Kstyle.5829 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 It's not fun to play against at all. If you see on on the opposing team you just have to pray they are new to the class. If they just know how to press 2 3 quickly and change attunements they can hit you for like 20k bursts and then just reset cd with fresh air and do it again. Its the most oppressive thing I've ever played against because there's literally no counter play. Focus the ele? No... he just becomes a bunker for 40 seconds with all his blocks and invuln. Then turns on his water sphere and heals to full. It's like fighting a living god while you're just peasants. By the time you get up to over gold elo you just fight like 2 every single match and they are all people with meme names about how they are literal gods and stuff. When is the next balance update? I'm just not going to play until that happens. Its too boring to fight against 2 ele every single match. Sometimes 3 ele 2 catas and a tempest healer. Fun. 2 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FILIPaTL.7450 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Can you guys stop making each one own post about cata op? When suggesting nerfs u need to name skills. Yeah, u have problems playing vs that class because you dont even know their skills. OH and dont forget to nerf Mesmers 1 1 2 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Coraline.4173 said: Guys, I'm going to publicly defend Cata. lol what 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FILIPaTL.7450 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: lol what It is op but not as much as u claim. Pre nerf mirage, nade, rev, daredevil, scg… were wayyyy worse things. This ele isnt even on level of pre nerf burn dh. 1 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: lol what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstyle.5829 Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 13 hours ago, Coraline.4173 said: It is op but not as much as u claim. Pre nerf mirage, nade, rev, daredevil, scg… were wayyyy worse things. This ele isnt even on level of pre nerf burn dh. Most people playing ele are noobs and still can play it effectively. On a good player who actually uses their defensive and supporting skills its way more broken than anything you mentioned. All the dps class you mentioned fall over if you look at them sideways. They weren't tanks who could then heal their team to full health spamming blast finishers in water fields. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) On 1/28/2023 at 10:39 AM, Coraline.4173 said: It is op but not as much as u claim Proceeds to have a 5 cata team steamrolling the whole MAT, the finals being so bad Teapot straight up refused streaming it for the first time ever. That just a few hours after your comment. We need to talk about forumposters, because you people are getting out of control. Edited January 29, 2023 by Terrorhuz.4695 7 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 there is always something that ruins the game, if you had seen the scourge meta, that was way more spammy and hard to kill even in like gold 1 hands. Next will be chrono bunker meta, maybe they'll focus too much on cc spellbreaker and the condi one survives untouched, also if cata is completely gone from meta you may see a lot of untamed and maybe condi herald. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstyle.5829 Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Khalisto.5780 said: there is always something that ruins the game, if you had seen the scourge meta, that was way more spammy and hard to kill even in like gold 1 hands. Next will be chrono bunker meta, maybe they'll focus too much on cc spellbreaker and the condi one survives untouched, also if cata is completely gone from meta you may see a lot of untamed and maybe condi herald. Something will always be best but that doesn't mean if something is super broken you shouldn't nerf it. I'd rather face 5 untamed or 5 spellbreakers than 5 cata any day of the week. Anet needs to learn to make frequent patches with small changes. Instead of wait 5 months and then buff a class like 28 times. OH NOES how did this class become overpowered? who could have forseen such a thing? Edited January 29, 2023 by Kstyle.5829 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FILIPaTL.7450 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: Proceeds to have a 5 cata team steamrolling the whole MAT, the finals being so bad Teapot straight up refused streaming it for the first time ever. That just a few hours after your comment. We need to talk about forumposters, because the whole thing is getting out of control. there was not even good team to fight against winx and ultranumb only 2 premade 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Coraline.4173 said: there was not even good team to fight against winx and ultranumb only 2 premade I can't believe you actually defend this.... of course it's just a "l2p issue" again, right? Get real, catalyst is massively broken right now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Coraline.4173 said: there was not even good team to fight against winx and ultranumb only 2 premade Numb is a good team. Just didn't have enough catas ... Edited January 29, 2023 by UmbraNoctis.1907 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FILIPaTL.7450 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, UmbraNoctis.1907 said: Numb is a good team. Just didn't have enough catas ... LOL they had Adreas and Maia, not saying they are bad but… as well they were playing useless willbender and specter LULW 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Coraline.4173 said: as well they were playing useless willbender and specter LULW As i said, should've played more catas ... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FILIPaTL.7450 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, UmbraNoctis.1907 said: As i said, should've played more catas ... They could use c virtu to counter catas and maybe add vindi to the team 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Coraline.4173 said: They could use c virtu to counter catas and maybe add vindi to the team Or cata. You can flail endlessly in hopes it won't get nerfed, but it's going to happen. So you better enjoy it while it lasts. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zex Anthon.8673 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 All the people defending this kitten are delusional. If the optimal comp is to stack 5 of any profession, then there is something wrong. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Zex Anthon.8673 said: All the people defending this kitten are delusional. If the optimal comp is to stack 5 of any profession, then there is something wrong. They're not delusional; they're lying. They know it's busted, but they just want to keep the easy wins. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewt.9258 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I just use the laughing emoji on anything PvP related because this game mode and it's balancing is a joke. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstyle.5829 Posted January 30, 2023 Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 7 hours ago, CutesySylveon.8290 said: They're not delusional; they're lying. They know it's busted, but they just want to keep the easy wins. I dunno I think many people actually just believe themselves to be highly skilled at whatever class is broken. Every game forum is like this about imbalanced stuff. Most people don't have the ability to look at things objectively. They just think "this is my best class because I'm skilled at it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Kstyle.5829 said: I dunno I think many people actually just believe themselves to be highly skilled at whatever class is broken. Every game forum is like this about imbalanced stuff. Most people don't have the ability to look at things objectively. They just think "this is my best class because I'm skilled at it". Yes and when actual insight is given thread ends, more threads of "this is OP, ANET NARF!" appear. You want to fix catalyst? The GM trait changes the aura granted by Elemental Epitome to either fire, dark or light aura You only get stab when gaining an aura in water or earth attunement. Scepter needs some ammo removing, dragons tooth less damage, water trident a tad less (it's nice having a damage skill in water now) and remove the blind from dust devil. It will still be strong but it'll be in a better state to balance without reworking the spec entirely. Hammer honestly needs to be looked at though, the 3 skills are just not a good idea imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shion.2084 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 6:53 PM, Terrorhuz.4695 said: Proceeds to have a 5 cata team steamrolling the whole MAT, the finals being so bad Teapot straight up refused streaming it for the first time ever. That just a few hours after your comment. We need to talk about forumposters, because you people are getting out of control. Really? I never watch streams or follow the pros. But that would be funny to see. Is there a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, shion.2084 said: Really? I never watch streams or follow the pros. But that would be funny to see. Is there a link? https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1721216767?t=2h35m22s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shion.2084 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 The post interview with Sneb was funny. So... they played 5 catas? And they won? Tpot ~ yeah dude the class is fricken broken. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shion.2084 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 The other funny bit from that stream was where he gets the leader of the 5 cata team on the call. He's like... so you were kind of meme building with catalyst right... I mean that's not the strongest comp you could make. And dude's like no, if you have five good cata that is the strongest comp. We would beat team USA. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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