WvW Legendary Armor

[Voltekka.2375]

@juno.1840 said:Cost per piece of legendary armor is in the 400-500g range when you consider the cost of clovers.

The cost to craft a first generation legendary is roughly 1600g (yeah it's 2600g if you buy it off the TP) -- this includes the price of a precursor (on average).

Regardless the investment in legendary armor is not small.

Cost per piece is within the 310-330 range, depending on some materials' price fluctuation,according to gw2efficiency, clovers included. Besides, a clover is worth about 5.5g.

[Justine.6351]

@starlinvf.1358 said:

@Justine.6351 said:

@starlinvf.1358 said:

@Justine.6351 said:tbh I think you and anyone else really should be focusing on getting mistforged triumphant hero's armor before they start to think legendary armor. At minimum the Triumphant Hero's Ascended version is needed for creating the legendary armor anyhow. The reason I think mistforged triumphant hero armor should be your target goal is because it is much more feasible and it will be a lot less painful when some day you decide you don't want to play a light armor class anymore.

Also note that legendary version does not unlock any special skin, not even the mistforged triumphant skin if upgrading from regular triumphant.

You really only should be looking at legendary wvw armor if you have nothing better to do with your materials and your current gear is already gg end game. For that we are talking ascended armor and weapons, infused ascended back pack (2 infusion slots) and attuned infused rings (3 slots each). You can purchase with tickets 6 sets of crafted triumphant armor for the same ticket cost as legendary or you can buy 4 sets of mistforged triumphant for the same ticket cost as legendary. This excludes regular legendary material costs which are exuberant. As far as I know runes are not redeemable from wvw legendary armor at this time.

The number of people who can legitimately claim to put wvw legendary armor to reasonable use I could probably count on one hand as they are the players who do something like glass builds in highend pve and when entering wvw need just a little more survivability by changing that gear to something with a defensive stat without wanting to change runes AND just not having the inventory space to manage another 6 pieces of gear. But you see, those people that play highend pve are probably more likely to be looking at raid legendary armor which does have rune return and a fancy new skin.

Just my thoughts before you go any deeper into the money pit that is wvw legendary armor which btw, you havn't even scratched 1%

One thing though..... Mist Forged requires 1200-2000 WvW rank to even have available. Getting that much rank takes a couple years unless you're running boosters all the time, and are on a server that does mostly blob fights AND WINS THEM.

The reasoning for most people trying to get Legendary armor is the easy repurposing it enables, literally gives access to new stats on day 1 of an Expansion, and has zero costs to re-stat if the meta shifts in the following balance passes. The cost savings is non-existent (unless you're looking at 5+ years out), but the upfront ease of use and zero down time during Expansions is substantial. Especially on classes prone to violent stat shifts with their Espec releases.

Erm, you are not going to get legendary armor over night. It will take 1-2 years. Each piece is a full blown legendary in price.Erm you can just save up your grandmaster Mark shards u til next expansion and just buy new sets upfront. Once you are rank 2k mistforged is as free as how many tickets and memories of battle you have. I have boughten FOUR sets of mistforged armor so far. And trust me, the number of viable gear stat sets is not going to improve much going forward.

1-2 years? Each piece is a full blown legendary in price? You might wanna recheck your math. Just for the sake of argument, a Gen 2.5 Legendary has a normal cost of 2300-2500g (its cheaper right now thanks to Istan feeding the materials market). The current cost of promotion for a PIECE of WvW legendary armor is 350g. Times 6 thats roughly 2100 gold to promote a set up to Legendary. Since the T2 costs 150g (total) in memories and 220g in marks (if crafting them), thats an extra 370g for the armor set. T3 armor 300g for the Memories, and doesn't cost marks. Both armor tiers also cost 13g (per set) in the vendor cost.

So at its most expensive, its about 2483 gold for a T2 Legendary armor set, sans crafting leveling cost and gearing cost for WvW in the mean time.

On the subject of time, barring WvW rank requirements, it would still take you less then a year to afford the gold needed to do this- unless you're actively spending it on other things, or not selling mats that aren't used in the Marks production. You're also making an assumption that the meta doesn't change enough to warrant re-stating gear; but thats only ever been true on 2 classes (thief and Warrior), and Post-PF meta is now using stats that were previous ignored through most of HOT, not to mention bringing back Celestials after it was thought to be completely irrelevant for the meta, plus 4 more classes potentially being able to use it if a balance pass enables. POF brought more drastic stat changes then HOT did, and the Devs seem intent on trying to pull more support stat combinations into the meta..... so theres no telling what the next expansion might bring.

