whooot.5784 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Block block invu block invu invu invu block dodge block invu blind blind dodge block block invu invu blind dodge block... I mean, come on guys, plz could you just die faster ? I would Highly appreciate that, thanks you. 4 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Someone here just got Virtuoso'd in their face. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whooot.5784 Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 Haha yeah, but joke aside, everone seems have billions things to negate damage in so many ways 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethekey.8314 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 If a tree falls in the woods, and no one is around to see it, does a Virtuoso still block? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shion.2084 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I was playing unranked and decided to chase down a mez who was enacting a "strategic retreat". So after like 30 seconds of chasing him all over the map and having nothing land due to block, port away, go invisible, invulnerable, evade(?), I finally time it exactly right and get him. He complains that superspeed is "over powered". I wrote back... port is overpowered. I suppose he just wanted to be completely unkillable and be free to disengage and re-engage at any time. Like literally it would have been a totally bad play in any competitive match for me to have hunted him across the map and back and that's what it took to get the kill. A good mez is basically unbeatable by me, I just try to out rotate them and go somewhere else. This guy was quite good... Tolkien underfoot or something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Meta.3158 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, shion.2084 said: I was playing unranked and decided to chase down a mez who was enacting a "strategic retreat". So after like 30 seconds of chasing him all over the map and having nothing land due to block, port away, go invisible, invulnerable, evade(?), I finally time it exactly right and get him. He complains that superspeed is "over powered". I wrote back... port is overpowered. I suppose he just wanted to be completely unkillable and be free to disengage and re-engage at any time. Like literally it would have been a totally bad play in any competitive match for me to have hunted him across the map and back and that's what it took to get the kill. A good mez is basically unbeatable by me, I just try to out rotate them and go somewhere else. This guy was quite good... Tolkien underfoot or something. He should learn d/p daredevil then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopamine.6324 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 i really find this build super fun and interactive, its super good for paralympics aswell no wonder so many players are using it 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranyics.8256 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I'm trying holosmith now, and I find it very hard to survive, I dont have invulns. I have a stun break and a heal, and some sort of shield, but really... where is the survive button on this thing? What are you other holos doing? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, aranyics.8256 said: What are you other holos doing? Staying at home? 😉😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, aranyics.8256 said: I'm trying holosmith now, and I find it very hard to survive, I dont have invulns. I have a stun break and a heal, and some sort of shield, but really... where is the survive button on this thing? What are you other holos doing? What build are you using? The tools holo build comes with 3 blocks in the kit: shield 5, toolkit 4, photon wall (utility skill). Then you also get a projectile reflect on shield 4, in case you have to defend against ranged attackers only. But yeah, that's pretty much it. With good kiting you can survive quite some time with these 3 blocks, tho. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranyics.8256 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kodama.6453 said: What build are you using? The tools holo build comes with 3 blocks in the kit: shield 5, toolkit 4, photon wall (utility skill). Then you also get a projectile reflect on shield 4, in case you have to defend against ranged attackers only. But yeah, that's pretty much it. With good kiting you can survive quite some time with these 3 blocks, tho. I'm trying this now: GW2 | HOLOSMITH PvP BUFFS ARE FANTASTIC - YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, shion.2084 said: I was playing unranked and decided to chase down a mez who was enacting a "strategic retreat". So after like 30 seconds of chasing him all over the map and having nothing land due to block, port away, go invisible, invulnerable, evade(?), I finally time it exactly right and get him. He complains that superspeed is "over powered". I wrote back... port is overpowered. I suppose he just wanted to be completely unkillable and be free to disengage and re-engage at any time. Like literally it would have been a totally bad play in any competitive match for me to have hunted him across the map and back and that's what it took to get the kill. A good mez is basically unbeatable by me, I just try to out rotate them and go somewhere else. This guy was quite good... Tolkien underfoot or something. He doesn't even run Virtuoso, he runs Core Mesmer. He has only a