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Killing Elder Dragons is BAD! But What about Braham!

ok So we all know we're going to the crystal desert to find and defeat Balthazar , but have we forgot about Braham?! This guy now has some magical infused Fire bow from his mom and is off to Kill Jormag. Why aren't we talking about this guy? why wasn't this explain at least in the trailer or a recap? Can someone explain to me whats going on ? Maybe they will talk about this in the expansion , but i feel like the story is all over the place and just jumps from point to point with out finishing explaining what happened to other characters in the game.

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  • It was said on episode six that Braham realized that Jormag went back to sleep. So I dont think he is going to use his bow any time soon, which makes Balthazar the pressing matter. This and Palawa Joko will probably be the center of LS4, I think.

  • What? where can that be found can i get some video or a screenshot of them saying that ? Cause it went right over my head.

  • While we are in an epic battle with Balthazar to save the world, Braham is equally the thread to Tyria, and just ignored =)

  • Djinn.9245Djinn.9245 Member ✭✭✭

    @Beorn Raukar.4328 said:
    It was said on episode six that Braham realized that Jormag went back to sleep. So I dont think he is going to use his bow any time soon, which makes Balthazar the pressing matter. This and Palawa Joko will probably be the center of LS4, I think.

    I don't remember it being quite this definitive, and there should have been more about this but...writing. However, the fact that Balthazar isn't going after the sleeping Jormag or Primordus (he was right near Primordus when that dragon went back to sleep) would seem to indicate that it is hard to get at a dragon once they are sleeping. So we are probably OK where Jormag is concerned.

    Regarding Braham, I just hope he goes away forever. I'm going to be really pissed if they force us to have him in our Guild for the rest of the game.

  • Braham will obviously become a dentist specialized in oral healthcare for Elder Dragons. XD

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Since Elona is also the subject of S4, the devs will have the xpac budget for far shiverpeaks. Or he'll come back and we get somewhere else first

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  • @Fenom.9457 said:
    Since Elona is also the subject of S4, the devs will have the xpac budget for far shiverpeaks. Or he'll come back and we get somewhere else first

    Im not sure that we can actually say for certain that Elona is the subject of S4 based on POF simply because S3 bounced us all over the place.

    I think we will have some Braham/Jormag issues rise up in S4 due to his need to settle things after Eir ... were going back to the Shiverpeaks at some point and it will be long before another expansion.

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    @Ashen.2907 said:
    I dont reallly want Braham dead. I just dont want him around. As in removed from any continent I am on, have been to, or might be expected to visit in the future

    This...so much. I would never take him in to combat. I certainly don't want him in any guild I'm in. Imagine guild chat...or worse, discord. /sigh

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  • Malthurius.6870Malthurius.6870 Member ✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017

    In episode 6, shortly after finishing the task for Dwayna, Taimi calls the player character and has this conversation:

    Taimi: You won't believe what just happened, Commander. Guess. No, never mind, can't wait. Braham sent me a letter.
    Taimi: Would you like me to read it? Of course you would. He says, "Taimi. What did the commander do to Jormag?"
    Taimi: "Destiny's Edge—my guild—had it surrounded, and then... Suddenly, an anguished roar, and it returned to the ice."
    : Stop. Do we have to do this now? I can't deal with both him and Balthazar.
    Taimi: He says the norn want him to kill Jormag. Why oh why did he put his arrow in that tooth?
    : I don't have time for his tantrums. He just didn't think.
    Taimi: And... he didn't ask your permission either.
    : (sigh) I could have protected him from this. He'll either change course, or we'll have to stop him.
    Taimi: But since Jormag's all snoozy, he doesn't have a chance of killing it now, does he?
    : He better not. Talk to him. Maybe you can get him to see reason. It's never too late for him to do the right thing.
    Taimi: I don't know if he has a choice anymore. He's under a lot of pressure to live up to Eir's legend. And, he's so young.
    : Older than you.
    Taimi: Only physically... Taimi out.
    Taimi: Oh, Rox sends her love. Really out.

    So, no confirmation that he's given up, but he can't get to Jormag with him dormant like he is.

    Apparently Braham was very busy off screen.

  • Why do people hate Braham?