So unless you're completely narrowing your argument to only concern per character cost efficiency, the Legendary armor set is expensive, but has significant value. And when we have enough Especs and game modes to warrant 4 builds per character, Legendary armor can cover its own costs.

Oh yeah it's not as bad as I thought. Looks like 2/5 pricing. Ty for info.

[waterGate.6137]

Hi there

I am a new player and lose player here.One simple quest.. the legendary armor for Pve, pvp and wvw can all be cross use?If get, which is a more easy set?

I think if we want to stay in this guild wars 2 game... somehow the legendary set is needed...

Thanks in advance

[Dawdler.8521]

@waterGate.6137 said:Hi there

I am a new player and lose player here.One simple quest.. the legendary armor for Pve, pvp and wvw can all be cross use?If get, which is a more easy set?

I think if we want to stay in this guild wars 2 game... somehow the legendary set is needed...

Thanks in advanceYou think wrong.

Legendary is just ascended with free stats change. Its a luxuary item and endgame goal when you got little else to do. If you dont change stats every week, its a complete waste of gold.

[Sleepwalker.1398]

You can use this link to see what mats you need.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor

Just 1 tip OP, do not salvage your mistforged triumphant ascended armor to get Ball of Dark Energy.You need that armor together with all the items to throw in the mystic toilet to get legendary version.

[AliamRationem.5172]

@Justine.6351 said:tbh I think you and anyone else really should be focusing on getting mistforged triumphant hero's armor before they start to think legendary armor. At minimum the Triumphant Hero's Ascended version is needed for creating the legendary armor anyhow. The reason I think mistforged triumphant hero armor should be your target goal is because it is much more feasible and it will be a lot less painful when some day you decide you don't want to play a light armor class anymore.

Also note that legendary version does not unlock any special skin, not even the mistforged triumphant skin if upgrading from regular triumphant.

You really only should be looking at legendary wvw armor if you have nothing better to do with your materials and your current gear is already gg end game. For that we are talking ascended armor and weapons, infused ascended back pack (2 infusion slots) and attuned infused rings (3 slots each). You can purchase with tickets 6 sets of crafted triumphant armor for the same ticket cost as legendary or you can buy 4 sets of mistforged triumphant for the same ticket cost as legendary. This excludes regular legendary material costs which are exuberant. As far as I know runes are not redeemable from wvw legendary armor at this time.

The number of people who can legitimately claim to put wvw legendary armor to reasonable use I could probably count on one hand as they are the players who do something like glass builds in highend pve and when entering wvw need just a little more survivability by changing that gear to something with a defensive stat without wanting to change runes AND just not having the inventory space to manage another 6 pieces of gear. But you see, those people that play highend pve are probably more likely to be looking at raid legendary armor which does have rune return and a fancy new skin.

Just my thoughts before you go any deeper into the money pit that is wvw legendary armor which btw, you havn't even scratched 1%

I didn't see a note about that in the legendary armor wiki. The WvW legendary armor doesn't give back the rune?

[Strider Pj.2193]

@AliamRationem.5172 said:

@Justine.6351 said:tbh I think you and anyone else really should be focusing on getting mistforged triumphant hero's armor before they start to think legendary armor. At minimum the Triumphant Hero's Ascended version is needed for creating the legendary armor anyhow. The reason I think mistforged triumphant hero armor should be your target goal is because it is much more feasible and it will be a lot less painful when some day you decide you don't want to play a light armor class anymore.

Also note that legendary version does not unlock any special skin, not even the mistforged triumphant skin if upgrading from regular triumphant.

You really only should be looking at legendary wvw armor if you have nothing better to do with your materials and your current gear is already gg end game. For that we are talking ascended armor and weapons, infused ascended back pack (2 infusion slots) and attuned infused rings (3 slots each). You can purchase with tickets 6 sets of crafted triumphant armor for the same ticket cost as legendary or you can buy 4 sets of mistforged triumphant for the same ticket cost as legendary. This excludes regular legendary material costs which are exuberant. As far as I know runes are not redeemable from wvw legendary armor at this time.

The number of people who can legitimately claim to put wvw legendary armor to reasonable use I could probably count on one hand as they are the players who do something like glass builds in highend pve and when entering wvw need just a little more survivability by changing that gear to something with a defensive stat without wanting to change runes AND just not having the inventory space to manage another 6 pieces of gear. But you see, those people that play highend pve are probably more likely to be looking at raid legendary armor which does have rune return and a fancy new skin.

