Deimos.4263 Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 Thanks to everyone for explaining the process at least. Given the gold (and time) costs involved, I'm just going to skip on these. I've already got legendary armor on my main and it's much cheaper to buy exotic runes or sigils if/when I need to swap. I'll throw my gold at inventory/bank slots to hold multiple sets instead, and come out ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 @Cristalyan.5728 said:I wonder who decides the quantity of each material on each recipe.Clearly someone that has never actually played the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asum.4960 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 So ~9000 gold for one set of Runes to free up 3-4 inventory slots for those with Legendary Armor using a lot of different builds, and for no benefit at all for those without Legendary Armor, because then you swap Ascended sets with their own Rune sets in them anyway. Uhm..And I thought Trinkets were a ridiculous thing to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother.1504 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 @Ashantara.8731 said:30 Mystic Clover per Rune/Sigil is just insane. Imagine how many Coins you will have to waste in the Mystic Forge... no, thanks.Agree that the system is overly convoluted. As to clovers just do wvw and spvp. People that frequent those modes have 1000s of clovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 @Brother.1504 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:30 Mystic Clover per Rune/Sigil is just insane. Imagine how many Coins you will have to waste in the Mystic Forge... no, thanks.Agree that the system is overly convoluted. As to clovers just do wvw and spvp. People that frequent those modes have 1000s of clovers. Well, so many people have said they would rather just buy things rather than do WvW and PvP so, Anet is giving them great chance to put their money where their words are. They can buy more coins and convert them to clovers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquen.5406 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 @Brother.1504 said:@Ashantara.8731 said:30 Mystic Clover per Rune/Sigil is just insane. Imagine how many Coins you will have to waste in the Mystic Forge... no, thanks.Agree that the system is overly convoluted. As to clovers just do wvw and spvp. People that frequent those modes have 1000s of clovers. I think you overestimate how many clovers people have. A legendary weapon/accessory/backpiece requires 77 for the Gift of Fortune. Legendary armor requires 15 per piece or 90 for a full set. You get 7 clovers per non-repeatable reward track and 2 per repeatable one, if they aren't a holiday or dungeon track. At 2 per repeatable that's 39 reward track completions for 77 clovers (Enough for one Mystic Tribute for a non-armor piece legendary). Then it's 45 reward track completions for 90 clovers for a full set of legendary armor.Each reward track requires 20,000 points to complete.At 700 per win, it takes ~29 winning matches to complete a reward track.At 350 per loss, it takes 57 losing matches to complete a reward track.Most people will fall under the 50/50 average so, ~43 or so matches total to complete a reward track. Let's average 10 minutes per match:100% win rate ~ 4.8 hours per reward track completion100% lose rate ~ 9.5 hours per reward track completion50% win/lose rate ~ 7.1 hours per reward track completionThen the total completions needed for Armor / Other Legendary:Armor:100% win rate ~ 216 hours for enough clovers100% lose rate ~ 428 hours for enough clovers50% win/lose rate ~ 320 hours for enough cloversOther:100% win rate ~ 187 hours for enough clovers100% lose rate ~ 371 hours for enough clovers50% win/lose rate ~ 305 hours for enough cloversNow for runes/sigils:Runes: 20 per so a total of 120 for a single set. Based on the ratio's above, 48/95/71 hours per each rune.Sigils: 30 per but this depends on how many weapons you want to make sigils for. Based on the ratios above, 72/143/107 hours per each sigil.Yes, I am aware you can count first time reward tracks, which give seven per completion. PvP potions, which help speed this along and you can get a few daily, or boosters. In general, I doubt someone has enough boosters to push through that many reward tracks and once again this is based on the average time it would take. This is only for the Mystic Clovers...there are still plenty of other things to collect. Also, someone feel free to correct me on the numbers. I think I did it right but could have easily made a mistake somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dceptaconroy.7928 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 If you're kitted in leg armour and weapons these are completely pointless. As someone said theres only a couple of rune sets you'd ever need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etria.3642 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Calling it now. Ascended runes and Sigils in the next LW. And they will be expensive to extract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 This is an update for whales I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I crafted 180 Mystic Clover in the MF today, cost me about 400 Gold, with 43 Coins remaining. Really got lucky with the MF, can't complain.Still think the requirements should be lowered. But they probably won't be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos.4263 Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 I think the legendary rune costs should be reduced by a factor of 6. Yes, they should be expensive, but a full set should be comparable to another legendary item. A single legendary rune seems particularly useless. I don't know how to fix sigils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 @"Deimos.4263" said:How does one actually get one of these new purple shinies? Is it just RNG? Can someone explain how it works and/or point me to a link describing this process?The Wiki has already been updated accordingly:https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gift_of_Sigilshttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gift_of_Runes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino.2109 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Too much worth put on something with such a minimum convenience... does it even have any aesthetics? Yeah no, 15 mystic coins would have a better place 15x6... but 30!? 30!!!!!! No please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 @Strider Pj.2193 said:Well, so many people have said they would rather just buy things rather than do WvW and PvP so, Anet is giving them great chance to put their money where their words are.If you try close track only to get 2 Mystic Clovers - this is very very bad way.If you play each day, and additional get 2 Mystic Clovers from track, and don't count them, after some time you will found a lot of MC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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