Merica Madman.4695 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) This is an example of how a commander was private tagging and requiring Discord usage. This stratifies the community as well as preventing those from the same progression as those in the squad. So, I decided to publicly tag up to allow an inclusive environment for everyone to play with similar progression free of bullying, harassment, and exclusion to join a guild or VOIP. At one point there were 15 people in the squad and they were DMing me about how negative their Discord was about me publicly tagging up and playing along side them. I guess having PUGs outside their squad is okay but when someone questions their authority with a dot over their head there's an issue? I had to explain at one point that I don't care what people do in my squad or the game. That's their experience that they paid for. If they want to run off and chase someone to die... so be it. That's their experience and their enjoyment. Who am I to control or stop that? My issue is exclusion from similar progression for control. We need a more game driven massive player experience with everyone having the same authority. My issue is that individuals shouldn't be put into situations where they need to publicly tag up so other players get the same experience as private tags. That just encourages more power / control over others which is never good!! I am curious to see how Throne and Liberty handles the massive PVP experience. Link to image showing 2 tags... https://ibb.co/LZ1FxPL Edited January 9 by LordMadman.5812 1 1 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CafPow.1542 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Nobody is excluding you or anybody else from anything. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWhitey.9076 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 This was just closed because you continue to gaslight guilds on how you want to run. Stop trying to gatekeep. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vares.8457 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) It’s not up to you to decide how others play the game. If someone requires to join voice or tags private it’s his right to do so. I would always prefer a squad with voice over some random with a tag who don’t know what to do and where the squad runs like headless chickens. Edited January 9 by vares.8457 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 35 minutes ago, LordMadman.5812 said: I am curious to see how Throne and Liberty handles the massive PVP experience. Looks... uh... fun... very... hm... Well at least the HP bars are visible, I guess🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chichimec.9364 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, LordMadman.5812 said: ...power / control over others which is never good!!... roflmao - Yet that is exactly what you are trying to do - exert power and control over how others play the game! 🤣🤣🤣 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 it doesn't matter what they say, if you wanna tag and others wanna follow then do it. let them rage like children just have fun dood 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Darkfury.3729 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 This post causes so much rage in my heart, I can't properly reply without getting banned... Gonna go cool down for a bit, collect my thought then come back and try and reply in a non condescending manner... 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Darkfury.3729 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Ok to answer the OP properly... 1) Hidden tags are COMPED fight guilds. You aren't allowed in because you aren't running a meta build OR your meta build isn't synergistic with said comp. 2) They are organized and have set lines. What I mean by this, is they have regular players who play regularly together and that is why they do so well. 3) Asking to be on Discord is not some kind of assault on you or elitism. It's a SIMPLE requirement where you don't even have to talk. You can be muted! It's to listen to the commander. How are you gonna know when to push or pull back or cut right or left? The amount of time it takes your brain to register the movement you are already over 300 units away from the group and a dead man/woman. 4) What you are doing, following the hidden tag, is ACTUALLY... wait for it... YOU harassing THEM. You are bringing an unorganized comp into organized fights where 90% of your pugs are gonna die and be nothing but rally bots for the enemies that get downed by the organized group whom... and let me say this again... YOU are harassing by following their closed/invisible tag. 5) The invisible tag was SPECIFICALLY designed for the purpose of fight guilds and other organized comped groups to be able to hide. We FOUGHT for that as it wasn't always a feature for thus very reason. To keep pugs away. My advice? Get over this obsession you have with feeling hurt or offended and actually talk to someone who is in one of these fight guilds to understand why they do this before making an outlandish post accusing people of being toxic. Happy trails future loot bag! 8 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Darkfury.3729 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Looks... uh... fun... very... hm... Well at least the HP bars are visible, I guess🤷♂️ God that looks absolutely awful... it's like Maguuma cloud pirate ship... