Leaa.2943 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Tomorrow there will be a flood of new players joining Tyria. Their very fist choice they will make is what server they should join. For PvE and PvP it means nothing, because in those gamemodes servers does not matter at all. The only game mode where it really matters is WvW. The cornerstone of the GW2. Since the anouncement of Steam release we all been buzzing about how great this is, how we finally will get new fresh players in to the game mode. How guilds on each server finally get a chance to get new players to their rooster. WvW will get a boost, life is great in WvW again. Today we all waited for the server check from Anet, because they will open us all up right? We will all get the same chance in a game mode where the only thing that matters is what server the new players picks. It turned out that 7 servers will not be a part of this at all. 7 servers will miss out on all this new players and it can never be reveresed. When the new players make their choise of server as soon as they downloaded the game that is it. 7 servers will not be avaliable in that list. 7 servers will miss out on this amazing boost of new players. 7 servers will get nothing, in a game mode where servers matter. Where guilds need new players and have been for years and years. Yet this is not for all servers, 7 are left out and a Steam release will only happen 1 time. 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Leaa.2943 said: Tomorrow there will be a flood of new players joining Tyria. I might be wrong but I wouldn't be that positive... 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaa.2943 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Telgum.6071 said: I might be wrong but I wouldn't be that positive... When ESO did this a few years ago they doubled their population. BDO did also have a huge impact. So i do expect us to have a flood of players too. Maybe not double but certainly a big pile. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Leaa.2943 said: Tomorrow there will be a flood of new players joining Tyria. Their very fist choice they will make is what server they should join. For PvE and PvP it means nothing, because in those gamemodes servers does not matter at all. The only game mode where it really matters is WvW. The cornerstone of the GW2. Since the anouncement of Steam release we all been buzzing about how great this is, how we finally will get new fresh players in to the game mode. How guilds on each server finally get a chance to get new players to their rooster. WvW will get a boost, life is great in WvW again. Today we all waited for the server check from Anet, because they will open us all up right? We will all get the same chance in a game mode where the only thing that matters is what server the new players picks. It turned out that 7 servers will not be a part of this at all. 7 servers will miss out on all this new players and it can never be reveresed. When the new players make their choise of server as soon as they downloaded the game that is it. 7 servers will not be avaliable in that list. 7 servers will miss out on this amazing boost of new players. 7 servers will get nothing, in a game mode where servers matter. Where guilds need new players and have been for years and years. Yet this is not for all servers, 7 are left out and a Steam release will only happen 1 time. I mean they should have forced players onto the 4 lowest populated servers and closed all the others until relink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Yeah 7 servers that have 2-4 times more players than some other servers, totally deserve to get the same shot at new players as those lower servers, cause people totally won't gravitate to the fullest servers to make sure they have lots of people around them cause they don't understand megaservers makes sure that doesn't matter. But yeah, sure, let's open all servers so the stackers can get more stacked. We're getting world restructuring in the future, so crying about getting new players doesn't matter anyways.... 🙄 Edited August 22, 2022 by Xenesis.6389 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said: We're getting world restructuring in the future, so crying about getting new players doesn't matter anyways.... 🙄 At the current rate, those players will be incredibly old, if not turning in their graves by the time World Restructuring is implemented by the descendents of the descendents of the devs. Edited August 22, 2022 by Svarty.8019 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, Svarty.8019 said: At the current rate, those players will be incredibly old, if not turning in their graves by the time World Restructuring is implemented by the descendents of the descendents of the devs. TBF I didn't say "near" future for a reason and I always expected world restructuring to come out around 2049. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Xenesis.6389 said: Yeah 7 servers that have 2-4 times more players than some other servers, totally deserve to get the same shot at new players as those lower servers, cause people totally won't gravitate to the fullest servers to make sure they have lots of people around them cause they don't understand megaservers makes sure that doesn't matter. But yeah, sure, let's open all servers so the stackers can get more stacked. We're getting world restructuring in the future, so crying about getting new players doesn't matter anyways.... 🙄 It’s a thinly veiled ‘open BG’ thread!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin.4501 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 So now you're worried that after 10 years the other servers might have a population similar to those 7 servers and you won't be able to steamroll everyone anymore?? Maybe the rest of us will feel sorry for you...in another 10 years or so... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 14 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: For some reason we always come back to this weird idea that some sort of mechanic to shuffle the population of worlds is needed but I have no idea why. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 19 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: For some reason we always come back to this weird idea that some sort of mechanic to shuffle the population of worlds is needed but I have no idea why. I think the developers thought, when they used to think, that players want to fight other players, rather than giving up until there's no opposition online, like some Karma-Train Lazy Susan. