ZeroTheCat.2684 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 did you have to make them completely useless in pvp? Why not balance things for once instead of destroying entire specs/weapon sets? 5 3 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Explain. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asket.5674 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 20 minutes ago, ZeroTheCat.2684 said: did you have to make them completely useless in pvp? Why not balance things for once instead of destroying entire specs/weapon sets? No ungabunga ranger, caveman angry 😠 6 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchopMCgee.6193 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Just now, asket.5674 said: No ungabunga ranger, caveman angry 😠 You can still ungabunga, just can't get that extra bungaunga off 😉 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchopMCgee.6193 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 22 minutes ago, ZeroTheCat.2684 said: did you have to make them completely useless in pvp? Why not balance things for once instead of destroying entire specs/weapon sets? Well deserved nerf 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroTheCat.2684 Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 They overdid it as usual. Kneejerk reactions to please the forum warriors.. It's been like this since release. I guarantee maces will be gone from pvp now. As long as Necros are untouched everyone is happy. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said: Explain. Nobody played mace or had any success 2 mats ago because it was too slow. Then they reworked WS with traits that give damage / sustain boost turning WS into the defense traitline of warrior. I am expecting to see builds still using WS variants. If mace is played it will be with carnivore (not that much fun to fight when it is on a druid). Edited May 21 by aymnad.9023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asket.5674 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, ZeroTheCat.2684 said: They overdid it as usual. Kneejerk reactions to please the forum warriors.. It's been like this since release. I guarantee maces will be gone from pvp now. As long as Necros are untouched everyone is happy. Puuh touching necros is a hot topic, they would not want to drive away the remaining cavemen. Edited May 21 by asket.5674 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Those troglodytes had it coming 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, aymnad.9023 said: Nobody played mace or had any success 2 mats ago because it was too slow. Then they reworked WS with traits that give damage / sustain boost turning WS into the defense traitline of warrior. I am expecting to see builds still using WS variants. If mace is played it will be with carnivore (not that much fun to fight when it is on a druid). Literally the only big nerf is the stab reduction. Unleash attack got 10% nerf. Force of Nature got a 5% nerf. As far as damage nerfs go this is tiny. Basically the damage is still there, the sustain and defence is still there. You just cant spam everything and hold w without getting cc'd anymore. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroTheCat.2684 Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, asket.5674 said: Puuh touching necros is a hot topic, they would not want to drive away the remaining cavemen. Yeah god forbid they touch Anets favorite child.. But that was probably the issue. To many Necros complaining they couldn't just delete everything with 2 buttons any more. PvP in this game is a meme at this point. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroTheCat.2684 Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said: Literally the only big nerf is the stab reduction. Unleash attack got 10% nerf. Force of Nature got a 5% nerf. As far as damage nerfs go this is tiny. Basically the damage is still there, the sustain and defence is still there. You just cant spam everything and hold w without getting cc'd anymore. The mace CD nerf is bigger imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowki.7194 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) Its now sub-human, instead of sub-godly, hopefully they remember where the stunbreak button is. Or wait.. not sure if the nerf was that impactful on hold W get kills. Edited May 21 by Flowki.7194 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said: Literally the only big nerf is the stab reduction. Unleash attack got 10% nerf. Force of Nature got a 5% nerf. As far as damage nerfs go this is tiny. Basically the damage is still there, the sustain and defence is still there. You just cant spam everything and hold w without getting cc'd anymore. I love how you either missed or decided to ignore the important quote of the patch note. Damage never was the goal since only 2 skills are meant for damage (and both have some form of delay). edit : because so many things got changed all the small notes will have bigger impact than you suggest. I think they should have gone for 1 and not all. We will soon find out how it feels. Edited May 21 by aymnad.9023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroTheCat.2684 Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 Only necros now. 2 every game.. Well done, anet. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotejjeken.1267 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 6 hours ago, aymnad.9023 said: Nobody played mace or had any success 2 mats ago because it was too slow. Then they reworked WS with traits that give damage / sustain boost turning WS into the defense traitline of warrior. I am expecting to see builds still using WS variants. If mace is played it will be with carnivore (not that much fun to fight when it is on a druid). This. It's always been WS. Stab stack nerf just pushes farther into soulbeast builds now. Only thing that did was make it easier for rangers to CC eachother, no one was complaining about stab access, they were complaining about CC access and the mace reset. It's fine though, the bar in sPvP is so low I'm still using a Druid build from 2021 in g3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingSwipe.3084 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 It was far beyond deserved at this point. The sheer amount of kittenery the Mace/Mace builds produced was astounding. The fact that it didnt get hotfixed sooner is a blatant display of how protective they are of ranger as a profession. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frequency.6407 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I like how ele was Anet's favourite until it was nerfed. For some time now people have claimed that ranger is Anet's favourite. Next favourite is vindi? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingSwipe.3084 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Frequency.6407 said: I like how ele was Anet's favourite until it was nerfed. For some time now people have claimed that ranger is Anet's favourite. Next favourite is vindi? Their all time baby is going to be Guardian. But for a while they seemed to go real hard on Ele, then on Ranger. Vindi was just a happy coincidence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekent.3652 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Deserved nerf, it was way too strong. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixl Super Eu Ixl.3259 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Stability, barrier, crowd control skills with damage, condition removal, leap, small heals, and built in buffs for simply landing skills with a forgiving timer on the stack system. Woe is ranger. Yeah, it needs to be nerfed more but their model of selling expansion packs trumps that so be happy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XECOR.2814 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 ranger mains crying about nerfs when they have literally every tool in the game built in their build is so funny. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderzShadow.2506 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 On 5/22/2024 at 5:11 AM, Frequency.6407 said: I like how ele was Anet's favourite until it was nerfed. For some time now people have claimed that ranger is Anet's favourite. Next favourite is vindi? protective of ranger...... hilarious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbsl.5368 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 No maces no ranger,if u never buy solo dlc ,u cant used power slb .druld,untamed every good build. No maces ,u just played poor condi slb,one shout power longbow slb. arnet make pvp dead...hmm,pvp always dead 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 5 hours ago, Nbsl.5368 said: No maces no ranger,if u never buy solo dlc ,u cant used power slb .druld,untamed every good build. No maces ,u just played poor condi slb,one shout power longbow slb. arnet make pvp dead...hmm,pvp always dead all is vain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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