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  • @particlepinata.9865 said:
    I myself had a opposite experience in the past. When doing a certain collect things event in Caledon forest, a group of 10 roleplayers started rp-ing exactly at the point where i was doing the event. They would not contribute in anyway, upscaling it 10 times. Rp-ing is just a niche, its not core gameplay. So no, rp-ers should not have a special status in this game. I dont mind roleplayers, as long as its not disturbing events/gameplay of others.

    To be fair to the RPers, they are typically more likely to do their thing in the cites and other areas away from combat. They seem to love the Taverns.

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  • particlepinata.9865particlepinata.9865 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2020

    @The Greyhawk.9107 said:

    @particlepinata.9865 said:
    I myself had a opposite experience in the past. When doing a certain collect things event in Caledon forest, a group of 10 roleplayers started rp-ing exactly at the point where i was doing the event. They would not contribute in anyway, upscaling it 10 times. Rp-ing is just a niche, its not core gameplay. So no, rp-ers should not have a special status in this game. I dont mind roleplayers, as long as its not disturbing events/gameplay of others.

    To be fair to the RPers, they are typically more likely to do their thing in the cites and other areas away from combat. They seem to love the Taverns.

    Most times, yes. But not Always. If you give a certain group of players a privilaged status with certain report/block tools, you can bet they will miss use it, always. And there are events that start in taverns like the one in the queensdale tavern (the boar event).

  • @particlepinata.9865 said:

    @The Greyhawk.9107 said:

    @particlepinata.9865 said:
    I myself had a opposite experience in the past. When doing a certain collect things event in Caledon forest, a group of 10 roleplayers started rp-ing exactly at the point where i was doing the event. They would not contribute in anyway, upscaling it 10 times. Rp-ing is just a niche, its not core gameplay. So no, rp-ers should not have a special status in this game. I dont mind roleplayers, as long as its not disturbing events/gameplay of others.

    To be fair to the RPers, they are typically more likely to do their thing in the cites and other areas away from combat. They seem to love the Taverns.

    Most times, yes. But not Always. If you give a certain group of players a privilaged status with certain report/block tools, you can bet they will miss use it, always. And there are events that start in taverns like the one in the queensdale tavern (the boar event).

    I may be wrong, but I don't think the Boar event would be effected by the RPers if they stay in the Lodge/Tavern.

    But I digress, I do agree with you that they shouldn't get special privileges especially given that they are a small subset of the player base.

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  • kratan.4619kratan.4619 Member ✭✭✭

    The extra chat for RP only would be fine with me, the scrolling of the text from /say can be annoying, and no I should not have to turn off my say in my chatbox because of this. Also, if you are choosing to RP at the waypoint by the bank in DR then you are just baiting the potential trolls by being where you already know a lot of people will show up and then get upset when someone eventually does end up trolling you. Sure you should be able to do your RP wherever you want, but the way it works now you probably need to choose somewhere other than at a popular waypoint.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I think that people who grief are just bad people who take pleasure in causing others discomfort. They need not be bored to do it anymore than someone who enjoys playing open world PvE needs to be bored in order to play PvE. Its what they enjoy doing, so they do it.

    I wouldn't be opposed to expanding anti-griefing systems in some way.

  • @Gehenna.3625 said:

    @Jackeroo Sundown.7526 said:
    I'll never understand people that go out of their way to pester other people from doing what they wanna do if they're not harming anyone. There's a ton of content, just go do that. We're just people trying to have fun.

    That usually happens when people are bored, just like in real life. I guess people get bored in this game enough to have time to troll RP'ers. I don't get it either, but that's what seems to be the issue a lot of the time.

    I'd have to say that it's worse.
    This is due, mainly, to the troll's perception of anonymity.
    I suspect that if this were IRL they'd be to timid to engage.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @kratan.4619 said:
    The extra chat for RP only would be fine with me, the scrolling of the text from /say can be annoying, and no I should not have to turn off my say in my chatbox because of this. Also, if you are choosing to RP at the waypoint by the bank in DR then you are just baiting the potential trolls by being where you already know a lot of people will show up and then get upset when someone eventually does end up trolling you. Sure you should be able to do your RP wherever you want, but the way it works now you probably need to choose somewhere other than at a popular waypoint.