  • Being honest, I read the title of your thread and got my hopes up for a discussion on different ways we can kill Braham.
    I had my hopes up for a lot of fun and twisted details to kill him off.

  • @Spinex.3695 said:
    Why do people hate Braham?

    Writers goofed a bit and forgot that Braham is a Norn. As a result stuff from Malthurius's post happened.

  • He's so whiney, it's unbearable.

    @Malthurius.6870 said:
    Because he had complete disregard for anyone except his own goals, leaving Rox frozen and showing little regret for putting her in danger. He also saw the commander creating a new guild and letting Destiny's Edge be immortalized in time as an insult to his mother, even though it was the opposite. He's also willing to put innocent lives at risk because he personally wants to kill Jormag, even though Taimi had a solution that would theoretically leave no lives at risk.

    Basically, Braham is making bad, irrational, and emotional decisions and is being completely self centered, believing that the dragons are his sole responsibility when it's been proven countless times before that people coming together kills the dragons.

    If he continues to hunt Jormag in the face of the in-stabilization of Tyria, then he'll fall from graces even further.

    And yeah. This too.

  • Djinn.9245Djinn.9245 Member ✭✭✭

    @Spinex.3695 said:
    Why do people hate Braham?

    Cause I'm sick of his whining.

  • Braham was actually a pretty neat character, and he was kitten for a bit with his mother dying and all that. Then he just turned into a whiney mess.

    I'm actually fairly certain they are going to turn Braham into a bad guy either this expansion, or next expansion. And either we will save him, or he turn to the light at the last moment and sacrifice himself to save the world! Or some silly cliche. /Icanseethefuture

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017

    @Fractured.3928 said:
    Braham was actually a pretty neat character, and he was kitten for a bit with his mother dying and all that. Then he just turned into a whiney mess.

    I'm actually fairly certain they are going to turn Braham into a bad guy either this expansion, or next expansion. And either we will save him, or he turn to the light at the last moment and sacrifice himself to save the world! Or some silly cliche. /Icanseethefuture

    Killing Eir was totally unecessary and brought on nothing positive in terms of character/plot development at all.* If it is just going to lead Braham into becoming Trahearne 2.0 like that, I'll be genuinely mad at the writers of Anet. Srsly.

    *Except the memorial service in Hoelbrak. That was genuinely touching and I loved it.

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  • @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Fractured.3928 said:
    Braham was actually a pretty neat character, and he was kitten for a bit with his mother dying and all that. Then he just turned into a whiney mess.

    I'm actually fairly certain they are going to turn Braham into a bad guy either this expansion, or next expansion. And either we will save him, or he turn to the light at the last moment and sacrifice himself to save the world! Or some silly cliche. /Icanseethefuture

    Killing Eir was totally unecessary and brought on nothing positive in terms of character/plot development at all.* If it is just going to lead Braham into becoming Trahearne 2.0 like that, I'll be genuinely mad at the writers of Anet. Srsly.

    *Except the memorial service in Hoelbrak. That was genuinely touching and I loved it.

    I like that they killed Eir. I liked Eir too. She was my favorite besides Necromancer Caithe (What the hell happened to that anyways?). However, killing Eir isn't just individual character plot. To me, it means that they are willing to kill such an important character, that any other character could die.

    I never thought they would kill Eir. But now that they have, I'm convinced they could kill anyone.

    ****KINDA MINOR POTENTIALLY MAJOR SPOILER FOR S3E4****

    I'm legit still worried that Marjory is going to die (I haven't finished the story, unsure if she does or not.). All because Eir died.

  • Killing Braham?

    You got my sword - and as a ranger also - my bow and my axe!

  • TexZero.7910TexZero.7910 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2017

    @Oglaf.1074 said:
    Killing Eir was totally unecessary and brought on nothing positive in terms of character/plot development at all.* If it is just going to lead Braham into becoming Trahearne 2.0 like that, I'll be genuinely mad at the writers of Anet. Srsly.

    I have to strongly disagree with this.