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urd.8306 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 26 minutes ago, Solomon Darkfury.3729 said: Ok to answer the OP properly... 1) Hidden tags are COMPED fight guilds. You aren't allowed in because you aren't running a meta build OR your meta build isn't synergistic with said comp. 2) They are organized and have set lines. What I mean by this, is they have regular players who play regularly together and that is why they do so well. 3) Asking to be on Discord is not some kind of assault on you or elitism. It's a SIMPLE requirement where you don't even have to talk. You can be muted! It's to listen to the commander. How are you gonna know when to push or pull back or cut right or left? The amount of time it takes your brain to register the movement you are already over 300 units away from the group and a dead man/woman. 4) What you are doing, following the hidden tag, is ACTUALLY... wait for it... YOU harassing THEM. You are bringing an unorganized comp into organized fights where 90% of your pugs are gonna die and be nothing but rally bots for the enemies that get downed by the organized group whom... and let me say this again... YOU are harassing by following their closed/invisible tag. 5) The invisible tag was SPECIFICALLY designed for the purpose of fight guilds and other organized comped groups to be able to hide. We FOUGHT for that as it wasn't always a feature for thus very reason. To keep pugs away. My advice? Get over this obsession you have with feeling hurt or offended and actually talk to someone who is in one of these fight guilds to understand why they do this before making an outlandish post accusing people of being toxic. Happy trails future loot bag! It's funny how you have the feeling you could decide who is following a hidden tag and it's wrong to do so. You don't have your exclusive rights in a mmorpg and I think you gotta deal with it. If you want exclusive fighting there is a guild hall and that arena in EotM where you can do this 24/7. And it's a bit hypocritical isn't it? I mean you want to tell people where to go while you are full dependent on them scouting, flipping stuff because without them you'll fight alone in tier 5 on your spawn. 2 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPotato.7456 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 This thread is a personal vendetta and should not be here. the picture posted shows players names, I know what server they on now. and it is against the forum rules. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Darkfury.3729 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, urd.8306 said: It's funny how you have the feeling you could decide who is following a hidden tag and it's wrong to do so. You don't have your exclusive rights in a mmorpg and I think you gotta deal with it. If you want exclusive fighting there is a guild hall and that arena in EotM where you can do this 24/7. And it's a bit hypocritical isn't it? I mean you want to tell people where to go while you are full dependent on them scouting, flipping stuff because without them you'll fight alone in tier 5 on your spawn. What part of "It's what the hidden tag was designed for" are you not getting. The developers specifically said that lol Because we asked for it. So, YES following a hidden tag is harassing them. Also, regarding your "hypocritical" statement, No... fight guilds don't care about PPT. If someone else wants to do that, cool, if not who cares? Best fights are in T2 and T3 anyways. Mediocre PPT is perfect. So no we aren't dependent on them at all. We crack open Garris for the fights and will only flip when the opposition gives up. We've literally stood out of a circle on the lord actively NOT flipping just for the bag farm... So your idea that we care if someone else PPTs shows you've never been in a fight guild. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kash.9213 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 49 minutes ago, Solomon Darkfury.3729 said: What part of "It's what the hidden tag was designed for" are you not getting. The developers specifically said that lol Because we asked for it. So, YES following a hidden tag is harassing them. Also, regarding your "hypocritical" statement, No... fight guilds don't care about PPT. If someone else wants to do that, cool, if not who cares? Best fights are in T2 and T3 anyways. Mediocre PPT is perfect. So no we aren't dependent on them at all. We crack open Garris for the fights and will only flip when the opposition gives up. We've literally stood out of a circle on the lord actively NOT flipping just for the bag farm... So your idea that we care if someone else PPTs shows you've never been in a fight guild. It does kind of seem like you're dependent on them though if they're keeping you in t2 and t3, especially if you're not capping stuff. I know you're saying "fight guild" but it sounds like you're staying where you're at so you can farm people by ones and twos responding to dead home bl alarms. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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