Untamed pet actually op and needs to be stopped

[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

Why is the pet teleport on a 10s cooldown? It should be like 40s. Its even more annoying than all the cc and stealth the class gets.

[Mell.4873]

1 hour ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said:

Why is the pet teleport on a 10s cooldown? It should be like 40s. Its even more annoying than all the cc and stealth the class gets.

Its only annoying if you yourself don't have any health. The reality is in most fights you keep your pet from teleporting in since it is very likely to die. AoE it a death sentence to any pet so just keep spamming it and nothing can live. 

[Stand The Wall.6987]

so this is what we're complaining about now? sweet i'm ready

[Gotejjeken.1267]

46 minutes ago, Stand The Wall.6987 said:

so this is what we're complaining about now? sweet i'm ready

I think we've both been here long enough to know this is what the forum always complains about..

[Bazsi.2734]

Ranger

[Kuma.1503]

Agreed nerf Mechanist

[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

8 hours ago, Kuma.1503 said:

Agreed nerf Mechanist

If untamed pet teleport is ok then give mech a 10s cooldown teleport too.

Edited September 23, 2023 by Paradoxoglanis.1904

[Mount Mazama.2917]

We should remove rangers pet as a whole and give it a 25% damage buff universally to make up for it. Soul Beast just gets removed and Untamed get Frev Force back to compensate.

Edit: In case it is not obvious this is not a serious opinion, it is an obviously extreme satiric response to a silly post.

Edited September 28, 2023 by Mount Mazama.2917

[jdawgie.1835]

13 hours ago, Kuma.1503 said:

Agreed nerf Mechanist

You sir have won the internet. Well played. 

[Myror.7521]

Agreed..... Nerf ele

 

Okay okay im srs... ranger is an absolute busted class. And everyone that does not agree. Its meant to be a ranged class and could actually beat a warrior in melee fights while also be able to have some ranged pressure (per pet and Longbow) juuuust think about it Guys xD

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

The Untamed bubble is more of an issue imo.

It's too frequent.

[Gotejjeken.1267]

2 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

The Untamed bubble is more of an issue imo.

It's too frequent.

It's a 25s CD lol.

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

29 minutes ago, Gotejjeken.1267 said:

It's a 25s CD lol.

25s is incredibly low for such a large antiprojectile field that lasts as long as it does, that also pulses damage and chill, in conjunction with the other F1 F2 skills, that also follows the pet while it teleports and follows to keep bubble on someone, which is two teleport follows if it's a smokescale.

Realistically it should be on about a 40s CD. It cycles too frequently for everything else the Untamed has.

Also, when they use Staff 5 with axe 5 and turtle bubble, in conjunction with the Untamed bubble, it's literally permanent AoE antiprojectile uptime for those wise enough to stand in it. It's actually more busted than mag aura.

 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Trevor Boyer.6524

[jdawgie.1835]

5 hours ago, Myror.7521 said:

Agreed..... Nerf ele

Ah yes. You also sir, have won the internet. 

Edited September 23, 2023 by jdawgie.1835

[shakey.4381]

Anyone that complains about rangers clearly has a skill issue. They're not that great compared to the kits that all other classes have. Their condi builds only have bleed/poison. They have no AoEs. They're shared boons are miniscule. Very little condi removal. Stop trying to 1v1 Soulbeast/Untamed rangers if you can't dodge. LoS around a corner for like 4s and you're good.

[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

18 minutes ago, budd.5726 said:

LoS around a corner for like 4s and you're good.

Except the pet teleports on you every 10s 🤔

[arazoth.7290]

1 hour ago, budd.5726 said:

Anyone that complains about rangers clearly has a skill issue. They're not that great compared to the kits that all other classes have. Their condi builds only have bleed/poison. They have no AoEs. They're shared boons are miniscule. Very little condi removal. Stop trying to 1v1 Soulbeast/Untamed rangers if you can't dodge. LoS around a corner for like 4s and you're good.

soulbeast are pretty squishy, focus them a little with the group and they backdown or die. Untamed not seeing much a problem, unless you get outskilled by the player

[arazoth.7290]

1 hour ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said:

Except the pet teleports on you every 10s 🤔

If you can't deal with a simple pet, then you're doing something severely wrong 🥲

[shakey.4381]

2 hours ago, arazoth.7290 said:

If you can't deal with a simple pet, then you're doing something severely wrong 🥲

Thank you lol. It's a pet with 3 skills. It can't dodge or jump. Just kill the thing lol.