    Killing off Eir was a necessary evil. Eir's entire character was setup in a way that she absolutely could not exist anymore without being the driving character of the story.
    Eir was the master tactician, helped in tackling the awakening of 3 separate elder dragons (1 more than the PC), had just made amends with Braham and managed to reunite Destiny's Edge. Her heroes journey was ultimately complete, her boy was a man, her extended family was whole there was nothing more she could realistically add except external motivation for the others to continue on after she was gone. She did that in death.

    I don't see Braham being trahearne 2.0. He's so far from the Mary Sue Trahearne was it's not even funny. Right now Braham's story is at its apex, he's going to be coming crashing back down to earth in the form of humility and going on a character redemption story soon. It's the classic story writer setup and i do not see it changing based on everything anet has done thus far.

  • @Beorn Raukar.4328 said:
    It was said on episode six that Braham realized that Jormag went back to sleep. So I dont think he is going to use his bow any time soon, which makes Balthazar the pressing matter. This and Palawa Joko will probably be the center of LS4, I think.

    Braham's reaction via Taimi was less of 'no need to kill' and more 'can no longer kill'. Seems Braham is now being pressured into landing the killing blow but he isn't sure if he should or if he could.

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  • IndigoSundown.5419IndigoSundown.5419 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017

    I find the whole Braham thing to be unfortunate. It's unfortunate that he behaves as he does, and unfortunate that the writers saw fit to saddle my character with dialogue that makes her sound whiny and stupid. So, if the question is, "What about Braham?" then my answer is, "Getting rid of Braham is good." However, please don't kill him, just let him get lost somewhere. If he is killed, there'll probably be a funeral and the writers will force me to say stuff about him that will make me lose my lunch.

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  • Yuyuske.7182Yuyuske.7182 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017

    I think the Braham hate is overstated. He was a great character up until his mother died...and then his mother died. And he's a teenager. Do you really not expect him to go into full-blown angst? Of course he's acting like an angsty teenager, he is an angsty teenager!

  • Aenaos.8160Aenaos.8160 Member ✭✭✭

    If we are lucky he will enlist with one of the orders,and we'll get him out of our,aaahemm,responsibility.
    Best of luck with his issues,and hope he finds someone to be his daddy.
    Maybe Balthazar?
    Then we get to fight and kill them both.
    Awesome!!!!!

  • @Malthurius.6870 said:
    In episode 6, shortly after finishing the task for Dwayna, Taimi calls the player character and has this conversation:

    Taimi: You won't believe what just happened, Commander. Guess. No, never mind, can't wait. Braham sent me a letter.
    Taimi: Would you like me to read it? Of course you would. He says, "Taimi. What did the commander do to Jormag?"
    Taimi: "Destiny's Edge—my guild—had it surrounded, and then... Suddenly, an anguished roar, and it returned to the ice."
    : Stop. Do we have to do this now? I can't deal with both him and Balthazar.
    Taimi: He says the norn want him to kill Jormag. Why oh why did he put his arrow in that tooth?
    : I don't have time for his tantrums. He just didn't think.
    Taimi: And... he didn't ask your permission either.
    : (sigh) I could have protected him from this. He'll either change course, or we'll have to stop him.
    Taimi: But since Jormag's all snoozy, he doesn't have a chance of killing it now, does he?
    : He better not. Talk to him. Maybe you can get him to see reason. It's never too late for him to do the right thing.
    Taimi: I don't know if he has a choice anymore. He's under a lot of pressure to live up to Eir's legend. And, he's so young.
    : Older than you.
    Taimi: Only physically... Taimi out.
    Taimi: Oh, Rox sends her love. Really out.

    So, no confirmation that he's given up, but he can't get to Jormag with him dormant like he is.

    Apparently Braham was very busy off screen.

    Wow how did i miss over all this ? this looks important as i donno what and they just drop a line of text in game? like what the heck? Seriously... all this off screen kitten and we cant even see what happens... Wow...

  • Alga.6498Alga.6498 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2017

    I hope he'll choke on that infused bow, we wont miss him anyway... he can take Taimi with him too. They can be dragon food any day now!

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  • Braham gets angry, kicks at the ground (which is ice), slips, and falls down a crevasse, never to be seen again. He gets replaced by some cool Elonian character a la Koss.

