Buran.3796 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I'm TIRED of having to manually check each utility legend skill key asignation in this vile pile can garbage and bugs called Revenant each time I join to a PvP match because the game ramdomly resets them to "default" despite having the same layout of legends, traits and weapons in EVERY game mode.This have ben an UNFIXED PROBLEM for moths and months and KEEPS HAPPENING, despite the entire template revamp. Some of us have PAID MONEY to have extra loadouts which remain mostly useless with this class, because the game keeps resetting them and ignoring our choices. Is crap when happens in WvW, but at least can be fixed outside combat; but when happens in PvP and is noticed after the starts JUST RUINS THE ENTIRE MATCH for me.Signed: a customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 All of the above. Incredibly frustrating in PvP the few times it has happened to me and I haven't noticed. More importantly I shouldn't be forced to check my utilities are in the right location at the beginning of every match anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobber.6348 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 "oh man I gotta press this skill which I need in this situation which I have committed to muscle memory!"Bug which swaps RS and PT : haha yes but actually no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 @"Yasai.3549" said:"oh man I gotta press this skill which I need in this situation which I have committed to muscle memory!"Bug which swaps RS and PT : haha yes but actually no.Better yet is when it swaps the skill effect but doesn't switch the image so you think the buttons are in the right order... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 @"Yasai.3549" said:"oh man I gotta press this skill which I need in this situation which I have committed to muscle memory!"Bug which swaps RS and PT : haha yes but actually no.Instead of me having to re-learn WHY CAN'T THE PROGRAMMERS LEARN TO CODE? I did PAY money to get a feature WHICH ISN'T BEING GIVEN to me.And is not only me: I could swear that THE OTHER FOUR PLAYERS jailed in a match with a player which can't play his character AREN'T AMUSED about playing 4 vs 5. They also PAID for the game and do expect the game to work NORMALLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Za Shaloc.3908 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 A couple things I have noticed in case it affects others the same way:It will happen very frequently if I am swapping to or from the third build template. I thought it was fixed for a while because it rarely happens when swapping between the first and second template.It is much much more likely to occur if swapping while mounted. This is in WvW on the Warclaw, but I am not sure if it happens elsewhere.Been happening a lot more since the big balance patch. Tends to be the icons that are bugged too so it sabotages me and makes it appear like things are all good. I try to make an effort to test out my utility skills every time I swap now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virdo.1540 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 It happens everywhere. Switching gear, switching build, switching legends ,taking items, mounting up or down, going underwater.....imo it would be better to make them be Fixed to an spot in the skill-bar. We couldnt move things like Vengeful Hammers from 8 to 7 anymore, but it would be EPICLY BETTER than having everything switched within 1minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 @"Virdo.1540" said:It happens everywhere. Switching gear, switching build, switching legends ,taking items, mounting up or down, going underwater.....imo it would be better to make them be Fixed to an spot in the skill-bar. We couldnt move things like Vengeful Hammers from 8 to 7 anymore, but it would be EPICLY BETTER than having everything switched within 1minuteWill give you the same answer I wrote in the Reddit thread:Not a good option. I have all classes and I try to use some patterns to my hotkeys. As example: I always asign movement skills to the "6", which means that if I'm using a Guardian with Judge's Intervention or a Warrior with Bull's Charge or a Revenant with Phase Traversal or Call to Anguish I put those close gap skills in the same spot, which helps to get "muscle memory" across a large amount of classes and builds. A pre-defined and unmovable order in the Revenant utility skills would mesh up the choices of a lot of players. I insist: is a coding problem in a feature which we paid for, MUST BE SOLVED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virdo.1540 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 @Buran.3796 said:@"Virdo.1540" said:It happens everywhere. Switching gear, switching build, switching legends ,taking items, mounting up or down, going underwater.....imo it would be better to make them be Fixed to an spot in the skill-bar. We couldnt move things like Vengeful Hammers from 8 to 7 anymore, but it would be EPICLY BETTER than having everything switched within 1minuteWill give you the same answer I wrote in the Reddit thread:Not a good option. I have all classes and I try to use some patterns to my hotkeys. As example: I always asign movement skills to the "6", which means that if I'm using a Guardian with Judge's Intervention or a Warrior with Bull's Charge or a Revenant with Phase Traversal or Call to Anguish I put those close gap skills in the same spot, which helps to get "muscle memory" across a large amount of classes and builds. A pre-defined and unmovable order in the Revenant utility skills would mesh up the choices of a lot of players. I insist: is a coding problem in a feature which we paid for, MUST BE SOLVED.same with my ,but its something that cannot be fixed. Maybe only workarounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 @Virdo.1540 said:same with my ,but its something that cannot be fixed. Maybe only workarounds.That's like saying that an Excel box with a wrong algorithm can't be fixed. I understand that the game engine was developed towards DirectX 9 so lacks propper multi core optimization and therefore the performance isn't optimized for current CPUs, the only way to improve that would be a new game engine. But fixing just code lines? Just how the game resets the skills instead of keeping the player preferences on a higher hierarchy? Thats BASIC coding stuff. Is not some sort of esoteric thermodynamic miracle we are asking for! Is programming 101! And since they put a paywall to get access to these quality of living things they should either FIX IT OR REFUND the money I and others spent in a FEATURE THAT DOESN'T WORK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 @"Buran.3796" said:I'm TIRED of having to manually check each utility legend skill key asignation in this vile