Just my thoughts before you go any deeper into the money pit that is wvw legendary armor which btw, you havn't even scratched 1%

I didn't see a note about that in the legendary armor wiki. The WvW legendary armor doesn't give back the rune?

Yes. It gives back the Rune.

[AliamRationem.5172]

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@AliamRationem.5172 said:

@Justine.6351 said:tbh I think you and anyone else really should be focusing on getting mistforged triumphant hero's armor before they start to think legendary armor. At minimum the Triumphant Hero's Ascended version is needed for creating the legendary armor anyhow. The reason I think mistforged triumphant hero armor should be your target goal is because it is much more feasible and it will be a lot less painful when some day you decide you don't want to play a light armor class anymore.

Also note that legendary version does not unlock any special skin, not even the mistforged triumphant skin if upgrading from regular triumphant.

You really only should be looking at legendary wvw armor if you have nothing better to do with your materials and your current gear is already gg end game. For that we are talking ascended armor and weapons, infused ascended back pack (2 infusion slots) and attuned infused rings (3 slots each). You can purchase with tickets 6 sets of crafted triumphant armor for the same ticket cost as legendary or you can buy 4 sets of mistforged triumphant for the same ticket cost as legendary. This excludes regular legendary material costs which are exuberant. As far as I know runes are not redeemable from wvw legendary armor at this time.

The number of people who can legitimately claim to put wvw legendary armor to reasonable use I could probably count on one hand as they are the players who do something like glass builds in highend pve and when entering wvw need just a little more survivability by changing that gear to something with a defensive stat without wanting to change runes AND just not having the inventory space to manage another 6 pieces of gear. But you see, those people that play highend pve are probably more likely to be looking at raid legendary armor which does have rune return and a fancy new skin.

Just my thoughts before you go any deeper into the money pit that is wvw legendary armor which btw, you havn't even scratched 1%

I didn't see a note about that in the legendary armor wiki. The WvW legendary armor doesn't give back the rune?

Yes. It gives back the Rune.

Thanks. It's a shame it doesn't have a unique skin, though. I know they seemed to struggle with designing the PvE legendary armor skins, so maybe skip the crazy animations. But at least something unique would be nice!

[Strider Pj.2193]

@AliamRationem.5172 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@AliamRationem.5172 said:

@Justine.6351 said:tbh I think you and anyone else really should be focusing on getting mistforged triumphant hero's armor before they start to think legendary armor. At minimum the Triumphant Hero's Ascended version is needed for creating the legendary armor anyhow. The reason I think mistforged triumphant hero armor should be your target goal is because it is much more feasible and it will be a lot less painful when some day you decide you don't want to play a light armor class anymore.

Also note that legendary version does not unlock any special skin, not even the mistforged triumphant skin if upgrading from regular triumphant.

You really only should be looking at legendary wvw armor if you have nothing better to do with your materials and your current gear is already gg end game. For that we are talking ascended armor and weapons, infused ascended back pack (2 infusion slots) and attuned infused rings (3 slots each). You can purchase with tickets 6 sets of crafted triumphant armor for the same ticket cost as legendary or you can buy 4 sets of mistforged triumphant for the same ticket cost as legendary. This excludes regular legendary material costs which are exuberant. As far as I know runes are not redeemable from wvw legendary armor at this time.

The number of people who can legitimately claim to put wvw legendary armor to reasonable use I could probably count on one hand as they are the players who do something like glass builds in highend pve and when entering wvw need just a little more survivability by changing that gear to something with a defensive stat without wanting to change runes AND just not having the inventory space to manage another 6 pieces of gear. But you see, those people that play highend pve are probably more likely to be looking at raid legendary armor which does have rune return and a fancy new skin.

Just my thoughts before you go any deeper into the money pit that is wvw legendary armor which btw, you havn't even scratched 1%

I didn't see a note about that in the legendary armor wiki. The WvW legendary armor doesn't give back the rune?

Yes. It gives back the Rune.

Thanks. It's a shame it doesn't have a unique skin, though. I know they seemed to struggle with designing the PvE legendary armor skins, so maybe skip the crazy animations. But at least something unique would be nice!

The mist forged triumphant is a unique skin. But it takes rank 2K to get.

[Spartacus.3192]

I love legendary armor. I only have one heavy set but i play all 3 heavy classes (guardian, rev, warrior). I use it to experiment with different builds/runes/stats when i play wvw. Its awesome.

[Strider Pj.2193]

@Spartacus.3192 said:I love legendary armor. I only have one heavy set but i play all 3 heavy classes (guardian, rev, warrior). I use it to experiment with different builds/runes/stats when i play wvw. Its awesome.