  • eduardo.1436eduardo.1436 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2017

    At the end of HoT Braham supposedly came to terms with his mother death, suddenly he is a jerk to me. I really dont want him on my guild, the damage is done and he actively was like (through taimi's dialogue anyways) "look at my awesome new guild, DE, we are gonna kill the dragon" and in my honest personal opinion out of all the characters introduced in LW S1 Braham's was the weakest:

    • Rox-gladium who wanted to join Rytlock warband.
    • Taimi-orphan who was warded by Zojja and idolizes Scarlet
    • Kasmeer -former noble who is working as a detective with...
    • Marjory -human detective paid by Logan to investigate a crime
    • Evon Gnashblade-bltc owner who runs for a spot on the Captain's Council against....
    • Ellen Kiel-actual winner of the Captain's Council election and former lionguard investigator
    • name-o-tron-former Consortium golem who goes to through many places, jobs, and names
    • Canach-sarcastic outlaw who worked for Consortium to enslave refugees
    • Scarlet Briar-crazy genius Sylvari who completely destroys LA and awakes an elder dragon
    • Frostbite-baby albino devourer who joins Rox after she saves him from an attack in his hatchery
    • *Braham** ............Eir' estranged headstrong son (why not make him regular son and make a joke about how he was never mentioned before?)

    I dont want him dead actually, I just dont want him in my guild if Anet suddenly decides to bring him to our side. If anything at least let me wake up slap him before that at least.

  • bobsort.4097bobsort.4097 Member ✭✭✭

    I thought you are asking when we are going to kill Braham to stop him from killing more dragons and I get excited until I saw you are looking for something else!

  • Just don't want Garm to be on his own again - guess Rox would adopt him if needed.

  • Lumpy Forehead.2193Lumpy Forehead.2193 Member ✭✭
    edited September 21, 2017

    Look at Braham, he looks dark, he has Elonian blood in him. Eir must have had an affair with an Elonian sometime in the past. Braham will venture to Elonia to find his secret father.

  • Oh yes please, kill Braham. He's as bad as Taimi. How were no lessons learned from Destiny's Edge? Why do we need these angst ridden babies? I really wish we'd get ways to deal with them, as in not have my character back down everytime they decide to go off for a cry. If I had my way, Taimi and Braham along with the entirety of Destiny's Edge, including Rytlock, would be pushing up the God damned daisies. The only people left would be Canuck, Caithe and Rox. I'd say Marjory would also be around, but we never see her anyway.

  • Why do people hate Taimi so much?

  • @Fractured.3928 said:
    Why do people hate Taimi so much?

    Don't know, I like her. She's a cute little know-it-all. I like her the most when she badmouthes Phlunt. Gosh, I hate Phlunt.

  • Taimi is annoying, #MakeZojjaGreatAgain

  • @Sazukikrah.5036 said:
    Taimi is annoying, #MakeZojjaGreatAgain

    This is what I mean. When people talk kitten about Braham, they give examples. When they hate on Taimi, they just say "I hate Taimi".

  • I dislike Taimi because she is a cliche within a cliche wrapped in a cliche, whom you are forced to care about. Like Braham, the player has no choice but to put up with her. When she makes a rash decision, you have to go with it. When she acts like a whiney brat, you have to go with it. When the game slaps you in the face with her disability for the umpteenth time, you have to go with it.

  • @Fractured.3928 said:
    This is what I mean. When people talk kitten about Braham, they give examples. When they hate on Taimi, they just say "I hate Taimi".

    Taimi is barely a character tbh. At the moment her purpose is to move the the plot forward at any cost.

  • Am I the only person who wish when we see him during Jormag's arc he will eventually be consume by hatred and fall to the corruption. Then we get to slay him. Makes those who dislike his character happy as well.

  • Chickenooble.5014Chickenooble.5014 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 3, 2017

    @Myrdreth.6829 said:
    He's so whiney, it's unbearable.

    @Malthurius.6870 said:
    Because he had complete disregard for anyone except his own goals, leaving Rox frozen and showing little regret for putting her in danger. He also saw the commander creating a new guild and letting Destiny's Edge be immortalized in time as an insult to his mother, even though it was the opposite. He's also willing to put innocent lives at risk because he personally wants to kill Jormag, even though Taimi had a solution that would theoretically leave no lives at risk.

