Surve.5926 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Seriously, hopping around and missing your dodges and position, dodging too far and pass the mobs and missing completely. or dodging into boss aoe and dying. So instead of fixing this, thief was ignored and vindicator gets the controlled dodge in place.... It's actually frustrating to place staff daredevil where you have to dodge every 5 secs. Make them both dodge similar PLEASE!!!!!! 2 1 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I prefer Daredevil's dodges. The horrendous dodges are the biggest reason I dislike Vindicator. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZvolTx.3165 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I'm okay with them being different. Inconvenient for organized PvE, yes. Not an issue otherwise really. Id rather they just buff the class to make things like your complaint less impactful on class performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poki.8235 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I'll just leave this here: https://imgur.com/WqT3EIb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Darkblight.1673 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 9 minutes ago, Poki.8235 said: I'll just leave this here: https://imgur.com/WqT3EIb Leap finisher probably needs a nerf tbf 👀 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) On 3/27/2024 at 12:48 PM, Remus Darkblight.1673 said: Leap finisher probably needs a nerf tbf 👀 The leap doesn't even work properly in group play though due to a longrunning bug that's rather frustrating. But too many Thieves are content with being loners or simply don't play these kinda builds to care enough to push a fix, I guess. A lot of people requested a 'dodge in-place or in direction pressed' when daredevil released. They listened and then gave it to Revenant. A lot of people requested Daredevil dodge traits be F skills instead or allow switching between dodge types with an F key. They listened and then gave it to Guardian. so like, whatever, Anet. 🤷♂️ Edited April 2 by Doggie.3184 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Darkblight.1673 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 40 minutes ago, Doggie.3184 said: The leap doesn't even work properly in group play though due to a longrunning bug that's rather frustrating. But too many Thieves are content with being loners or simply don't play these kinda builds to care enough to push a fix, I guess. A lot of people requested a 'dodge in-place or in direction pressed' when daredevil released. They listened and then gave it to Revenant. A lot of people requested Daredevil dodge traits be F skills instead or allow switching between dodge types with an F key. They listened and then gave it to Guardian. so like, whatever. 🤷♂️ I was joking, since the leap is the only thing it has over Vindicator dodge in the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo G.4501 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 hours ago, cjttruelife.9172 said: Forerunner of death REPLACES dodge, It should also remove a dodge (only 1 dodge) to balance it better with similar dodge mechanics LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. Even with only 1 dodge, Vindi was pogo-ing all over the place, but now it's just creeping the dodge roll meta with the only inconvenience being it slows down your rotation cause you can't do stuff while in the air. Imagine the devs trying to introduce another e-spec with a unique dodge lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny.9834 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 yeah good luck landing Bound in PvP it's so horrible lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) On 5/2/2024 at 11:12 PM, Bunny.9834 said: yeah good luck landing Bound in PvP it's so horrible lol. It was good when bound and interrupts with pulmonary impact still did damage, as you could at least chain the bound with steal to make sure both hit and get a respectable amount of damage for your trouble. But yeah, not worth it these days except for the leap. On 3/28/2024 at 4:16 PM, Doggie.3184 said: The leap doesn't even work properly in group play though due to a longrunning bug that's rather frustrating. But too many Thieves are content with being loners or simply don't play these kinda builds to care enough to push a fix, I guess. Tbh a lot of us have just learned through experience that Anet don't care to fix the bugs with thief unless they work in our favour, and just accepted that it's going to remain broken. Edit: Now that I think about it, I remember back in vanilla not liking D/P in groups in WvW because water fields from allies overwrote my smoke fields when using heartseeker, resulting in no stealth. No idea if they ever fixed that or if it just became a non issue when groups stopped relying on water fields for healing. Edited May 15 by Jugglemonkey.8741 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasdamas Anklast.1607 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 15 hours ago, Jugglemonkey.8741 said: Tbh a lot of us have just learned through experience that Anet don't care to fix the bugs with thief unless they work in our favour, and just accepted that it's going to remain broken. Edit: Now that I think about it, I remember back in vanilla not liking D/P in groups in WvW because water fields from allies overwrote my smoke fields when using heartseeker, resulting in no stealth. No idea if they ever fixed that or if it just became a non issue when groups stopped relying on water fields for healing. Speaking of bugs and smoke fields. There is still that bug that allows you to gain stealth with dagger 2 when you aren't even inside it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bq pd.2148 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said: Speaking of bugs and smoke fields. There is still that bug that allows you to gain stealth with dagger 2 when you aren't even inside it. its not only dagger 2, but also rifle standing 4 and works on any combo field, unless you mean a different bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/16/2024 at 1:32 PM, Vasdamas Anklast.1607 said: Speaking of bugs and smoke fields. There is still that bug that allows you to gain stealth with dagger 2 when you aren't even inside it. On 5/16/2024 at 3:52 PM, bq pd.2148 said: its not only dagger 2, but also rifle standing 4 and works on any combo field, unless you mean a different bug. I know that if any part of the leap goes into a combo field you'll get the finisher, we're talking about something besides leaping into a field from outside it? Just to be clear etc, as honestly I don't know about this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightPath.3972 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Of all the things a rev is literally the last i would consider unfair/op when matched with thief's own kit. I'll take thief's uncontrollable dodge any day if it means having the freedoms it has compared to rev. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasdamas Anklast.1607 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 hours ago, Jugglemonkey.8741 said: I know that if any part of the leap goes into a combo field you'll get the finisher, we're talking about something besides leaping into a field from outside it? Just to be clear etc, as honestly I don't know about this one Nope, not that. I'll just show you ingame I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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