Shagie.7612

important to note here that this is about a hammer rev

unfortunately, probably i don't think the scepter's gonna be that big of a deal for most non-support builds unless it's super overtuned the pop on the 2 skill hit decently hard during the beta but i dunno that it'd be worth using over options i don't think it's particularly meant to be either, it's largely a support oriented weapon and should fill that purpose, it doesn't need to be a weapon for dps builds just hoping it doesn't mean more months of waiting for changes to currently underperforming parts of classes

what lol you're all so desperate to be proven right about being singled out and persecuted that you read me saying there's no grand conspiracy against ele as settling for poor game design choices no, you shouldn't settle, they've made a ton of decisions since PoF (arguably HoT but whatever) that were really bad for pvp, and then even worse ones in EoD and SotO but to pretend that the position ele is temporarily in is something unique to them is hilariously pathetic i definitely play the most power crept elite spec in the game

okay but in all seriousness, are you just gonna ignore catalyst's time of being faceroll, both hammer and signet cata even, or the times when weaver was undisputed king sidenoder, or tempest, or whatever other builds existed in an overtuned state sure, some ele builds might be weak right now, but welcome to a game where they don't make changes to things for years at a time ele was overperforming in multiple builds that were just as easy as anything else, it got smacked, now it's weak and has to ride on the bottom of the roller coaster for a while just like everyone else has gone through. honestly it really sucks, it's not fun but it's the reality of a dead game mode that makes them no money but nah it's unique to ele or something why do ele, war and thief players compete so hard to have the biggest victim complex

ur rite the game automatically kicks your dog if you select ele on the character screen

it's like ele players take it as a personal challenge to convince everyone how their class is the worst ever at everything always

ayo bumping this because i wanna play mallyx and yoink people because i think it's much more fun than traditional power rev legends turn renegade into a condi dps that's actually scary instead of it being like 90% torment, 9% bleed and poor condi cover skull grinder straight up does like 9 different condis, meanwhile it's real easy to clean off anything rev does condi herald can remain the sidenoder version LEMME YOINK the weapon patch will probably not have very many balance changes i'm gonna lose it if that's true

idk i'd rather see them re-tackle the unblockable buff again duration based was a huge problem but now you might never make it a choice in your build simply because of the weapon you use and how disproportionally affected by number of hits your build is single heavy hit? great, super value tons of small hits on your attack? useless

who hurt you

shouldn't have put weaponmaster training in pvp balance would be even better

stop getting double gunflamed lol

strongly disagree with all of the weapons their damage and features were tuned around their respective elite specs giving condi reaper pistol and torch? giving mirage an ambush that dazes, or shield to virt/mirage, herald and vindi shortbow, staff and dagger plus their ambushes to untamed, and imo even longbow to willbender, a spec balanced around the ability to kite its melee damage, were all massive mistakes and are still troublesome for balance and have in some builds completely made other weapons obsolete

bola posting

honestly wasn't an insult fb was pretty bad lol, nothing you could really do about it whether you're practiced or not just meant it more as, it also has extra projectile hate and it still wasn't enough for the centaur build to accomplish much. off-meta builds are cool but they need a purpose and some sort of niche strength (like say, condi ranger's situational strengths and matchups, when it works it does a LOT of work) and i don't think these hybridy kind of rev builds do very well at that in the current game. they just kinda exist My problem with it is that it's just objectively superior to Herald and Renegade and still, after all the nerfs, gets away with things that are an immediate loss on any other Rev build. I think weaponmaster training was a mistake in general and then they got Heartpiercer for free on top of that? Disgusting. I also think all of the modified dodge specs are troublesome for balance and are a mistake tbh but that's a game wide thing.

eu account's a different name but no, 99% of renegades are people who don't know any better tbh, there's roughly zero people who play it seriously (cause it's bad lol, especially now that vindi can get shortbow+pierce at no cost) every time i've seen someone on this including you it's just gotten immediately eaten by any sort of competent +1er even when you guys were firebrand/centaur which has a ton of proj hate it didn't help in teamfights either i don't think these kinds of hybrid builds work well on rev, playing it as something other than dev vindi right now isn't worthwhile unfortunately and the monthlies and high ratings largely support that

it was literally you and him

nah, if i can sit there on node and facetank it for relatively long periods of time as devastation renegade, one of the lowest sustain specs in the game, it's low damage lol and that's exactly what's happened every time like, you and flowki both play these builds and they just do nothing but get +1'd and die they're... fine i guess 1v1, i'd eventually die as i should, but that's it i do get it tho that it's probably considerably more fun than playing a traditional sidenode build like cherald what's also real deadly is a regular teamfight rev build like vindicator murdering people, especially shortbow/gs vindi

don't think "decent damage" is a very accurate description here tbh it's very low

Sure? The best thing they could do right now is redistribute the percentages of players at any given rating (and probably make the median NOT 1200 lol) and clamp how wide the search can expand to over time. Queues would get longer, but you'd have less matches where a silver player gets thrown up against a plat who had a 10 minute queue. Neither of those would what you're complaining about, you'd still eventually hit the same win rates. Go ahead, propose a change that would fix your "forced 50/50" problem that still retains some sort of skill based matchmaking system. I wanna see you do it, I wanna see you come up with one. Explain how it would work.

do you understand the words you are saying

Literally every single rating based matchmaker is going to trend you towards 50/50 as you approach wherever your skill level is at, actually You clearly don't.

what a way to let everyone know that you have no understanding of how or why a matchmaking system works the way it does truly a genius for the ages

i'm not sure they like confusion existing anymore tbh the swing in damage from one boss to another makes it really hard to tune in a way that torment, the other conditional condi, doesn't suffer from since boss movement is so much less frequent but yeahhh, condi rev's cover conditions are like nonexistent and playing it as anything but sidenode herald is real rough meanwhile a single skull grinder inflicts like 8 different things if akeem procs? lol

all thief players deserve bans yes crime doesn't pay, nerds become a respectable member of society

its always morally correct to nerf thief they deserve it