Mike.7983 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Simple fix if they added a UI to the account 15 saying what value got bumped to. Like account swim infusion +15 (20) if got first boost. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitaro.3695 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Makes sense. Maybe all they need to do it is put a new symbol where the boost symbols are above the 5x skills. [+20 Swim Speed] like they do with Celebration Bonus, Reinforced Armor or Guild Reward Track, etc..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Has anyone been able to confirm actual swim speed after purchasing the +20 service and not simply just relied upon the tooltip of the infusion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 46 minutes ago, Parasite.5389 said: the Account Swim-Speed Boost +20, +25 and +30 are Services, not items, nothing will be added to your iventory when purchased Correct, but it should be marked somewhere in either the tooltip or the Hero Panel what boost you currently have. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral.3724 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I'm so confused about how this is supposed to work. I hope someone can figure it out and make a video or guide so I don't waste my money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthan.5236 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Maybe they don't actually have stuff in the code that easily allows them to change the text depending on the unlock level. (Though for other stuff there is text that changes. The "unlocked" vor the skins.) Easy workaround could be to apply a (yet another) boon when you go into the water. Showing the info there on the tooltip. 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake.5741 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 i am not seeing where this +20 is applied anywhere. No real way of knowing that we are getting it. Anet should show this somewhere... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Gomer.9563 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 4 hours ago, Chaba.5410 said: Has anyone been able to confirm actual swim speed after purchasing the +20 service and not simply just relied upon the tooltip of the infusion? This... someone needs to do a check a 15 vs a 20 to see if its working as intended 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionwait.4815 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) If you ask me. This is one of the worst flops I have seen Anet do. It's as if Anet is just saying look guys you can have account bound swim speed, but we aren't going to show you that it applied, and it will cost you a ton of gold and time and you'll still question if it is even working and if it does work it will leave you wondering how it even works. Am I getting an upgrade from a 15-swim speed to a 20-swim speed or am I getting a 15+20=35 swim speed. Edited June 27 by Lionwait.4815 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Gomer.9563 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Any word on this issue? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted June 29 Author Share Posted June 29 (edited) 4 hours ago, Firebird Gomer.9563 said: Any word on this issue? I suspect it's working as intended, so they are in no hurry to update the tooltop functionality to correctly reflect the infusion's actual swim speed. 🤷♀️ Edited June 29 by Ashantara.8731 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melok.2173 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 @Rubi Bayer.8493 - Is there awareness of this issue and a potential fix being worked on? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fable spirt.8465 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Hope the tool tip is fixed but they might not think it's an issue for now and may just fix it when JW drops (if even then) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melok.2173 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Has anyone heard if this got fixed yet? I was not sure if I should wait to get the +20 account bonus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizgurk.5639 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) Hello guys. After reading this topic, I did some testing. The results might be of interest to you all. @Rubi Bayer.8493 I measured the time it took with swimming a straight line between two predetermined points somewhere in the open waters. Then I swam that line three times, once without any kind of Swim-Speed infusions, once with an original +15 infusion, and once with the new Account Swim-Speed infusion, which has the account wide upgrade for +20 - without any infusion I swam that distance within 1:23 - with the original +15 infusion I swam that distance within 1:12 - with the Account Swim-Speed +20 upgrade I swam that distance in 1:09 So far it makes me faster. But does it make me as fast as it's supposed to do? - If I take the time of the first round and calculate for the +15, then 83*100/115 equals 72, which is exactly the time I had swum. - If I take the time of the first round and calculate for the +20 Account infusion, then 83*100/120 equals 69, which is also exactly the time I had swum. Conclusion: The Account Swim-Speed infusion works exactly the way I expected it to work. It's just not reflected in the tooltip in anyway, which might be a bit misleading. But it's working as intended. Disclaimer: If you intend to repeat this kind of test, then be aware that swim speed stacks additive with any other kind of movement speed increase. Futhermore, it's affected by the movement speed cap. Cheers Edited July 2 by Bizgurk.5639 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted July 3 Author Share Posted July 3 8 hours ago, Bizgurk.5639 said: Conclusion: The Account Swim-Speed infusion works exactly the way I expected it to work. It's just not reflected in the tooltip in anyway, which might be a bit misleading. Thank you very much for taking the time to accurately test this! 🙂 8 hours ago, Bizgurk.5639 said: But it's working as intended. I suppose this is why ANet is in no hurry to rework the tooltip. