). Which caught you few times off guard (not class related hint hint) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, arazoth.7290 said: Just get enough projectile denial/reflection and learn to dodge skill 2/3 which are as obvious as madara comet in naruto landing. Many haven't played hammer on revenant for years and you all don't know how to counter it now.... . Get back practicing, get the right build and problem solved. I went on my condi reaper, which I sometimes play, I changed my build accordingly for some more overall protection/ counter against it. And you know what, it countered erazik. My team and me shut it down because lf that, because lf build, teamplay and following targets rightfully. There are many more things ln other classes how to counter against it if you have some knowledge of your class. It's the same vs condi classes you fight, get atleast some cleanse because you can't expect to do much without or last long My man, you could spend 5 minutes slowly shouting out KA-ME-HA-ME-HA with all the flashing warning lights possible, but if it one shot a single ele the forums would blow up asking for a nerf. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: My man, you could spend 5 minutes slowly shouting out KA-ME-HA-ME-HA with all the flashing warning lights possible, but if it one shot a single ele the forums would blow up asking for a nerf. yea indeed, and there are many that can 1 shot too on other specs. I give them now tips which helps them counter/ fight against it better and they're still confused (or trolls) 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: but if it one shot a single ele the forums would blow up REEEE Edited April 17 by Sahne.6950 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 21 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said: REEEE It's times like these that I love the forums. Thanks for putting a smile on my face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 32 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said: REEEE I can extend you free popcorn for 5gold/month to make you feel better? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, arazoth.7290 said: I can extend you free popcorn for 5gold/month to make you feel better? i literally gave you 69 gold, and havent received ANY popcorn yet.... you can hand me your build, to make up for that. i wanna check it out. let out the "secret ingredient", i know what it is 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron.1294 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Hammer 4 has pve power coef... That's why it's busted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 14 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said: i literally gave you 69 gold, and havent received ANY popcorn yet.... you can hand me your build, to make up for that. i wanna check it out. let out the "secret ingredient", i know what it is 😄 Whattt, I gave you freee, check your mailbox 😂😂😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arazoth.7290 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Aaron.1294 said: Hammer 4 has pve power coef... That's why it's busted It does max 7,5k if your target is under 50% has full vulnerability stacks applied on them and if you're build full damage only with close to max might stacks. The amount of burst damage that most occurs without mitigation like boons, ect. is 5,5k These are a lot of conditions to reach that kind of level. It's also a projectile which can potentially be negated by denial/reflects You know what pve amount of damage are => Such as this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron.1294 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) @arazoth.7290it deals more damage than trueshot...and gives aegis projectile denial Edited April 17 by Aaron.1294 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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