Naracion.6597 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 After some testing I am confused about where the 7% damage increase is applied? I did an auto attack on the dps golem with and without a facet activated and with and without this trait selected and the only difference I saw was the 2% increase when the trait is selected and comparing if a facet is activated or not. Am I missing something?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Herald upkeeps count as 2% each, stacking. It's right in the patch notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naracion.6597 Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 i got the 2% thing. I am asking about the 7% that is talked about in the patch notes and where exactly it is applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealandur.1876 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 The 7% is applied on upkeep skill that are on the other Legends, for example Jallis' Hammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Forced PersistenceDeal increased damage while you have an active upkeep skill.Herald upkeep skills grant less damage but can be stacked.Damage increase: 7%Herald skill Damage increase: 2%How hard is that to follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naracion.6597 Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 @Lahmia.2193 said:Forced PersistenceDeal increased damage while you have an active upkeep skill.Herald upkeep skills grant less damage but can be stacked.Damage increase: 7%Herald skill Damage increase: 2%How hard is that to follow?I wouldnt be making a post about being confused about a specific part of that if I thought it was clear. God forbid I have questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanskanen.5629 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Each of the glint legend upkeeps grant you a 2% damage increase (afaik the F2 ability included),while every other upkeep (shiro quickness, jalis hammers, etc.) give you a straight 7% damage increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 7% damage increase is while you have either shiro quickness, jalis hammers, or ventari projectile dome active. For glint skills, since every skill is an upkeep, you get 2% per skill you have turned in. So if you just have one facet active, you get 2% damage increase. Since you can have 4 facets active at once you can get a max of 8% damage increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kholem.6092 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Or Mallyx. Which I quite like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orisci.6527 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Does this only work on power damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanskanen.5629 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 @orisci.6527 said:Does this only work on power damage?Seeing how anet loves their condis, it's most certainly not exclusive to power damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqueFyre.5678 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 @Crayth.3276 said:@orisci.6527 said:Does this only work on power damage?Seeing how anet loves their condis, it's most certainly not exclusive to power damage.Skills that increase Condi Damage specifically state so in the tool tip, this is across the board, this does not state that so it most likely doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilku.9764 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I'm afraid to ask, becasue clearly it's an old post and everybody has it figured out and is so smart here, but let me try anyway:Should I see Forceful Persistence icon appear along other effects? Like Hardening Persistence or Steadfast Rejuvenation?Because when I activate any number of Facets, I can't get the Forceful Persistence to show up, nor to influence the stats shown on any of the atacks I have.At the same time both Hardening Persistence and Steadfast Rejuvenation appear, along with the number of stacks.Or is this Forceful Persistence working with all skills BUT Facets? then what are Herald's upkeep skills?I wish one day this game was not all about wiki and forums, but the actual well-described-in-game gameplay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 @wilku.9764 said:I'm afraid to ask, becasue clearly it's an old post and everybody has it figured out and is so smart here, but let me try anyway:Should I see Forceful Persistence icon appear along other effects? Like Hardening Persistence or Steadfast Rejuvenation?Because when I activate any number of Facets, I can't get the Forceful Persistence to show up, nor to influence the stats shown on any of the atacks I have.At the same time both Hardening Persistence and Steadfast Rejuvenation appear, along with the number of stacks.Or is this Forceful Persistence working with all skills BUT Facets? then what are Herald's upkeep skills?I wish one day this game was not all about wiki and forums, but the actual well-described-in-game gameplay...Forceful Persistence doesn’t have an icon for the buff bar. If you want to test the damage increase for yourself you can go to the training golem in the Aerodrome, give yourself the basic raid buffs like quickness/might/fury and do auto attack tests on the golem with and without any facets active. Unless there is a bug you’ll get higher numbers with facets active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virdo.1540 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 @orisci.6527 said:Does this only work on power damage?yes, only power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobber.6348 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:Forceful Persistence doesn’t have an icon for the buff bar. If you want to test the damage increase for yourself you can go to the training golem in the Aerodrome, give yourself the basic raid buffs like quickness/might/fury and do auto attack tests on the golem with and without any facets active. Unless there is a bug you’ll get higher numbers with facets active. Brings up a good QoL point :They should make all persistence skills show up as buffs on the Hotbar. If not for anything else, for clarity's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @Yasai.3549 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:Forceful Persistence doesn’t have an icon for the buff bar. If you want to test the damage increase for yourself you can go to the training golem in the Aerodrome, give yourself the basic raid buffs like quickness/might/fury and do auto attack tests on the golem with and without any facets active. Unless there is a bug you’ll get higher numbers with facets active. Brings up a good QoL point :They should make all persistence skills show up as buffs on the Hotbar. If not for anything else, for clarity's sake. Eh, the clutter is already insanely high on the hotbars I think that would be a bad change. Was literally in fractals yesterday with an FB that had his bar touching the middle of my screen from all the buffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobber.6348 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:Eh, the clutter is already insanely high on the hotbars I think that would be a bad change. Was literally in fractals yesterday with an FB that had his bar touching the middle of my screen from all the buffsTell Anet to fix their UI :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @Yasai.3549 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:Eh, the clutter is already insanely high on the hotbars I think that would be a bad change. Was literally in fractals yesterday with an FB that had his bar touching the middle of my screen from all the buffsTell Anet to fix their UI :p Would love for that to happen, but I’m not too hopeful ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virdo.1540 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:@Yasai.3549 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:Eh, the clutter is already insanely high on the hotbars I think that would be a bad change. Was literally in fractals yesterday with an FB that had his bar touching the middle of my screen from all the buffsTell Anet to fix their UI :p Would love for that to happen, but I’m not too hopeful ?why dont u use the other group ui then? where u dont see other peoples hotbar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @Virdo.1540 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:@Yasai.3549 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:Eh, the clutter is already insanely high on the hotbars I think that would be a bad change. Was literally in fractals yesterday with an FB that had his bar touching the middle of my screen from all the buffsTell Anet to fix their UI :p Would love for that to happen, but I’m not too hopeful ?why dont u use the other group ui then? where u dont see other peoples hotbarWhich Ui would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 @LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:@Virdo.1540 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:@Yasai.3549 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:Eh, the clutter is already insanely high on the hotbars I think that would be a bad change. Was literally in fractals yesterday with an FB that had his bar touching the middle of my screen from all the buffsTell Anet to fix their UI :p Would love for that to happen, but I’m not too hopeful ?why dont u use the other group ui then? where u dont see other peoples hotbarWhich Ui would that be? The grid, probably? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @Sobx.1758 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:@Virdo.1540 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:@Yasai.3549 said:@LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:Eh, the clutter is already insanely high on the hotbars I think that would be a bad change. Was literally in fractals yesterday with an FB that had his bar touching the middle of my screen from all the buffsTell Anet to fix their UI :p Would love for that to happen, but I’m not too hopeful ?why dont u use the other group ui then? where u dont see other peoples hotbarWhich Ui would that be? The grid, probably?Naw I found what Virdo was talking about it’s the “simple party Ui” option which is the type of party Ui PvP has. Unfortunately it doesn’t really solve the issue because it only shows boons/condis and omits other important Information useful for some fractals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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