Malediktus.9250 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Sounds like the only realistic way to get champion brawler title lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapell.1346 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 looks normal, they seem beta testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo.6873 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @ArenaNet You guys really need to take bots seriously.This was one of the glaring reasons BnS pvp died a few weeks after release.Bots kill pvp in MMO's, either you are actively discouraging this or you are going to sit back and watch the pvp in your game become deserted like your first one.Times ticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza.2105 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 What if we found out that this was Anets way of secretly testing ai bots to add to the game similar to heroes in gw1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino.1359 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @Solori.6025 said:@ArenaNet You guys really need to take bots seriously.This was one of the glaring reasons BnS pvp died a few weeks after release.Bots kill pvp in MMO's, either you are actively discouraging this or you are going to sit back and watch the pvp in your game become deserted like your first one.Times ticking.Sadly it's going to be the latter on this one. Anet has had plenty of time to catch it - maybe even multiple seasons that this has been happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @Xar.6279 said:Its nothing new tbh. Bots always were here and will be.Its all about current state of PvP - that's main problem. Low population of good PvP players makes that bots are more noticeable by everyone. But why population is so low etc etc? Its simple.People these days (2018/2019) dont want to play PvP and spend a lot of their time to practice it in games which dont support PvP and Esport enough.Its just not worth their effort. Edit:It all slowly started in early 2017. When ArenaNet stopped organizing world PvP championships. Esl were shut down. They also removed 5v5 games from ranked. So everyone had to play solo. PvP scene died. And since this moment with every season it's getting worseYea that removal of team queue was a smashing success at killing off small guilds who focused on pvp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xuazinegueri.3592 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I hope they fix this quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @mortrialus.3062 said:@Zenix.6198 said:It actually speaks volumes about the state of mirage considering bots are in top 250: thinking : WoodenPotatoes talked on a stream this sunday about a scourge bot in platinum and how he went out of his way to deliberately tank it's rating.And in ANet fashion, WP will get suspended for match manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierPiero.9142 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @Alatar.7364 said:@"sephiroth.4217" said:( ...) and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.I think that's why it takes Anet so long to ban those bots and their "owners", they are probably waiting for them to send the Gold/Items so they can track the owners account and ban their main.However if that's the thing I find it difficult to believe that Anet wouldn't have access to the IP addresses with which the accounts were made.IP adress for cable and adsl are not static so if you ban an IP you risk to deny to play to a normal player . This is the reason why ban is on user i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo.6873 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @PierPiero.9142 said:@Alatar.7364 said:@"sephiroth.4217" said:( ...) and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.I think that's why it takes Anet so long to ban those bots and their "owners", they are probably waiting for them to send the Gold/Items so they can track the owners account and ban their main.However if that's the thing I find it difficult to believe that Anet wouldn't have access to the IP addresses with which the accounts were made.IP adress for cable and adsl are not static so if you ban an IP you risk to deny to play to a normal player . This is the reason why ban is on user i think Isn't there a way to ban people based on the unique ID from a piece of hardware within the machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @Solori.6025 said:@PierPiero.9142 said:@Alatar.7364 said:@"sephiroth.4217" said:( ...) and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.I think that's why it takes Anet so long to ban those bots and their "owners", they are probably waiting for them to send the Gold/Items so they can track the owners account and ban their main.However if that's the thing I find it difficult to believe that Anet wouldn't have access to the IP addresses with which the accounts were made.IP adress for cable and adsl are not static so if you ban an IP you risk to deny to play to a normal player . This is the reason why ban is on user i think Isn't there a way to ban people based on the unique ID from a piece of hardware within the machine?I could spin up a new virtual machine in minutes with a unique MAC address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delweyn.1309 Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just ban an account. The cheater will have to buy the game again + expansion. It's nice enought.And as those bots are quite easy to catch, it could be very beneficial for them.I think that Anet just don't care at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo.6873 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @Red Haired Savage.5430 said:@Solori.6025 said:@PierPiero.9142 said:@Alatar.7364 said:@"sephiroth.4217" said:( ...) and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.I think that's why it takes Anet so long to ban those bots and their "owners", they are probably waiting for them to send the Gold/Items so they can track the owners account and ban their main.However if that's the thing I find it difficult to believe that Anet wouldn't have access to the IP addresses with which the accounts were made.IP adress for cable and adsl are not static so if you ban an IP you risk to deny to play to a normal player . This is the reason why ban is on user i think Isn't there a way to ban people based on the unique ID from a piece of hardware within the machine?I could spin up a new virtual machine in