    Basically, Braham is making bad, irrational, and emotional decisions and is being completely self centered, believing that the dragons are his sole responsibility when it's been proven countless times before that people coming together kills the dragons.

    If he continues to hunt Jormag in the face of the in-stabilization of Tyria, then he'll fall from graces even further.

    And yeah. This too.

    Maybe we'll get to fight Braham in a future Living World episodes.

    Season 4, Episode 3:
    Taimi hears from Braham. He's mad and he still wants to kill Jormag. Taimi 'spergers out and spazzes to the Commander over the phone. The commander and friends head to Hoelbrak to talk to Braham. Braham is Braham and he whines about the commander stealing his right to slay Jormag. Then he blames the Commander for everything; Eir's death, putting Jormag to sleep, stealing his right to slay a dragon and forging a legend within the Norn, etc. Braham says something to the Commander about wishing they would just disappear and stop ruining his life. "You ruin everything." "I hate you." "You're not my mom/dad." Teenage Angst overflow. He heads North. Rox asks that we just give him time to calm down.

    Season 4, Episode 4:
    Driven by his own rage and want for vengeance he is determined to find and destroy a sleeping Jormag. The Commander and friends need to stop him for the same reasons they need to stop Balthazar. They try to reason with Braham but he says, "Braham is Braham" and some other emotionally charged nonsense. They fight. During the fight, when Braham reaches 10% HP he gets desperate. He knows he'll die if he doesn't do something and he, needing more power, turns to Jormag. He then transforms into an ultra-powerful Son of Svanir! Commanding hordes of Svanir they push the Commander out of the Northern Shiverpeaks.

    Season 4, Episode 5:
    Hoelbrak is attacked by Braham and the Svanir through a surprise attack! Knut Whitebear and the Commander have a defensive battle at Hoelbrak. Knut has his children, Skarti and Sigfast, counter-attack the Dragon's Veins at the northern edge of Hoelbrak.
    The Svanir are pouring out of that area. When the Commander and everyone are in there a terrible rumble is outside -- a power Champion of Jormag is descending on Lake Mourn and the Commander has to kill it. During the battle, Skarti dies. Sigfast convinces his father that the Norn need to push North, kill Braham, and finish Jormag. Knut, conflicted over the idea of killing Eir's son, decided to lead the charge to the North with the Wolfborn and leaves Sigfast in charge of Hoelbrak. Rox protests.

    Season 4, Episode 6:
    Knut, the Commander, and the Wolfborn reach the Far Northern Shiverpeaks. Taimi is talking about Jormag stirring in his sleep. They theorize that Jormag is responding to Braham, or that Braham is pulling more power from Jormag. They fight through hordes of Svanir and Champions to finally reach Braham. Braham reveals his plan is to kill Jormag but that Jormag needs to first awaken for them to have a fight. To do that, Braham is going to draw power from Jormag until he hungers for magic. The Commander, Rox and Taimi try to tell Braham that's a bad idea because Braham would be consumed by the Dragon's power. Braham insists he knows what he's doing. Knut attacks Braham and Braham realize that Hoelbrak and the Norn are unified against him. Braham feels isolated and resolves to get revenge on Jormag, the Norn and the Commander. He fights the Commander and through some magic and stuff, he turns Knut into a Svanir. The Commander and the Wolfborn fight Knut whom falls soon after. The Commander fights Braham again and nearly kills him. Braham narrowly escapes, says he needs more of Jormag's power and disappears into a heavy snowstorm. Rox disappears into the snowstorm, too.

    Season 4, Episode 7:
    The Commander brings Knut's body back to Hoelbrak and they have a ceremony. Sigfast is now the leader of Hoelbrak. Sigfast is getting reports of Norn camps getting destroyed in various areas of the Shiverpeaks, north of Hoelbrak. The Commander goes to three settlements to find clues of how they're being destroyed and, at each, the Commander has to fight some powerful Svanir. They return to Hoelbrak. Braham -- completely crystalline with wings and giant claws -- swoops in on Hoelbrak and challenges the Norn to a fight. The Commander et al please with Braham one last time but to no avail. A massive battle happens and Braham is ultimately destroyed. Just them, Taimi prattles on about all the magic that Braham absorbed and that it'll be released back into the system. Like everything else in the game -- big magic release causes some big change. The ground swells and shakes... and far to the north, an explosion is heard. Sigfast says that the Norn need to rebuild and form an army -- that Jormag has awakened and the Norn need to prepare for battle.