Edited September 24, 2023 by budd.5726
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[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

2 hours ago, arazoth.7290 said:

If you can't deal with a simple pet, then you're doing something severely wrong 🥲

 

4 minutes ago, budd.5726 said:

Thank you lol. It's a pet with 3 skills. It can't dodge or jump. Just kill the thing lol.

You guys have been fighting trash rangers. No one in plat+ is going to afk and let their 40k hp pet die.

[Gotejjeken.1267]

7 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

25s is incredibly low for such a large antiprojectile field that lasts as long as it does, that also pulses damage and chill, in conjunction with the other F1 F2 skills, that also follows the pet while it teleports and follows to keep bubble on someone, which is two teleport follows if it's a smokescale.

Realistically it should be on about a 40s CD. It cycles too frequently for everything else the Untamed has.

Also, when they use Staff 5 with axe 5 and turtle bubble, in conjunction with the Untamed bubble, it's literally permanent AoE antiprojectile uptime for those wise enough to stand in it. It's actually more busted than mag aura.

 

40 seconds, lol.  Every other projectile denial field of its type is on a ~30s CD (siege turtle bubble, mech barrier signet, guard shelter heal, etc.), so 40s is just math out of nowhere. 

Closest is probably smoke screen on 45s CD but that's a smoke field that also pulses blind which is a LOT more useful than just a dome that conditionally inflicts chill if CC'd and does utterly negligible damage.      

You should be asking for nerfs to Doylak Stance, the 'do everything' button--not putting together a bunch of things and calling it OP when in reality the use case is very limited.  Maybe Dolyak Stance should be 60 seconds using this logic? Defensive utilities that are primarily used offensively are pretty unhealthy.  

Also, kind of contradictory when I believe it was you that said the LB/GS Untamed is still the 'most busted' variant---so all this talk about staff and axe....why....? 

[Gotejjeken.1267]

1 hour ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said:

 

You guys have been fighting trash rangers. No one in plat+ is going to afk and let their 40k hp pet die.

Bro, even traiting BM, siege turtle which has the largest HP is only 31k HP.  

Since, I seriously, SERIOUSLY hope you aren't dying to siege turtle--we can look at smokescale that has ~24k HP traited BM and ~23k without, and god forbid someone run something like Iboga with 15k HP which absolutely explodes vs. anything lol.  

Hyperbole isn't helping that you get wrecked by braindead AI that can't even path up slopes/stairs/slightly non-flat surfaces properly.  

Edited September 24, 2023 by Gotejjeken.1267

[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

27 minutes ago, Gotejjeken.1267 said:

Bro, even traiting BM, siege turtle which has the largest HP is only 31k HP.  

Since, I seriously, SERIOUSLY hope you aren't dying to siege turtle--we can look at smokescale that has ~24k HP traited BM and ~23k without, and god forbid someone run something like Iboga with 15k HP which absolutely explodes vs. anything lol.  

Hyperbole isn't helping that you get wrecked by braindead AI that can't even path up slopes/stairs/slightly non-flat surfaces properly.  

funny how you guys seem to think im getting 1v1ed by pets. Hyperbole isnt helping you there

[shakey.4381]

It's funny how often people complain about something they have little knowledge of. They see a thing, constantly bang their head against it, and then wish for it to be banished. Try playing that class and then you'll understand how it works and better understand how to counter it. Or do a little bit of research if you care that much to angry post about it. Just like in any game or anywhere for that matter. If all else fails, if you can't beat em, join em.

[Gotejjeken.1267]

1 hour ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said:

funny how you guys seem to think im getting 1v1ed by pets. Hyperbole isnt helping you there

Your topic literally references the pet 'needing to be stopped' as if it is some unstoppable force, when in reality we get things like untamed controls to move it forward as they can barely walk on their own 🤣