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zok.4956 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bizgurk.5639 said: - without any infusion I swam that distance within 1:23 - with the original +15 infusion I swam that distance within 1:12 - with the Account Swim-Speed +20 upgrade I swam that distance in 1:09 So far it makes me faster. But does it make me as fast as it's supposed to do? - If I take the time of the first round and calculate for the +15, then 83*100/115 equals 72, which is exactly the time I had swum. - If I take the time of the first round and calculate for the +20 Account infusion, then 83*100/120 equals 69, which is also exactly the time I had swum. Your values, just calculated differently to make the speed increase clearer: +15: (1:23-1:12)/1:23 = (83-72)/83 = 0,13 = 13% +20: (1:12-1:09)/1:12 = (72-69)/72 = 0,041 = 4% +20: (1:23-1:09)/1:23) = (83-69)/83 = 0,168 = 17% With the +15 you were 13% faster compared to no speed boost. With the +20 you were 4% faster compared to the +15 With the +20 you were 17% faster compared to no speed boost. Assuming that the deviations (13% instead of 15%, 4% instead of 5%, 17% instead of 20%) are just measurement inaccuracies, the infusions seem to work exactly as their values suggest: The "+20 Account Swim Speed Upgrade" is not additive with the +15, but sets the actual speed increase and causes the same speed increase as the (old) "Swim Speed Infusion +20". Edited July 3 by Zok.4956 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspicious Khani.9275 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Yeah I'm really confused on the new "Account" swim speed upgrade and it's so not clear in game. The infusion makes it seem like the base acct swim boost is 15%, and then you add the 20% bonus to that based on the wording of the tool tip. The infusion tool tip says ". Increases swim speed by 15%, plus account bonus. +5 Agony Resistance " IF it's additive then Plus account bonus tracks. If it's not then it should be worded ". Increases swim speed by 15%, or unlocked account bonus. +5 Agony Resistance" Also, why only +5 AR when normal stat/AR infusions come with +9?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yngvi.3452 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 18 minutes ago, Suspicious Khani.9275 said: Yeah I'm really confused on the new "Account" swim speed upgrade and it's so not clear in game. The infusion makes it seem like the base acct swim boost is 15%, and then you add the 20% bonus to that based on the wording of the tool tip. The infusion tool tip says ". Increases swim speed by 15%, plus account bonus. +5 Agony Resistance " IF it's additive then Plus account bonus tracks. If it's not then it should be worded ". Increases swim speed by 15%, or unlocked account bonus. +5 Agony Resistance" Also, why only +5 AR when normal stat/AR infusions come with +9?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yngvi.3452 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Any word from anet how this thing is suppose to work. I'm pretty miffed I have 19 characters. It should be straight forward not hidden in indifferentness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fable spirt.8465 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Suspicious Khani.9275 said: Also, why only +5 AR when normal stat/AR infusions come with +9?? You don't really need the AR as proven by the years we spent without it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.7890 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 16 hours ago, Bizgurk.5639 said: Hello guys. After reading this topic, I did some testing. The results might be of interest to you all. @Rubi Bayer.8493 I measured the time it took with swimming a straight line between two predetermined points somewhere in the open waters. Then I swam that line three times, once without any kind of Swim-Speed infusions, once with an original +15 infusion, and once with the new Account Swim-Speed infusion, which has the account wide upgrade for +20 - without any infusion I swam that distance within 1:23 - with the original +15 infusion I swam that distance within 1:12 - with the Account Swim-Speed +20 upgrade I swam that distance in 1:09 So far it makes me faster. But does it make me as fast as it's supposed to do? - If I take the time of the first round and calculate for the +15, then 83*100/115 equals 72, which is exactly the time I had swum. - If I take the time of the first round and calculate for the +20 Account infusion, then 83*100/120 equals 69, which is also exactly the time I had swum. Conclusion: The Account Swim-Speed infusion works exactly the way I expected it to work. It's just not reflected in the tool-tip in anyway, which might be a bit misleading. But it's working as intended. Disclaimer: If you intend to repeat this kind of test, then be aware that swim speed stacks additive with any other kind of movement speed increase. Furthermore, it's affected by the movement speed cap. Cheers This also reflects my experience as well, after buying +15's and the account upgrade +20. However, I believe that it could be further remedied if Anet did two things: They clarify in the tool-tip that the account swim speed upgrade is not additive with the account +15 infusions. They add some form of indicator as to the fact that you have indeed bought the +20 account upgrade. As of right now, I believe a lot of the confusion stems from both the tool-tip not being clear (it says plus), and people not realizing that they actually got the account upgrade, despite paying for it. Just go into Lions Arch map chat for example and wait 5 minutes and I can guarantee someone will ask about it in map chat, since that's been my experience every time I go to LA. Edited July 3 by Matt.7890 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwolf.8567 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Also had the +20 upgrade 'disappear' when I bought it... the +15 account wide infusion still shows as '+15' - there is no evidence that the +20 was applied anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniyyel.3428 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 had this happen to me, was able to buy the account wide infusion, my +20 swim infusion and the 30 ecto disappeared. Not seeing a new infusion or when in water I don't see a buff showing swim speed or a buff icon like we got from buying the karma buffs in LW maps. Does anyone know if this is how it's suppose to work? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorOverlord.8620 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) An account wide-swim speed bonus would be nice, so I really hope all this is just some kind of bug. It would be really helpful to hear something from the devs - ANet has been trying to be more transparent recently and they need to post something about this, or at least say that they're aware something is wrong. Edited July 4 by DoctorOverlord.8620 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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