    Expansion 3: Path of Ice Features
    * Taimi figures out a way to solve the problem of Jormag being alive but not being able to kill Jormag.
    * We go to the Blood Legion Homelands and find Rox who is doing something.
    * Big maps and stuff.
    * Fewer waypoints.
    * Keychains
    * More material storage (just kidding)
    * A new polar bear mount that charges and does damage to monsters in a line, with more damage to the targeted monster.
    * Tengu because why not?

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2017

    braham is gonna fall to the dark side of the ley energy
    officially calling it

  • STIHL.2489STIHL.2489 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I simply do not, nor will I ever understand the hate upon Trahearne, I mean, lets get real, I as glad he was the leader of the Pact, because kitten all if I wanted to locked into dealing with administrative duties, and listen a bunch of badly written counsel meetings, I'd go back to kitten work. I am more then happy to be the military end of that agreement with Trahearne, I log in to kill things. dangnabit.

    Also my main issue with Taimi is that she is very self centered, putting her research and obsession with Scarlet above the rest of the group, so much so, on more then one occasion she flat out refused to continue to help the team, and instead chose to stay with her 'find', thus making me feel more like a tool she is using to further her exploits then someone she looks up to, maybe that is an Asura thing, but what happened to being loyal to your Krew?

    On top of that, another issues with Taimi is that everything was solved by Magitech, making her an indispensable part of the group, whereas she did not feel that the rest of the group was equally important to her, (I would have loved to see Rox solve probems with her engineering, like she did in Molten Alliance, she goes from a knowledgeable engineer to noting more then a strong arm, thanks to Taimi) if anything, that made dealing with her more annoying then dealing with Trahearne, as at least Trahearne made me feel like I was the catalyst that was making everything happen and putting things into motion, whereas Taimi makes me feel like I am a disposable minion, or pet.

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  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2017

    I hate trahearne so much, seeing him always during personal stories was horrible, at least make a specific pact commander depending on your chosen race... Sylvaris isn't at all my favorite race, I was happy to see him dying, for some peoples it was hard but for me, I was literally free from him when killed him, finally I am the pact commander..! The only satisfying thing I done during HoT! Don't care of mordermoth! Don't understand this hate about dragons! Why hating trahearne? -Sylvari -Must always do like HE thinks, under his orders -Force me to see the Pale tree vision that I don't care about! The story always centered about undead and Zhaïtan, it bore me a lot.. The next story instance so predictable... Always investigate around, report to trahearne, investigate, report... The worst thing was claw Island, why I can't give orders to others soldiers and must wait for MISTER trahearne to give orders? MEH
    I prefer a lot more Taimi and Rox they are great. Also the main flaw of taimi is that she is so humanized, she could say sometimes asuran insult toward Phlunt, no? She almost pronounce any scientific terms or asuran technology related words and she is a kind of Engineer/Scientist, what a joke!

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  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2017

    @Yuyuske.7182 said:
    I think the Braham hate is overstated. He was a great character up until his mother died...and then his mother died. And he's a teenager. Do you really not expect him to go into full-blown angst? Of course he's acting like an angsty teenager, he is an angsty teenager!

    That's my whole point.

    His mother shouldn't have died just to turn him into the aforementioned teenager stereotype.

    Two wrongs make and uber-wrong that is the current Braham characterization.

    And what is worst is that the entire Norn race, story-wise, is now represented by him. Anet hates us.

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • Aomine.5012Aomine.5012 Member ✭✭✭

    @Blackari.2051 said:
    yes you are right in the title, it is NOT bad to kill Braham, in fact everyone would be happy to do so

    Did you know how many times I redo that mission for the achievement of not getting frozen to listen to his terrible and annoying whining?

    I really want him dead in this expansion.

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