Yep.

Is it cheaper to have let’s say 3-4 sets of ascended? Sure. But the comvenience of legendary armor makes it sooo worth it to me.

[Spartacus.3192]

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Spartacus.3192 said:I love legendary armor. I only have one heavy set but i play all 3 heavy classes (guardian, rev, warrior). I use it to experiment with different builds/runes/stats when i play wvw. Its awesome.

Yep.

Is it cheaper to have let’s say 3-4 sets of ascended? Sure. But the

comvenience

of legendary armor makes it sooo worth it to me.

It pays for itself quite quickly because you dont lose runes that are expensive or harder to get such as durability or surging or sanctuary. You also have access to EVERY stat choice in the game and you dont have to PVE for those stats.

[Strider Pj.2193]

@Spartacus.3192 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Spartacus.3192 said:I love legendary armor. I only have one heavy set but i play all 3 heavy classes (guardian, rev, warrior). I use it to experiment with different builds/runes/stats when i play wvw. Its awesome.

Yep.

Is it cheaper to have let’s say 3-4 sets of ascended? Sure. But the

comvenience

of legendary armor makes it sooo worth it to me.

It pays for itself quite quickly because you dont lose runes that are expensive or harder to get such as durability or surging or sanctuary.

You also have access to EVERY stat choice in the game and you dont have to PVE for those stats.

Well.. the math actually says differently unless you change it each day, but I would only argue the ‘quickly’ part.

To me though, what it pays me back in convenience is worth it.

[Spartacus.3192]

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Spartacus.3192 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Spartacus.3192 said:I love legendary armor. I only have one heavy set but i play all 3 heavy classes (guardian, rev, warrior). I use it to experiment with different builds/runes/stats when i play wvw. Its awesome.

Yep.

Is it cheaper to have let’s say 3-4 sets of ascended? Sure. But the

comvenience

of legendary armor makes it sooo worth it to me.

It pays for itself quite quickly because you dont lose runes that are expensive or harder to get such as durability or surging or sanctuary.

You also have access to EVERY stat choice in the game and you dont have to PVE for those stats.

Well.. the math actually says differently unless you change it each day, but I would only argue the ‘quickly’ part.

To me though, what it pays me back in convenience is worth it.

Well maybe not mathematically but i love to theorycraft builds and then test them and since i play all 3 heavy classes i can change things on the fly and tweak stats and runes multiple times in a week while testing.

[Strider Pj.2193]

@Spartacus.3192 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Spartacus.3192 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Spartacus.3192 said:I love legendary armor. I only have one heavy set but i play all 3 heavy classes (guardian, rev, warrior). I use it to experiment with different builds/runes/stats when i play wvw. Its awesome.

Yep.

Is it cheaper to have let’s say 3-4 sets of ascended? Sure. But the

comvenience

of legendary armor makes it sooo worth it to me.

It pays for itself quite quickly because you dont lose runes that are expensive or harder to get such as durability or surging or sanctuary.

You also have access to EVERY stat choice in the game and you dont have to PVE for those stats.

Well.. the math actually says differently unless you change it each day, but I would only argue the ‘quickly’ part.

To me though, what it pays me back in convenience is worth it.

Well maybe not mathematically but i love to theorycraft builds and then test them and since i play all 3 heavy classes i can change things on the fly and tweak stats and runes multiple times in a week while testing.

Oh I agree. And to me, it’s been worth it.

[Drastic.8920]

It also helps save a lot of inventory space since runes stack.

[Liston.9708]

@"Sleepwalker.1398" said:You can use this link to see what mats you need.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor

Just 1 tip OP, do not salvage your mistforged triumphant ascended armor to get Ball of Dark Energy.You need that armor together with all the items to throw in the mystic toilet to get legendary version.

@"Sleepwalker.1398" said:You can use this link to see what mats you need.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor

Just 1 tip OP, do not salvage your mistforged triumphant ascended armor to get Ball of Dark Energy.You need that armor together with all the items to throw in the mystic toilet to get legendary version.

@"Sleepwalker.1398" said:You can use this link to see what mats you need.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor

Just 1 tip OP, do not salvage your mistforged triumphant ascended armor to get Ball of Dark Energy.You need that armor together with all the items to throw in the mystic toilet to get legendary version.

@"Sleepwalker.1398" said:You can use this link to see what mats you need.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_armor

Just 1 tip OP, do not salvage your mistforged triumphant ascended armor to get Ball of Dark Energy.You need that armor together with all the items to throw in the mystic toilet to get legendary version.

Also don’t restat it in the MF