minutes with a unique MAC address.Yes. But I was thinking you could do this the same time you ban an account. This way when the person hitting buys a new account that one gets perma banned too until the botter figures it out. If they arent using a virtual machine already. Just thinking of ways to make the process inconvenient enough to discourage botting in the first placeEdit. What's your suggestion for getting rid of bots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @Solori.6025 said:@Red Haired Savage.5430 said:@Solori.6025 said:@PierPiero.9142 said:@Alatar.7364 said:@"sephiroth.4217" said:( ...) and that free accounts could probably deposit gold or send gold to the main accounts.I think that's why it takes Anet so long to ban those bots and their "owners", they are probably waiting for them to send the Gold/Items so they can track the owners account and ban their main.However if that's the thing I find it difficult to believe that Anet wouldn't have access to the IP addresses with which the accounts were made.IP adress for cable and adsl are not static so if you ban an IP you risk to deny to play to a normal player . This is the reason why ban is on user i think Isn't there a way to ban people based on the unique ID from a piece of hardware within the machine?I could spin up a new virtual machine in minutes with a unique MAC address.Yes. But I was thinking you could do this the same time you ban an account. This way when the person hitting buys a new account that one gets perma banned too until the botter figures it out. If they arent using a virtual machine already. Just thinking of ways to make the process inconvenient enough to discourage botting in the first placeActually if they were doing this through a VM it's even easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyzE.3472 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Still no comments from devs? Even the regular "we hear you"? Great. Makes me wanna play this game a lot more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delweyn.1309 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 @"FyzE.3472" said:Still no comments from devs? Even the regular "we hear you"? Great. Makes me wanna play this game a lot more...All the bots I reported and who are in my friendlist are all here and doing their games. None is missing. And I still continue to play with them everyday.I'll put the screen of all their matches at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyzE.3472 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 @Delweyn.1309 said:@"FyzE.3472" said:Still no comments from devs? Even the regular "we hear you"? Great. Makes me wanna play this game a lot more...All the bots I reported and who are in my friendlist are all here and doing their games. I'll put the screen of all their matches at the end of the season.Thanks man! Hope this will raise some attention :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delweyn.1309 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 @FyzE.3472 said:@Delweyn.1309 said:@FyzE.3472 said:Still no comments from devs? Even the regular "we hear you"? Great. Makes me wanna play this game a lot more...All the bots I reported and who are in my friendlist are all here and doing their games. I'll put the screen of all their matches at the end of the season.Thanks man! Hope this will raise some attention :)From who ? The dev. ? Players to spread the information ?I think I'm just going tired of this, and will accept this, like Anet probably want.Another case that will be forgotten with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyzE.3472 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 @Delweyn.1309 said:@FyzE.3472 said:@Delweyn.1309 said:@FyzE.3472 said:Still no comments from devs? Even the regular "we hear you"? Great. Makes me wanna play this game a lot more...All the bots I reported and who are in my friendlist are all here and doing their games. I'll put the screen of all their matches at the end of the season.Thanks man! Hope this will raise some attention :)From who ? The dev. ? Players to spread the information ?I think I'm just going tired of this, and will accept this, like dev. probably want.Another case that will be forgotten wih time.Reddit? They can't just ignore it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I mean, they clearly read the forums. @Gaile Gray.6029 merged the power rankings after less than a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Medik.1569 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 After reading this I couldn't believe it so I started checking all the mesmers I play with or against. I was shocked. A lot of them have 3000+ games. This is so disappointing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 thousand people viewed/read/ or participated in this thread. However devs seem to be avoiding it. Can we get some authority(developers) to make some kind of comment about these accounts please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbelch.9028 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I actually asked a question on a stream by Jawgeous (anet partner) while Ben P was watching. Jawgeous said he's seen a number of these accounts and he works with CS to get them dishonored. He also said he hopes to get about 30 more dishonored. It seems Anet knows about it, they might not be willing to comment yet outside of their circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBroChill.3254 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Conspiracy Theory: Anet created the bots to make pvp seem more populated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delweyn.1309 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 And here it goes for the grand finale.Matches played and ratio for 9 bot users this season.https://imgur.com/a/4714GcsSoThey are the bot accounts that I was able to catch. There should be more.They were all mesmer mirage (and 1 necro) in this listThey can climb to goldSeems there are 2 types of bot users. The one who try to not catch too much attention by doing "only" 500-800 matches". And the one who don't care and have done nearly 4k matches in this season.They were all able to do the entire season. So they were right to not care. And knowing this, we can expect to see more of them in next seasons.It impacts economy. Prices go up because of those guys who made thousands and thousands of golds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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