Sinister.5792 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) Hi with the upcoming new weapons, I think it is time to tweak necro weapon skills. The greatsword is so useless.. the casting time is horrendous, these skills should be instant activation... GS 2 is like the most clunky skill ever followed by GS 3 and GS 4... GS 2 should act like heartseeker.. and GS 3 should be atleast a x2 use , GS 4 should be instant with atleast blocking action (if other players have GS Blocks, necros should have it too, it only makes sense) GS 5 should be acting more like scorpion wire.. Talking about Greatsword in general, time to change greatsword with guardian too... with Greatsword block on one of the skill like how rangers have it.. I dont understand why melee skills have a casting time.. it is dumb Edited February 19 by Sinister.5792 3 4 26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumek.9043 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Its a PVE only weapon. 2x autoatacks + 3x dmg skills , all clunky and unreliable. Considering it didnt get changed during its marrketing prime, or any other balance rework - it wont happen. Imagine, for it to work in todays PVP meta: #1 faster autoatack, like perma quickness #2 range 300 + added stability , superspeed and blind immunity , to fit the "you cant get away from me" theme #3 600 range port #4 only good skill, stays same #5 keep pretty but useless animation - in reality use spectral grasp skill And then, even with above "wet dream" buffs - you still cant live 1v2 and need a support babysitter. 1 1 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liewec.2896 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 i like the slower skills they make the weapon feel big and powerful, the only problem is that the numbers aren't there to back it up. 8 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Posts like this remind me why the community shouldn't be in charge of balance. 30 6 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methuselah.4376 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 7 hours ago, Lahmia.2193 said: Posts like this remind me why the community shouldn't be in charge of balance. Preach 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 1:14 AM, Sinister.5792 said: NECRO GREATSWORD NEEDS OVERHAUL No it doesn't. Quote I dont understand why melee skills have a casting time.. it is dumb Ever heard about precast? GS hits more reliable than dagger in the competitive modes and in PvE its speed doesn't matter. 21 hours ago, Flumek.9043 said: Its a PVE only weapon. No it isn't. 9 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Darkblight.1673 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 8 hours ago, Lahmia.2193 said: Posts like this remind me why the community shouldn't be in charge of balance. Is anyone actually in charge of balance though? 🤔🤭 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methuselah.4376 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 31 minutes ago, Remus Darkblight.1673 said: Is anyone actually in charge of balance though? 🤔🤭 A rather competent team, pve wise at least. 1 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methuselah.4376 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 1:14 AM, Sinister.5792 said: The greatsword is so useless.. the casting time is horrendous, these skills should be instant activation... Greatsword is one of the best weapons in the necro's toolkit. Though slow, it does hit hard, it has vulnerability application, chill application, pulsing blind, boon strip and a pull. It's very diverse in its abilities and this is a strength both in PvE and PvP. Gravedigger in PvP is meant to be used in an opening, not whenever. Why should it be insta cast? So what's the point of having quickness? On 2/19/2024 at 1:14 AM, Sinister.5792 said: Talking about Greatsword in general, time to change greatsword with guardian too... with Greatsword block on one of the skill like how rangers have it.. Right...because guardians lack block in general right? I don't understand these people that want every profession to do the exact same thing, like why bother having professions in the first place then? 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Necromancer's GS is what it is. If you don't like it, don't use it. It's not like there is no weapon choice. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTeamG.4603 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 >comes into the necro forum with a thief icon >says necro GS 5 should function like scorpion wire This has to be a troll, right? I don't know what kinda wild stuff got put into your Peppercorn-crusted Sous Vide Steak, but I want whatever you're on. Necro GS is not a dueling weapon, and it works great for both PvE and for group fights in WvW. GS 4 has pulsing blind, which is a defensive option of its own. GS 2 feels great even if it's a bit slow. GS 3 is fast and strong. GS 5 is amazing and so much better than the standard projectile pull. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimon.7840 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 23 hours ago, KrHome.1920 said: No it doesn't. Ever heard about precast? GS hits more reliable than dagger in the competitive modes and in PvE its speed doesn't matter. No it isn't. Exactly. Gs isn't a pure pve weapon. In wvw Zerg play it's very good and even in roaming it's useable. You just have to know, how to use it. Imo in roaming it's more of a utility weapon rather than a dmg weapon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CafPow.1542 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I would like a dash or something on it tho. Like the 3 could be a leap forward. That would be awesome. not like it makes necro super op it would just be very nice. besides that i use it a lot in wvw. The pull is nice. