Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) Uh... Y'all sure about that one? I'm personally fine being hard countered by a couple of builds. Maybe four secs and four secs respectively? I'm just going to eat the hit, count to two then leave. Edited May 21 by Azure The Heartless.3261 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Maybe they are nerfing engi reveal because they are about to finally give other classes good access to it. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Hehehehehehehehe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Take that pesky engis! Thief class reign supreme! 😈 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 11 minutes ago, Endorphin.9147 said: Take that pesky engis! Thief class reign supreme! 😈 bro not like this 💀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 After this lock on nerf, should just buff detection pulse and utility goggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethekey.8314 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) Lul. Passive reveal was pretty annoying to fight against with stealth. Game does need more viable, active reveal to bring stealth counters in line with projectiles, blocks etc. It should be baked into skills you already take like unblockable. Classic Anet though, fixing the secondary problem first. Edited May 21 by bethekey.8314 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Uh... Y'all sure about that one? I'm personally fine being hard countered by a couple of builds. Maybe four secs and four secs respectively? I'm just going to eat the hit, count to two then leave. I JUST WANTED YOU TO GET COUNTERED EVERY NOW AND THEN JFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 minute ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: I JUST WANTED YOU TO GET COUNTERED EVERY NOW AND THEN JFC What a mood LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethekey.8314 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Uh... Y'all sure about that one? I'm personally fine being hard countered by a couple of builds. Maybe four secs and four secs respectively? I'm just going to eat the hit, count to two then leave. 1 hour ago, Endorphin.9147 said: After this lock on nerf, should just buff detection pulse and utility goggles Have to say though, kudos. Not often that you see players who directly benefit from nerfs call them out as a little weird. Even if it's more on-brand for you two, specifically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: I JUST WANTED YOU TO GET COUNTERED EVERY NOW AND THEN JFC I didn't do this I swear 💀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, bethekey.8314 said: Have to say though, kudos. Not often that you see players who directly benefit from nerfs call them out as a little weird. Even if it's more on-brand for you two, specifically. When I say "everyone should be able to play the game" I mean everyone. Weird balancing is universal. I also happen to like having a point when I go full sardonic over whining Ofc all this goes out the window if theres a reveal relic then it's back to scrapping as usual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethekey.8314 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 39 minutes ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: When I say "everyone should be able to play the game" I mean everyone. Weird balancing is universal. Yeah, that's the dream. 39 minutes ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Ofc all this goes out the window if theres a reveal relic then it's back to scrapping as usual With Thieves being, by far, the biggest stealth users (until Bomb Kit makes its triumphant return, any day now), idk if a reveal relic will or should ever happen. Successful meta builds hardly ever say "kitten this one class in particular" and realistically equip such a niche ability. It needs to be baked into active skills like unblockable or projectile reflect currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagie.7612 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 now it's in line with all the other reveals they all suck now that's balance, technically 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Great patch for thieves they are sitting pretty with 3 meta especs while all the other meta builds eat nerfs including probably the best of very few good forms of counterplay to stealth. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatchtape.5109 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Balance team are cowards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephKatz.9375 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) 10 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Uh... Y'all sure about that one? I'm personally fine being hard countered by a couple of builds. Maybe four secs and four secs respectively? I'm just going to eat the hit, count to two then leave. Are you serious? What other traits completely shut down specs in this game with a 💯 passive play. How obnoxious that it’s lasted this long AND could trigger TWICE every burst. I think they could nerf it even further TBH. Why leave 4 seconds on the CC reveal, they should have made it 3 seconds. Edited May 22 by JosephKatz.9375 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, JosephKatz.9375 said: Are you serious? What other traits completely shut down specs in this game with a 💯 passive play. How obnoxious that it’s lasted this long AND could trigger TWICE every burst. I think they could nerf it even further TBH. Why leave 4 seconds on the CC reveal, they should have made it 3 seconds. four seconds is the default reveal for pvp, would be fine for parity. You get tagged by lock on, just treat it like you accidentally revealed yourself. 6 is a lot but 2 is... Like think about the flowchart for this now. you get tagged by an engi, invisible analysis triggers. 25 sec cd, you have TWO SECONDS to disable the thief to get controlled analysis put on them. Any thief can buy two seconds. I just find the window for building around making sure the thief cant drop on your squishies or rotate free is really tight now? Like unnecessarily so, theyll just take swift kits and play something else. Edited May 22 by Azure The Heartless.3261 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotejjeken.1267 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 If we want active reveal, time to buff Sic Em'. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 Just now, Gotejjeken.1267 said: If we want active reveal, time to buff Sic Em'. You keep that wretched thing away from me That and lock on are not the same. Sic Em preemptively strips defensives from across the map and then you can follow up with burst. Lock On you have to go fishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyright.9082 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 15 hours ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said: Maybe they are nerfing engi reveal because they are about to finally give other classes good access to it. Give lock on to thief. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Test 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotejjeken.1267 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 21 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: You keep that wretched thing away from me That and lock on are not the same. Sic Em preemptively strips defensives from across the map and then you can follow up with burst. Lock On you have to go fishing. Right, which is why 'passive' and 'active' never really made any sense to me. As Lock On is 'passive' but you actually have to try and find something to hit to use it--while Sic' Em is 'active' but you can passively spam it at a thief 3 kilometers away and reveal them. Still think Sic' Em should get buffed though, 1s daze or something added to it to proc Midnight King to help with Ranger burst setups.... mwahahahaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magickthief.6492 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 5/21/2024 at 10:51 AM, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Uh... Y'all sure about that one? I'm personally fine being hard countered by a couple of builds. Maybe four secs and four secs respectively? I'm just going to eat the hit, count to two then leave. Yeah, you deserve a confused face for this one, this trait has been in need of nerfing for about 5 years or more now. We can only hope they do more. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya.6495 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Azure taking backstabs from his own kind rn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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