Arheundel.6451 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Let's set aside all differences and discussions for a moment and allow me to present this idea which would effectively 1.make PvP more fun for everybody , 2.No grievance for anybody and 3.We improve the build diversity of the metaI have taken inspiration from the Spellbreaker elite which blocks incoming boons for the enemies...now what if we change the Renegade elite Soulcleave's Summit to an area denial that stop all inc conditions for the allies? - Say you as the enemy cannot apply any condis to me as long as I sit inside the renegade elite, pretty neat isn't it?Now you wouldn't be able to "automatically" win teamfight by double scourge every fight because the enemy would have a chance to sit on the point and power cleave all opposition at melee rangeAbout the tempest elite change : remove the heal and change to 60s CD shout 600 range, 10s duration, allies in range receive -33% condition damage Good or bad idea? And why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 The AI would be killed in like .01 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 @shadowpass.4236 said:The AI would be killed in like .01 secondsThen give the npc more health? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza.2105 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 @Crinn.7864 said:@shadowpass.4236 said:The AI would be killed in like .01 secondsThen give the npc more health?Wouldn't work. I've tested max health against PoF conditions. Even with 44k hp with warrior and rampage you die in like 3seconds to conditons. There is zero hope for renegade summons unless they make them flat out immune to everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 remove npc health all together. shit like rock dogs and phantasm mesmers is not a thing it stopped bieng a thing before hot even began. they did it with spirit weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Would just be original diamond skin 2.0, mostly gimmicky but completely infuriating if it actually becomes viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 @ArthurDent.9538 said:Would just be original diamond skin 2.0, mostly gimmicky but completely infuriating if it actually becomes viable.So what to do in this game?If you ask to nerf gimmicks..people jump at your throat..if you ask for gimmicks to combat other gimmicks..people won't agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 They should change scourge shades as renegade summons, giving players some counterplays asCC themKill thempermanent skills which have the capture point's dimension need to go or be somehow fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeIsGone.8675 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 @Arheundel.6451 said:@ArthurDent.9538 said:Would just be original diamond skin 2.0, mostly gimmicky but completely infuriating if it actually becomes viable.So what to do in this game?If you ask to nerf gimmicks..people jump at your throat..if you ask for gimmicks to combat other gimmicks..people won't agreeCause your gimmick is unreasonable.Preventing Boon application is one thing but to prevent dmg (at least one form of it) altogether is another thing entirely.If they made a trait where spirits pulse certain boons (like resistance, prot etc.), that would be reasonable for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Godlike.6098 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Unfortunately Tempest will be already dead when you have to use new rebound. Even healbot has joke sustain in current meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 @BikeIsGone.8675 said:@Arheundel.6451 said:@ArthurDent.9538 said:Would just be original diamond skin 2.0, mostly gimmicky but completely infuriating if it actually becomes viable.So what to do in this game?If you ask to nerf gimmicks..people jump at your throat..if you ask for gimmicks to combat other gimmicks..people won't agreeCause your gimmick is unreasonable.Preventing Boon application is one thing but to prevent dmg (at least one form of it) altogether is another thing entirely.If they made a trait where spirits pulse certain boons (like resistance, prot etc.), that would be reasonable for instance. Preventing boon application completely kills certain classes/roles which by design are forced to rely on boons to function, if there was a problem with boon..dunno maybe design classes so they don't fart boons to start with? The devs themselves choose always the easy and lazy way out instead than doing the proper job...then the players pay the price in terms of wasted time and opportunities, yes! my suggestion is unreasonable..but so it's the idea of preventing boon application when they're the ones who created boons reliant classes...quite hypocritical isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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