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Which servers will not be on list for new players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Polar.8634 said: Which servers will not be on list for new players? Any server listed as full. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Strider Pj.2193 said: Any server listed as full. That is good then, its better then making full servers even more overstacked. Ideally new players should be spread between all servers so servers which take most new players do not become feeders for others, but alliances are not up yet so idk how it would be possible now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Polar.8634 said: That is good then, its better then making full servers even more overstacked. Ideally new players should be spread between all servers so servers which take most new players do not become feeders for others, but alliances are not up yet so idk how it would be possible now. Exactly. list of NA servers and their status: Anvil Rock—Medium Blackgate—Full Borlis Pass—High Crystal Desert—High Darkhaven—Very High Devona's Rest 1—Medium Dragonbrand—High Ehmry Bay 2—High Eredon Terrace—Very High Ferguson's Crossing 3—High Fort Aspenwood—Full Gate of Madness—Very High Henge of Denravi—Very High Isle of Janthir—High Jade Quarry—Full Kaineng—Medium Maguuma—Full Northern Shiverpeaks—High Sanctum of Rall 4—Very High Sea of Sorrows—Full Sorrow's Furnace—High Stormbluff Isle—High Tarnished Coast—Full Yak's Bend—High List of EU servers and their status Aurora Glade—High Blacktide—Medium Desolation—Very High Far Shiverpeaks—High Fissure of Woe—High Gandara—Full Gunnar's Hold—High Piken Square—High Ring of Fire—High Ruins of Surmia—Medium Seafarer's Rest—Very High Underworld—High Vabbi—High Whiteside Ridge 5—High ArborstoneFR-Medium Augury RockFR-Very High Fort RanikFR-Medium Jade SeaFR-Medium Vizunah SquareFR-Medium Abaddon's MouthDE-Medium Drakkar LakeDE-Very High DzagonurDE-Medium Elona ReachDE-Very High KodashDE-Medium Miller's SoundDE-Medium RiversideDE-Very High Baruch Bay ES-Very High 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Strider Pj.2193 said: Exactly. I am now on gh linked with fsp. Some of most boring links. we often own all maps, killing both teams at spawn. Cannot even do daily because all camps/shrines are same color. Thats why i liked beta week, hope all other servers get many players. Only concern, at least at the beginning new players will not improve their server k/d ratio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlatic.8925 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The thing is and it seems that many of you totally don't understand that server being full doesn't mean at all that they have more people then the servers being open. Its just the stupid way of deciding based on participation. So stop saying that it is ok for those 7 servers to stay closed because they deserve it. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Mlatic.8925 said: The thing is and it seems that many of you totally don't understand that server being full doesn't mean at all that they have more people then the servers being open. Its just the stupid way of deciding based on participation. So stop saying that it is ok for those 7 servers to stay closed because they deserve it. Call it what you will. People want population distribution. This will help to distribute people. At least, until like @Xenesis.6389noted Alliances is released. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mlatic.8925 said: The thing is and it seems that many of you totally don't understand that server being full doesn't mean at all that they have more people then the servers being open. Its just the stupid way of deciding based on participation. So stop saying that it is ok for those 7 servers to stay closed because they deserve it. I am on very high pop server, linked with another high pop server. I clearly see we have much more players than opposite teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlatic.8925 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Polar.8634 said: I am on very high pop server, linked with another high pop server. I clearly see we have much more players than opposite teams My server is permanently full and we rarely have one queue on EB during reset, how is it distributed in a fair way? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mlatic.8925 said: My server is permanently full and we rarely have one queue on EB during reset, how is it distributed in a fair way? seems like population of your server is not active in wvw. I would just change server if I was in your place. your server is perfect example for why we need alliances. It still does not mean you need more players on your server. If u overstack, server will be lagging. Edited August 23, 2022 by Polar.8634 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlatic.8925 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Polar.8634 said: seems like population of your server is not active in wvw. I would just change server if I was in your place. your server is perfect example for why we need alliances. Change the server as answer to everything and alliances will not solve anything anyway. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Mlatic.8925 said: Change the server as answer to everything and alliances will not solve anything anyway. alliances promise to distribute players in teams based on their activity in wvw. that would be direct answer on your problem 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlatic.8925 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Polar.8634 said: alliances promise to distribute players in teams based on their activity in wvw. that would be direct answer on your problem Ofc, guilds will just bandwagon into same alliance and nothing will be changed. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chichimec.9364 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 This is just me and obviously I can't speak for anyone else about this but...When I first started GW2, it was months before I even poked my head into WvW and something like a year or a year and a half before I began playing it seriously and regularly. If that kind of time frame also holds true for other folks, then I don't know if WvW will be getting any large influx of new Steam players over the next few days. The immediate impact of the Steam release on WvW remains to be seen. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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