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumek.9043 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Seeing greatsword enjoyers just makes you lose hope. 1 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I think the cooldowns on the 4 and 5 are too long tbh. Anet tends to go too far with many of these zerg balance nerfs. 6 hours ago, CafPow.1542 said: I would like a dash or something on it tho. Like the 3 could be a leap forward. That would be awesome. We got Wurm, Speed Relic, and Sword w/ leaps coming down the pipe. Mobility should be good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CafPow.1542 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 51 minutes ago, SleepyBat.9034 said: I think the cooldowns on the 4 and 5 are too long tbh. Anet tends to go too far with many of these zerg balance nerfs. We got Wurm, Speed Relic, and Sword w/ leaps coming down the pipe. Mobility should be good. I onow what we have already and what we will get. I don’t want sword. I want GS to have mobility. call me crazy but the emo-fantasy of cutting myself with the sword „mechanic“ doesn’t satisfy me at all. But that’s another topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatelGeuce.3591 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 They should remove the auto-attack ability from skill 4, that's about the only change it needs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowmoon.7986 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Only change I would want is for gs3 to behave like stinger in devil may cry. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XECOR.2814 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 11 hours ago, Shadowmoon.7986 said: Only change I would want is for gs3 to behave like stinger in devil may cry. I posted it many times before but I would love to see this change too. It would make the greatsword feel much better to play overall and it would be a lot of fun. Not to mention greatsword then might see use in competitive modes too. The animation already is built exactly for it, just need to add movement component. Heres the video for reference from devil may cry - stinger skill. Aside: from this: maybe a tad bit faster auto attacks would help a lot. Also grave digger does too less damage in competitive modes compared to its radius and cast time. Edited February 23 by XECOR.2814 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimon.7840 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 hours ago, SleepyBat.9034 said: I think the cooldowns on the 4 and 5 are too long tbh. Anet tends to go too far with many of these zerg balance nerfs. We got Wurm, Speed Relic, and Sword w/ leaps coming down the pipe. Mobility should be good. The problem is, that this greatly limits build diversity if you basically have to play Wurm, Walk and speed relic on every single build to get mobility that still can't really keep up with the mobility of other classes. Even swords don't really add much mobility. 450 range leap? - I mean common And for the second one you have to pay health. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobber.6348 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Always enjoyed GS and if anything about it needs a change, GS3 needs better tracking and even a small gap close toward its target to confirm the hit. Otherwise, really solid weapon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daevhalla.7823 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Greatsword is great. At most it only needs some minor adjustments in number and maybe a bit faster autoattack. Tho I would not mind GS4 applying stability and/or swiftness, it does feel appropriate there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldBC.4927 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I agree with Liewec On 2/19/2024 at 2:18 PM, Liewec.2896 said: i like the slower skills they make the weapon feel big and powerful, the only problem is that the numbers aren't there to back it up. It's okay to have a weapon with really slow skills like necro greatsword. But if you make a weapon be really slow and clunky like that, the amount of damage those attacks deal better have some serious power to them. They better hit as hard as the animations would imply, and even in the reaper's post-buff state, they don't really do that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liewec.2896 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 22 hours ago, GeraldBC.4927 said: I agree with Liewec It's okay to have a weapon with really slow skills like necro greatsword. But if you make a weapon be really slow and clunky like that, the amount of damage those attacks deal better have some serious power to them. They better hit as hard as the animations would imply, and even in the reaper's post-buff state, they don't really do that. yups, i like the slow attacks but the damage needs to match it (and currently doesn't!) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellsmachine.4085 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I never liked greatsword, I use dagger/warhorn and dual swords. Way more fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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