small fraction of the potential defenses Virtuoso can front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shion.2084 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: He doesn't even run Virtuoso, he runs Core Mesmer. He has only a small fraction of the potential defenses Virtuoso can front. Yeah I know... and still that hard to pin down... I should have mentioned. He might have been chrono... can't recall. That or core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 How to fix this: get a scrapper stealth yourself and oneshot His kitten before He can even react xD! I could See nee mAT been Omega Clown Fiesta with scrappers and Hammer catas only where both Teams are running around Points and spaming broken Skills Just to random oneshot enemys Team ..... Kekw you hear it here First xD 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: Someone here just got Virtuoso'd in their face. Pretty sure this applies to guardian, ele, other mesmer elites maybe even if you decide to nitpicky vindicator and spellbreaker but for these you can still get attacks in. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 this is guardian, ele, warrior, virt, and vindi. 3 hours ago, aranyics.8256 said: I'm trying holosmith now, and I find it very hard to survive, I dont have invulns. I have a stun break and a heal, and some sort of shield, but really... where is the survive button on this thing? What are you other holos doing? to survive with holo your offense is your defense. you force them defensive by doing insane damage and lots of CC. your defensives are both shield blocks, photon wall, and tool kit block. then disengaging and using your burst again. i have a really hard time beating a great holo no matter what i play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Meta.3158 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Eddie.9143 said: this is guardian, ele, warrior, virt, and vindi. to survive with holo your offense is your defense. you force them defensive by doing insane damage and lots of CC. your defensives are both shield blocks, photon wall, and tool kit block. then disengaging and using your burst again. i have a really hard time beating a great holo no matter what i play. Holosmith is the best 1v1 duelist class in the game by wide margin. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilesoldier.9826 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Meta.3158 said: Holosmith is the best 1v1 duelist class in the game by wide margin. Slick shoes is a truly demonic skill and I play Mallyx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, aranyics.8256 said: I'm trying this now: GW2 | HOLOSMITH PvP BUFFS ARE FANTASTIC - YouTube Well, that certainly explains why you feel so defenseless. Your only defensive cooldown in that build is photon wall. Rifle is defenseless, rifle turret doesn't provide any either. The low cooldown toolbelt skills might be fun for frequent bursting thanks to static discharge, but making yourself open that much for attacks is not worth it imo. I personally recommend this build: sword tools holo More personal defense thanks to 2 additional blocks, as I have described before. Amazing burst potential. Really good condi cleanse (coolant blast toolbelt skill cleanses up to 6 conditions on high heat! and every other toolbelt skill cleanses one, too). Great CC to keep enemies stunlocked, including 2 unblockable CCs (magnet, aka toolkit 5 and prime light beam). It is a really great build and will increase your survivability alot. If you want a bit more burst damage, you can also swap out blast shield with aim-assisted rocket. Edited March 9, 2023 by Kodama.6453 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranyics.8256 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 16 hours ago, Eddie.9143 said: to survive with holo your offense is your defense. you force them defensive by doing insane damage and lots of CC. your defensives are both shield blocks, photon wall, and tool kit block. then disengaging and using your burst again. Yes, this was my impression as well, get in for some damage and then disengage 11 hours ago, Kodama.6453 said: Well, that certainly explains why you feel so defenseless. Your only defensive cooldown in that build is photon wall. Rifle is defenseless, rifle turret doesn't provide any either. The low cooldown toolbelt skills might be fun for frequent bursting thanks to static discharge, but making yourself open that much for attacks is not worth it imo. I personally recommend this build: sword tools holo More personal defense thanks to 2 additional blocks, as I have described before. Amazing burst potential. Really good condi cleanse (coolant blast toolbelt skill cleanses up to 6 conditions on high heat! and every other toolbelt skill cleanses one, too). Great CC to keep enemies stunlocked, including 2 unblockable CCs (magnet, aka toolkit 5 and prime light beam). It is a really great build and will increase your survivability alot. If you want a bit more burst damage, you can also swap out blast shield with aim-assisted rocket. Thank you, things are much clearer now. I'll take a look at the build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myst.5783 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 They're annoying to kill, but they don't do anything? What exactly does a virtuoso do besides be annoying? Not a class I'm scared of going into a fight. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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