Remove sky hammer from ranked

Either remove it or rework the hammer room. Right now it is way too scourge friendly.

@Faux Play.6104 said:Either remove it or rework the hammer room. Right now it is way too scourge friendly.

You guys never quit!

The scourge already nerfed to the ground and you still trying to find anything to drag the scourge in any ( changing, removing, nerfing) conversations

@silent killer.5732 said:

@"Faux Play.6104" said:Either remove it or rework the hammer room. Right now it is way too scourge friendly.

idk how it will be with next "balance" patch but still after nerfs its hard to face to face with scourge and his massively condi application with big aoe ammunition skillsand still easier to fight with spellbreaker than with scourge..fight maybe longer but you wont die in just 1-2 sec if you dont cleanse

@Vertep.2498 said:but you wont die in just 1-2 sec if you dont cleanseDPS maniac (cleanse does not do DAMAGES!!1!1) detected.

@paShadoWn.5723 said:

@Vertep.2498 said:but you wont die in just 1-2 sec if you dont cleanseDPS maniac (cleanse does not do DAMAGES!!1!1) detected.

lol? many skills with cleanse on utility can be instant without cast time but it have limited use.I fought not only once with scourge and do you know what? once I used 1st cleanse then in next 1 sec got reapplied 20 stacks of 3 different condis, fast used 2nd cleanse and do you know what again? same, again ot in just 1 sec 20 stacks of few different condis, on most classes you have limited cleansing where you cant spam it like guardian while against spellbreaker just look on him and dont attack when he is in defensive mode (not attacking you also)

to survive scourge you need literally a tons of cleasne which is maybe jsut on 2 classes with viable builds for this to not be useless in other aspects of pvp

@Vertep.2498 said:

@paShadoWn.5723 said:

@Vertep.2498 said:but you wont die in just 1-2 sec if you dont cleanseDPS maniac (cleanse does not do DAMAGES!!1!1) detected.

Condi cleanses are pointless vs Scourge. You need hard mitigation, in the form of either dodging / blocking the skills or having resistance up. Doesn't matter how many cleanses you have if you keep on face-tanking their shades.

@silent killer.5732 said:

@Faux Play.6104 said:Either remove it or rework the hammer room. Right now it is way too scourge friendly.

Scourge never got nerfed, it got fixed lol. Its still very strong without the stackable shades bug abuse.

Either way, the OP is asking for a map change not a Scourge nerf, and i'd agree. Skyhammer is probably my least favorite map since PoF (among those enabled in ranked.)

Forcing teamfights in a tiny room while giving every new Elite a metric-ton of AoE skills isn't particularily great gameplay.

Just send one power oriented person in with heavy range pressure to lay into the scourge from the balcony.

But yeah, I can see how scourge would be bad for skyhammer. Its easier to tweak a class than to tweak a stage, IMO; but I remember last time skyhammer caused grief with the open walls and platforms they changed the stage instead of messing with scorpion wire/fearmeta.

@Loop.8106 said:

@Vertep.2498 said:

@paShadoWn.5723 said:

@Vertep.2498 said:but you wont die in just 1-2 sec if you dont cleanseDPS maniac (cleanse does not do DAMAGES!!1!1) detected.

HA and this is it!you are mostly jsut fucked y scourge if you arnt guard or warrior (the only classes with viable access to resistance) and then its pointless to even go close to scourge while against spellbreaker you still can fight/kite him without dying while with scourge just 1-2 seconds and gg

I've come to really hate this map.

Well, at the very least, they should fix it so you can't get feared off the edge.

@silent killer.5732 said:

@Faux Play.6104 said:Either remove it or rework the hammer room. Right now it is way too scourge friendly.

Actually scourge is still incredibly strong with the right support - which they nearly always get. Still a top choice for high level spvp. I don't like Skyhammer, but I am sure some people do but I don't agree with removing maps only because they favor certain classes

The "nerfed to the ground" changes hardly did shit to scourge in pvp, all it is is that you now die in 5 seconds if staying within melee range instead of 2 seconds, aka still nobody can stay within melee range on node of a scourge w/o FB support.

@Vertep.2498 said:

@paShadoWn.5723 said:

@Vertep.2498 said:but you wont die in just 1-2 sec if you dont cleanseDPS maniac (cleanse does not do DAMAGES!!1!1) detected.

I personally have 6 cleanse methods within 7 seconds on a CD of about 25.

Also aoe team clease

@Griever.8150 said:

@silent killer.5732 said:

@Faux Play.6104 said:Either remove it or rework the hammer room. Right now it is way too scourge friendly.

Derailing thread, but didn't you used to play WoW? I feel like I've seen you on the arena forums a lot.

@Azure The Heartless.3261 said:Just send one power oriented person in with heavy range pressure to lay into the scourge from the balcony.

But yeah, I can see how scourge would be bad for skyhammer. Its easier to tweak a class than to tweak a stage, IMO; but I remember last time skyhammer caused grief with the open walls and platforms they changed the stage instead of messing with scorpion wire/fearmeta.

The problem is the ranged person does not have enough room. The scouge can cover both platforms and the center. Also it is easy to dodge/leap out of the hammer room, but you can't knock someone out.

I for one hate the jump pads most about this map, not hammer room or scourges lul

@paShadoWn.5723 said:

@Vertep.2498 said:but you wont die in just 1-2 sec if you dont cleanseDPS maniac (cleanse does not do DAMAGES!!1!1) detected.

i wish u could still knock people off skyhammer in to the death pit

@caveman.5840 said:i wish u could still knock people off skyhammer in to the death pit

At this point you might as well be able to.

Skyhammer is still a bad map to play on. If I had one choice of excluding a map from my roster it would be this one. The gameplay on it isn't bad, it is quite good. The problem is because the game camera is so bad in PvP you can can't see what what you are doing most of the time because of all the building obstructions in the way like pillars, stairs etc. I've find this map heavily favors classes that can fight blind, i.e. classes with ample massive aoe condi fields or direct damage aoe. Half the time is spent adjusting the camera and the other half actually playing.

and reintroduce the courtyard when you're at it, since it was the only real pvp map in the game

@Shadownox.5968 said:

@Griever.8150 said:

@silent killer.5732 said:

@Faux Play.6104 said:Either remove it or rework the hammer room. Right now it is way too scourge friendly.

Yeah, i did.

Maybe instead of removing an entire map because of 1 class, you just nerf the 1 class.

@Vertep.2498 said:

@Loop.8106 said:

@Vertep.2498 said:

@paShadoWn.5723 said:

@Vertep.2498 said:but you wont die in just 1-2 sec if you dont cleanseDPS maniac (cleanse does not do DAMAGES!!1!1) detected.

Let me guess you do not run a secondary ranged weapon?