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I didn't include any of these for retal as well, also 8 crit in a row with only 1000 precision is not really what happens. These numbers are just for a baseline comparsion. Edit: I forgot to add 1000 extra power to retal. It hits nearly the same as BF.

Forgot baseline power, it'll just be ~1800 which is almost equal to what retal does.

Sword2 does less damage than it takes back from retal, nerf pls Math =>Retal vs 8 hits on 2000 power: 233x8= 1864 Blurred Frenzy on marauder amulet vs Light Armor 0 toughness amu full crit (best case): 2000x1.024x922.5x1.83/1920 =~1800

I can tell you that cmirage will win mAT tomorrow at least in EU lol it will actually be a team of 5 Cmirages.Nah just Misha, 1v5

I can tell you that cmirage will win mAT tomorrow at least in EU lol

Buff renegade

Don't worry, Condi Mirage will probably win mAT so you will have more fake proofs that mirage is OP.

Just copied & pasted this thread. Also check my message if you haven't already.

Seems like Mesmer and Warrior are pretty close. I guess that was expected.

Replace sage with 1250 power 1250 condi 500 healing power or add a new amulet with these stats pls

@UNOwen.7132 Well let's just agree to disagree. To me, even condi rev isn't that good, since I can fight high level (like p2 to leg with rev in last conquest season, the build I play was weaker prepatch) people 1v1 with equal chances. I also never had any problem with carrion necro or burn weaver/guard.Also p3-leg duo (bulit's team) played core power guard + LR weaver in 2v2 season (ok this is not 5v5 but the point holds). Maybe I just don't know how to fight power builds or your thief is bad vs condi builds. Mesmer main btw.

7 power builds:Warrior (both core and spellbreaker),Guardian (mender has 2 power stats btw and also core guard and DH are still viable),Ranger (better as power than condi),Thief (power thief > condi thief),Engineer (power holo > condi engineer),Necro (paladin > carrion for core and also power reaper > condi reaper),Ele (LR weaver or LR tempest > fire weaver). Mind you I counted classes instead of builds. If I counted builds, there would be more condi and power builds but power still wins in the end.

1800ish ferocity 1200 power ele's arcane skills crit for 1.2k

Votes are anonymous, what did you vote?

Every yin has a yang. Now that we've had a taste of real ranked 5 vs 5 action for the past few days, which class is the most underperforming and needs a buff bat?

No fair you gonna get mesmer destroyed. I will destroy everything and everyone standing in my way for I am very determined to delete mesmer. Oh wait, nothing is standing in my way.

2 good condi builds vs 7 good power builds

Vote mesmer for the win

I played mesmer when it was very OP and when it was very dead.All I want is my chronomancer to be fixed :(

Lol for some reason I totally forgot about sigil of intelligence. Why not use offhand focus and leave fury uptime + precision rune? I was going after max ferocity/vitality because ferocity is stronger post patch and vitality is just good overall.Also what about daredevil runes?

You can just stop attacking when you see the shocking aura.

This is more of a "musician" than a bard :P Very well designed though.

Question: Valkyrie amulet ele with air arcane x and arcane utilities? Something like this (Just a concept, build might change): http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PGgAg2lNwOYKsE2JWcTarVA-zZALjGLgMTABHA Maybe take signet heal, bolt to the heart etc However, this means you have only 3% crit chance outside your arcane skills.

@Leonidrex.5649 and @"UNOwen.7132" Let's just wait for mAT, and see how good thieves play against good players. Currently, neither of you can prove anything (unless with several videos on different cases). There are times when someone can just "about face and hold w" to disengage, and sometimes you can't disengage even with shortbow 5. There are also cases a guardian can disengage from a power herald or from a thief. GW2 is all about cooldowns.

Past is irrelevant from a balance perspective