Lighter.5631 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 patches after patches of nerf, it is still meta, great.why is it still not deleted yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega.5791 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 People: Tempest is so dumb, the shocking aura share is annoying and the rezzes suck.Anet: gives a weapon skill 60s CDDoes this count as the answer? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 No one wants to fight this. It's utterly brainless and the easiest build in any pvp game ever. It should go back to being useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 For the same reason condi rev exist, why shroud exists as it does, why grenades hit like they do, or why rally is as it is etc etc. The game is horrendously balanced and full of carry bs. A real team that knows pvp balance needs to be implemented and time spent on fixing the mess in hurry or just delete the mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Because anet keeps nerfing numbers instead of fixing bad mechanics. Stealth being reveal-on-hit and "do X condi when you do Y condi" are examples of bad systems that are still in the game. Anets response is to lower damage, remove amulets, and increase cooldowns, which only slows the game down and fixes nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret.1965 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Ez answer. Condi thief still exists because gw2 is a skill based game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I don’t even think it’s that great tbh. I don’t wanna test it though as it’s not fun.I kindof like condi s/d though at least that could be fun at times, like when power s/d just wasn’t that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighter.5631 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 tbh anet keep not doing anything and people will keep playing unfun specs and people will keep quitting.you either force fun/exciting spec, or maybe just stop hiring pvp devs all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 delete the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar.3568 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 @Stand The Wall.6987 said:delete the forumsI agree Cthief is trash, d/p daredevil overshadows itThe little nerf a while back was actually enaugh that it has gone weak, you only loose if you have nothing left and at this moment you should actually die by a thief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widmo.3186 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 We r talking about company that last year kitten up their coding and made Bolstered Elements (weaver trait) bugged so that it didnt grant stability anymore. It was obviously discovered day 1 and reported multiple times. At that time it was used in every weaver build, and was major part of those, so many ppl got annoyed, angry and stopped playing ele till they fix the bug.So, you ask how much time did it take them to fix the problem? 1 hour? 1-2 days? The answer is somewhere around 1-2 months, I dont remember correctly. Random links:https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/80653/no-stability-with-bolstered-elements <- random thread that mentions this bug, June 27Fixed a bug that could cause this trait to stop granting stability after Lesser Stone Resonance was cast. < - July 30Curtain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen.1327 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 the current condi thief is nothing like sd condi thief before, im all in for keeping as it isits strong but is situational and has many countersdoesnt even have easy interrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp.6912 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 when a condi build is a roamer, you know there is a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauzi.5892 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 @Lighter.5631 said:patches after patches of nerf, it is still meta, great.why is it still not deleted yetIt's not meta and it's not good either. You should go train in your guildhall, pvp arena or wvw and try to get out of silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 After mota ppl switch back to power dd, so all the hate towards condi is gonePlus, ppl dont want any playstyles to be deleted, it isnt any fun if classes have one viable build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp.6912 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 @Mauzi.5892 said:@Lighter.5631 said:patches after patches of nerf, it is still meta, great.why is it still not deleted yetIt's not meta and it's not good either. You should go train in your guildhall, pvp arena or wvw and try to get out of silverit's not meta because condi rev when condi rev will be nerf (ok proba in 6 month) u will see condi thief will be top tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 In the end whether condi thief is toxic and op is irrelevant when more than half the rosters meta builds are also brainless carry toxic spam builds, so removing condi thief accomplishes nothing really. The whole roster needs a complete rework and rebalance by a team that actually knows what their doing, that's the only way to save this games trash heep they call pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 this build is gate keeping many build from viability, when you create a build, first thing you have to ask yourself is " can I cleanse enough to not get 1shot from stealth by condi thief" if the answer is NO then you scrap the build. Other such bursts cant be dodged, anticipated, played around, LoS, or ran from. Not cthief.Its faster, its instant, its from stealth and its from long range ignoring LOS.I dont have a problem with Cthief for the sake of it, I dislike how little counterplay it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 @"Leonidrex.5649" said:this build is gate keeping many build from viability, when you create a build, first thing you have to ask yourself is " can I cleanse enough to not get 1shot from stealth by condi thief" if the answer is NO then you scrap the build. Other such bursts cant be dodged, anticipated, played around, LoS, or ran from. Not cthief.Its faster, its instant, its from stealth and its from long range ignoring LOS.I dont have a problem with Cthief for the sake of it, I dislike how little counterplay it has.EXACTLY this. I assumed condi thief would be DELETED from existence in PvP and WvW because of how much it dictates the meta. Condi thief currently restricts and holds back so many builds from being PLAYABLE that it's stupid.The reason you don't see condi thief often anymore is because people are playing builds that hard counter condi thief which forces thief into d/p which is a much better all around build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody.2601 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 It's funny you guys don't even realize that cThief is already dead.We are in a Power Meta.D/P Power Thief is far better in almost every way and outshines cThief. (It's more mobile, is easier to play and better for coordinated bursts in teamfights, 1/3 of its damage can't be simply cleansed, can +1 against rev without killing himself or his mate.)Condi Thief or any other single Class/Build doesnt dictate a Meta, the Meta is build upon what Builds are played and whats best against most of the Builds you are facing, and you arent facing a Team with multiple Condi Thiefs, you are most likely to face a comp that consists of Guard, Rev, Necro, Engi and Thief in their respective Elite Spec's. So if you have a Build and you think the only Class you cannot stand against is a cThief, you would probably also lose to almost anything else that is considered Meta right now, cause the whole Meta doesnt resolve around cThief.If you getting killed by a Condi Thief, you would probably also have died to a Power Thief.also PSA:MetaAbbreviation of Most Effective Tactic Available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Sindrenner(#1 thief in the world and MotA winner) still says condi thief is completely overpowered, brainless, and should be nerfed a ton more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody.2601 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I don't know any "Sindrenner" nor do I know of a World Leaderboard Ranking List that says a "Sindrenner" is #1 Thief in the World.Assuming you mean Sindrener from Rank 55 Dragons, yes I know his opinion, but his opinion is still a opinion and nothing more, he hates every version of Thief that isnt D/P, he also hates S/D Thief, if you would remove D/P Thief once, you would remove him from the entire Game, cause he can't play anything else besides that.And you basically don't have your own opinion but you just reflect his opinion, but you forget, opinion's aren't wrong, nor right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralFailure.3402 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 if thief is so OP plz nerf, why are peple not happy where there are two of them on their team? even condi onesunlike revsunlike guardsunlike necrosunlike rangersrealy makes you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 @GeneralFailure.3402 said:if thief is so OP plz nerf, why are peple not happy where there are two of them on their team?unlike revsunlike guardsunlike necrosunlike rangersrealy makes you thinkCan't hold a node vs anyone with a brain and loses any even fights against same people. same reason you don't mass scout units in an RTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralFailure.3402 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 @Shiyo.3578 said:@GeneralFailure.3402 said:if thief is so OP plz nerf, why are peple not happy where there are two of them on their team?unlike revsunlike guardsunlike necrosunlike rangersrealy makes you thinkCan't hold a node vs anyone with a brain and loses any even fights against same people. same reason you don't mass scout units in an RTS.and this scout unit (condi thief) is slower, has less evades, and not so on demand access to stealth as you need to hit an enemy, than power d/p. So why it is bad if does more burst damage? Which by the way can be easily negated by blocks, evades, projectile deflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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