Xxnecroxx.4039 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I main a condi necro and until it becomes somewhat fun to play again and viable I have taken a big break for quite a few months already and will continue until the class I have invested over 2k hours on, has all my legendaries, ascended armor, etc on. it is not fun to play with all the nerf to condi and nerf nerf nerf, and I don't just want to use power reaper and spam gravedigger all day, condi necro was FUN but no they nerfed the fun out of it and when you think they nerfed it to much THEY NERF IT AGAIN. they need to fire the balance team and hire new ones at least the ones in charge of condi necro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigur.9453 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 when i look at pugs dps numbers, condi necro should be more then viable, exept you really suck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Wasn't condi reaper viable? i mean i used to raid as a condi reaper and there is still some nice applications of condi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchyfx.5768 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 well right now viper/greaving reaper is kinda OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Wasn't the big thing power scourge due to the nerfs? I mean scourge got pretty heavy nerfed for condis and the video i saw was all power scourges in WVW in a livestream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxnecroxx.4039 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 @Axl.8924 said:Wasn't condi reaper viable? i mean i used to raid as a condi reaper and there is still some nice applications of condi.it was very viable and fun to play but about 50+ nerfs later it is garbage and a Mesmer with clones is able to easily out condi a class that edges on death and decay itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxnecroxx.4039 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 @sigur.9453 said:when i look at pugs dps numbers, condi necro should be more then viable, exept you really suck with it.I don't even really play the game anymore raid wise since PoF release due to all the nerfs and pretty much every other class easily able to out DPS condi necro in everyway, right now if you try to join a raid group from what I have seen and talked to people about people just ask you to go like condi warrior or something instead, condi necro is garbage atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslakh.3072 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 These days most people run scourge as power rather than condition. Kind of ironic that people complained about reaper being run as a condition class and now scourge is run as a power class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 @Aslakh.3072 said:These days most people run scourge as power rather than condition. Kind of ironic that people complained about reaper being run as a condition class and now scourge is run as a power class.People just didn't want conditions to be viable. So here we are as most things using power/hybrid builds in large scale . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslakh.3072 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 @Sigmoid.7082Very true, that seems to be the case for the most vocale forum crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safandula.8723 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 u cant compare mesmer to scourge... its not any secret, necromancer is just punching bag, that sucks without any support, bu ur much more usefull than mesmer in group fights... u just complain without using ur parts of brain responsible for critical thinking... yea necro was nerfed a lot of times ,cuz it needed those nerfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 As long as you have this mentality it's not fun to play because it's not viable, I'm going to say never. If you can get past that artificial correlation between fun and 'viable', you could be playing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Last i heard scourges are still viable.I heard some even go as blood scourges because scepter 3 got buffed in boon corrupts.If thats true, then that makes scepter scourges a huge benefit for spvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxnecroxx.4039 Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 @Axl.8924 said:Last i heard scourges are still viable.I heard some even go as blood scourges because scepter 3 got buffed in boon corrupts.If thats true, then that makes scepter scourges a huge benefit for spvp.yeah yet PVP is not the focus of the game PVE is and where 1 most of the content is and 2 where most people play, nerfing condi necro 500 times because of PVP complains is stupid and yes scepter 3 got nerfed/buffed, its a buff if the enemy has boons nerf if they don't, and most PVE adds don't have enough constant boon application to make condi necro viable at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaeus.9564 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Reaper hits viable levels of damage in raids and fractals on condi and power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazut.4296 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I don't get it. My main is necro and I keep playing it :DIf you like the play style why stop playing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 @Xxnecroxx.4039 said:@"Axl.8924" said:Last i heard scourges are still viable.I heard some even go as blood scourges because scepter 3 got buffed in boon corrupts.If thats true, then that makes scepter scourges a huge benefit for spvp.yeah yet PVP is not the focus of the game PVE is and where 1 