pile can garbage and bugs called Revenant each time I join to a PvP match because the game ramdomly resets them to "default" despite having the same layout of legends, traits and weapons in EVERY game mode.This have ben an UNFIXED PROBLEM for moths and months and KEEPS HAPPENING, despite the entire template revamp. Some of us have PAID MONEY to have extra loadouts which remain mostly useless with this class, because the game keeps resetting them and ignoring our choices. Is kitten when happens in WvW, but at least can be fixed outside combat; but when happens in PvP and is noticed after the starts JUST RUINS THE ENTIRE MATCH for me.Signed: a customer.I’ve found it because of the templates. I had to delete all of my rev templates and just not use them. So far so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xca.9721 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 But it was fine for a couple of months, only recently these bugs returned. I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen.1327 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 most annoying stuff everif you glide, your skillload changes but the icons remain the same so if you don't pay attention your skills swapped.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noginz.5683 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I noticed that if i hit my template hotkey twice, the second press puts my skills in the right place. So kinda fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Don't you just love it how your upkeep skills randomly fritz out upon contact with water, and continue to be in their "on" state, draining energy, but not actually working any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 @LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:@"Yasai.3549" said:"oh man I gotta press this skill which I need in this situation which I have committed to muscle memory!"Bug which swaps RS and PT : haha yes but actually no.Better yet is when it swaps the skill effect but doesn't switch the image so you think the buttons are in the right order... :(I've ended with the utilities all with the same image :| was quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBroChill.3254 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 It's that darn spaghetti code and ANETS lack of Italian game designers! Mama Mia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Za Shaloc.3908 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Been trying to still observe patterns as to how this triggers. Some more notes:Trying to swap templates with legend swap still on CD seems to trigger the bug a lot (the swap wont go through, but once the CD is up it'll more likely be messed up). Seems to be the case with weapon swap too.if I try to spam immediately after exiting combat (spamming the button waiting for OOC), it seems more likely to mess up.More likely to happen if I am swapping between multiple templates too fast.I change builds a lot, and in the past week I have only had the bug occur on me once. Trying to take these precautions and the ones listed in my previous post seems to help this a lot. Most notable one for me still is trying to swap builds while mounted. I will dismount before changing build templates no matter what now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I noticed a new fun interaction where it swaps correctly, but then two seconds later it switches utilities. I literally watched it happen in the build panel. Was weird and abnormal, perhaps caused by some sort of latency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumigene.5076 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 It's extremely annoying.It made me stop using different templates in WvW. But I can't even ignore the problem. Just joining WvW may move my skills (and I'm using the same template that I use everywhere else).Template=QoL? Rather the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Bug has been around since even before templates. Don’t count on it getting fixed. It is annoying though. Very annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 @Buran.3796 said:@"Virdo.1540" said:It happens everywhere. Switching gear, switching build, switching legends ,taking items, mounting up or down, going underwater.....imo it would be better to make them be Fixed to an spot in the skill-bar. We couldnt move things like Vengeful Hammers from 8 to 7 anymore, but it would be EPICLY BETTER than having everything switched within 1minuteWill give you the same answer I wrote in the Reddit thread:Not a good option. I have all classes and I try to use some patterns to my hotkeys. As example: I always asign movement skills to the "6", which means that if I'm using a Guardian with Judge's Intervention or a Warrior with Bull's Charge or a Revenant with Phase Traversal or Call to Anguish I put those close gap skills in the same spot, which helps to get "muscle memory" across a large amount of classes and builds. A pre-defined and unmovable order in the Revenant utility skills would mesh up the choices of a lot of players. I insist: is a coding problem in a feature which we paid for, MUST BE SOLVED.technically you could switch your hotkeys and rearrange the keys and it would be the same, just img off skills would be in different order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 @Leonidrex.5649 said:technically you could switch your hotkeys and rearrange the keys and it would be the same, just img off skills would be in different orderHow? By default Glint has the breakstun in the #7, Shiro and Mallyx in the #9, Jalis in the #10, etc. The same with the other skills. Why no, INSTEAD, you known, could ANet fix the bug? Like if they were competent conding their own game, or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 @Buran.3796 said:@Leonidrex.5649 said:technically you could switch your hotkeys and rearrange the keys and it would be the same, just img off skills would be in different orderHow? By default Glint has the breakstun in the #7, Shiro and Mallyx in the #9, Jalis in the #10, etc. The same with the other skills. Why no, INSTEAD, you known, could ANet fix the bug? Like if they were competent conding their own game, or something...by changing hotkeys from 7 to 10 for example, or from 9 to 7, and on other classes just move the slots example.Revmobility skill -7X skill -8Y skill 9change skill 9 to 7, 8 to 9 and 7 to 8 and rearrange stuff, but yes they should fix the bugs 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 I already use keyboard keys in my mouse ("alt" for the evade, "i", "l" and "o" for the #8, #9 and "select target"... But the mouse doesn't known when I swap a legend and as I said they have different functions in different order. ANet just should do their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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