andreiblue.8231 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Do you think super rare infusions like chak, confetti, khan ur, etc should be added to black lion chests as rare or super rare possible rewards? I think it would increase the sources of the infusions and make them more available while increasing profits for anet since people will buy more gems to get keys to try to get the infusions from the chests. P.S: for the infusion haters, keep asking anet for the option to turn the effects off instead of attacking people who like them. 4 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I don't think it's a good idea. Some players already claim gw2 is pay to win. Lets not give them more reasons to say so by adding infusions with stats to black lion chests. 7 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Adding them, but making them soulbound would be funny. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 So, if a given infusion costs 10k gold right now, and the current conversion rate works out to approximately $.07 per gold, the cost should be something in the order of $700.00. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 One of the complaints I see frequently in the forums is that, "All of the rewards in GW2 are purchasable in the store rather than earned in game." Infusions are a notable exception to what many see -- rightly or wrongly -- as an overwhelming trend. The OP's notion would definitely add fuel to that fire. While I can understand the OP's desire to obtain a desired infusion by spending rather than playing, I'm concerned that were ANet to comply, they would be removing an incentive tor repeat older content, and that is definitely not in the best interests of the game. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Farohna.6247 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Freya.9075 said: I don't think it's a good idea. Some players already claim gw2 is pay to win. Lets not give them more reasons to say so by adding infusions with stats to black lion chests. This. There's already enough black lion exclusives. Also it gives reasons for people to do metas or bosses. You can already buy them off the trading post, that's enough for the credit card warriors to work with. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luks.4230 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 so you asking for more lootboxes? great idea lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreiblue.8231 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 hours ago, IndigoSundown.5419 said: One of the complaints I see frequently in the forums is that, "All of the rewards in GW2 are purchasable in the store rather than earned in game." Infusions are a notable exception to what many see -- rightly or wrongly -- as an overwhelming trend. The OP's notion would definitely add fuel to that fire. While I can understand the OP's desire to obtain a desired infusion by spending rather than playing, I'm concerned that were ANet to comply, they would be removing an incentive tor repeat older content, and that is definitely not in the best interests of the game. You don't really "earn" it, you just get it by pure luck, people will probably still do the metas to try to get it, the lootboxes from the 4 winds festival didnt make the infusion prices drop. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreiblue.8231 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Farohna.6247 said: This. There's already enough black lion exclusives. Also it gives reasons for people to do metas or bosses. You can already buy them off the trading post, that's enough for the credit card warriors to work with. The people who say that obviously have no idea what pay to win means. Infusions are just fancy skins, they dont give you anything more than an infusion with the same stats would give you except for the effect. You dont have to pay to have the best equipment in the game, you can get it by playing, black lion exclusives are just fancy skins, you dont need them for any reason other than to customise your character more while there are already thousands of skins in the game to choose from. Skins and effect from gemstore and black lion chests =/=pay to win. Those who think that are complete morons. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreiblue.8231 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, Luks.4230 said: so you asking for more lootboxes? great idea lol BLC are a lootbox, I ask for them to add more possible rewards to it. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luks.4230 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) yeah but we would need another type of lootbox because infusions have stats, right? so we would need a gearlootbox. maybe also add legendarys. great idea, i like it Edited October 9, 2022 by Luks.4230 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farohna.6247 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, andreiblue.8231 said: The people who say that obviously have no idea what pay to win means. Infusions are just fancy skins, they dont give you anything more than an infusion with the same stats would give you except for the effect. You dont have to pay to have the best equipment in the game, you can get it by playing, black lion exclusives are just fancy skins, you dont need them for any reason other than to customise your character more while there are already thousands of skins in the game to choose from. Skins and effect from gemstore and black lion chests =/=pay to win. Those who think that are complete morons. One could argue that the loot dropped from end game content is the end goal. Therefore it wouldn't make sense to have infusions available from a loot box with the purchase of keys. While it's not pay to win in the sense of having an edge over someone else, it is pay to get a cosmetic that other showed up and played the game for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luks.4230 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Farohna.6247 said: While it's not pay to win in the sense of having an edge over someone else.. it is... infusion have stats. it would be pay to win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, andreiblue.8231 said: The people who say that obviously have no idea what pay to win means. Infusions are just fancy skins, they dont give you anything more than an infusion with the same stats would give you except for the effect. You dont have to pay to have the best equipment in the game, you can get it by playing, black lion exclusives are just fancy skins, you dont need them for any reason other than to customise your character more while there are already thousands of skins in the game to choose from. Skins and effect from gemstore and black lion chests =/=pay to win. Those who think that are complete morons. Dont those infusions have stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowmoon.7986 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gnashblade_Zephyrite_Supply_Box Already being done, its just seasonal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farohna.6247 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, Luks.4230 said: it is... infusion have stats. it would be pay to win Oop my error, forgot they do. Thank you for the correction! OP, that is indeed pay to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Sure go ahead. It'd literally make no difference since they still wont drop. XD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
god fragment.5716 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Technically there are infusions in BL chests during festivals. There are guaranteed chests that can drop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donari.5237 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Besides the other reasons against it in this thread, I don't like the idea of diluting the permanent expresses. Of which I think I've gotten one, maybe, in 10 years of opening chests. (I don't recall if I did or not, it might have been a merchant express that I sold, the only two that have interested me were hair kit -- eventually I purchased one -- and bank express, still waiting for that to drop). I mean sure, I would probably sell an infusion to cover buying a bank express, assuming similar rates, but the super rare drops are impossibly hard as it is without flinging more things into the mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreiblue.8231 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 9:23 PM, Farohna.6247 said: One could argue that the loot dropped from end game content is the end goal. Therefore it wouldn't make sense to have infusions available from a loot box with the purchase of keys. While it's not pay to win in the sense of having an edge over someone else, it is pay to get a cosmetic that other showed up and played the game for. You can already buy it from the trading post by buying gems and converting them to gems so... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farohna.6247 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, andreiblue.8231 said: You can already buy it from the trading post by buying gems and converting them to gems so... You can, so there is no need for yet another avenue. Also that would be a guarantee, not a random loot box. The conversion to good is dreadful, but it's someone's choice how to spend their time or money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreiblue.8231 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 9:26 PM, Luks.4230 said: it is... infusion have stats. it would be pay to win Most other infusions have stats and some of them can be bought for less than 50 gold... how WOULD it be pay to win if you can ALREADY buy them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreiblue.8231 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Farohna.6247 said: You can, so there is no need for yet another avenue. Also that would be a guarantee, not a random loot box. The conversion to good is dreadful, but it's someone's choice how to spend their time or money It would increase sources of the infusion and increase purchases of keys so it's not like anet has a good reason not to do it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farohna.6247 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, andreiblue.8231 said: It would increase sources of the infusion and increase purchases of keys so it's not like anet has a good reason not to do it. But it would decrease the daily log in for people who get on to farm those drops. They do want you to play the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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