most of the content is and 2 where most people play, nerfing condi necro 500 times because of PVP complains is stupid and yes scepter 3 got nerfed/buffed, its a buff if the enemy has boons nerf if they don't, and most PVE adds don't have enough constant boon application to make condi necro viable at allWell actually the scepter 3 boon corrupt could be useful in fractals tier 2 and up believe it or not.Reaper hits viable levels of damage in raids and fractals on condi and power. almost 31k is really good, but its still arouond 2-3k below average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchyfx.5768 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 in PvP ok i get it not everyone likes to be a teamfighter with babysitter,But WvW and PvE is fine for necro. If you find guild you dont even need to run meta build.. and necro has good Metabuilds. Right he inst best. on Benchmark he is low. But we all know how realisticaly fights work. Just play it. Meet ppl that arent dumb and arent elitist. With friend we run Heal tempest, Herald/renegade, and me SR reaper with vampiric signet or blood reaper with vampiric presnece if Tempest wanna play DPS so wee have some life leech. and Its fun. I so bored about meta, cuz other specs make every round totaly diferent :) Only things that matters to me if Im pugging is if you know what to do. Even bring core necro I dont care. If you can use it to maximize its potencial I dont care. There are few tips for necro players how to enjoy the game.-Dont visit this forum that much and avoid toxic ppl. Well I wasnt different. (Sure there are thing that need our voice Focus#4 and other, but this hate spreading is laughable)-Met better ppl,guilds that dont care what class U running-Focus on your pros not cons.Right know Im running mostly renegade(or pReaper) and in any comp I love to have necro on my team. Cuz toxic trail, and other anoying things are then ez mode.Peace fellaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hsiao.9705 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 If you are doing scourge at PvP or wvw it really sucks I get it,,,prior to the nerf I love playing PvP and wvw with my scourge, now I can’t even have 1 sand shade up all the time so I’m left with no shades and die because my skill on CD. I would suggest abandon PvP if you main scourge and use reaper instead, same goes to wvw because scourge is not viable to PvP atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Power Reaper: 31k DPS - reliable rotationCondi Reaper: 30k DPS - problematic rotation, because a good part of the bleed stacking is connected to RS5 ice field + RS4 whirl combo which is often overwritten by other fields or the target just moves out of the fieldIn theory both are pretty equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 @Tom Hsiao.9705 said:If you are doing scourge at PvP or wvw it really sucks I get it,,,prior to the nerf I love playing PvP and wvw with my scourge, now I can’t even have 1 sand shade up all the time so I’m left with no shades and die because my skill on CD. I would suggest abandon PvP if you main scourge and use reaper instead, same goes to wvw because scourge is not viable to PvP atm.I saw someone streaming as a scourge in WVW so yeah its still viable.You got good aoe power dmg and you still have plenty of boon corrupts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dace.8173 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Didn't Necro just get a buff? How are we back to it's been nerfed to death again? I took a break from the forums with the start of the semester but I could have sworn that Necromancer wasn't as bad off as it was a month or so ago. I still see Necro's running in all 3 modes of play. Though I'd love to see some numbers that indicate that PvE is where the game is supposed to be about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 People are just dramatic ... nothing stops anyone from playing whatever they want in this game. If people leave because they have convinced themselves they can't play a class because of how and who they play it with, this game isn't really suited for them in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 @Dace.8173 said:Didn't Necro just get a buff? How are we back to it's been nerfed to death again? I took a break from the forums with the start of the semester but I could have sworn that Necromancer wasn't as bad off as it was a month or so ago. I still see Necro's running in all 3 modes of play. Though I'd love to see some numbers that indicate that PvE is where the game is supposed to be about. I posted above one guy showing being able to get around 30850 DPS.Thats a pretty good position to be in no? and no its not as bad off as the guy is saying.The sky isn't falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dace.8173 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 @Axl.8924 said:@Dace.8173 said:Didn't Necro just get a buff? How are we back to it's been nerfed to death again? I took a break from the forums with the start of the semester but I could have sworn that Necromancer wasn't as bad off as it was a month or so ago. I still see Necro's running in all 3 modes of play. Though I'd love to see some numbers that indicate that PvE is where the game is supposed to be about. I posted above one guy showing being able to get around 30850 DPS.Thats a pretty good position to be in no? and no its not as bad off as the guy is saying.The sky isn't falling.That's good to know, as I was under the impression that condi Scourge was still a viable and strong option for Necro players. At least in PvP and WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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