    Create a squad and then use squad chat?

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  • YtseJam.9784YtseJam.9784 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2020

    I would personally want an option to block all RPers... To me this is not part of the game, it is something you guys invented and it annoys me. Why don't you take your spam to a guild chat or something else instead of flooding the maps with your says and emotes? I don't want to read your stories, it is sometimes disgusting and I hate every time I go to a map and get my chat box full of your spam

  • I spent tons of hours on WoW roleplaying, it would be great if we could actually have a... home... in our home instance. Ya know? Like decorating and such.

  • Daddicus.6128Daddicus.6128 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Forgive me for asking, but what does "role-playing" mean in this context? I thought that's what we did whenever we play, but it seems to mean more to some.

  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 13, 2020

    Well I will give a little explanation/definition.
    Firstly, we are in a MMORPG a massive multiplayer ROLE PLAYING game.

    What is role play?
    To me it's the action of creating, and/or playing a piece of story created or already present in the corresponding game/universe. It can use part of a map as a scenary for the scenes. It has in most cases to be close to the lore of the game by acting like how a person of that race would act. The use of emotes to make it more realistic is also recommanded. Elements of the game like events or npcs can be used.
    Group size can vary depending on the context: being a warband, two friends etc...

    We are role playing the commander here, and its stories.

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  • @YtseJam.9784 said:
    I would personally want an option to block all RPers... To me this is not part of the game, it is something you guys invented and it annoys me. Why don't you take your spam to a guild chat or something else instead of flooding the maps with your says and emotes? I don't want to read your stories, it is sometimes disgusting and I hate every time I go to a map and get my chat box full of your spam

    Good idea, I like you.

  • Cobrakon.3108Cobrakon.3108 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 13, 2020

    I was ultimately disappointed by the role playing community or should I say how the role playing works in the community. No offense to those who love it, but it plays out like a script on a stage where it feels like you must belong to the hermit village of Role Players. I have offered all sorts of elaborate adventures from visiting the top of Rata Primus, to visiting a secret lab that can do various things. It's like they don't want to riff with you unless you are a trusted close friend or they just want to stand there frozen like statues in one place. I have never felt more alone than in an RP zone. And this is even after learning the etiquette and format.

    It frustrated me so much so, that I made a video about it. This video has many parallels to my experiences in RP zones.

    The culture needs to change imo. There needs to more forms than just the script play type of RP. We need journey/adventure RP, RP with less detail of minutia and instead more communication with others while being in character freely in character without the type writer novel that goes at a snails pace. Be your character, but dare to be adventurous. Don't let continuity consume you so badly that you never experience the world, and new faces alike.

  • Daddicus.6128Daddicus.6128 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @hugo.4705 said:
    Well I will give a little explanation/definition.
    Firstly, we are in a MMORPG a massive multiplayer ROLE PLAYING game.

    What is role play?
    To me it's the action of creating, and/or playing a piece of story created or already present in the corresponding game/universe. It can use part of a map as a scenary for the scenes. It has in most cases to be close to the lore of the game by acting like how a person of that race would act. The use of emotes to make it more realistic is also recommanded. Elements of the game like events or npcs can be used.
    Group size can vary depending on the context: being a warband, two friends etc...

    We are role playing the commander here, and its stories.

    OK, that sounds interesting. I'm not sure I would play that way, but I certainly can see the draw, especially if you have an audio/call program like Discord to use.

    Thank you for the explanation!

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 13, 2020

    guild instance maps. this would enable a ton of possibilities.

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  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lilyanna.9361 said:

    @Valdenroth.6530 said:

    @Jackeroo Sundown.7526 said:
    Dearest A Net, please show your RP community a tiny bit of love. Report features that work in our favor would be amazing, or better yet, let us block people and not even see their character at all. We can't report people unless they say stuff in /say chat, which is almost never the case. Letting blocks make characters and their animations invisible in PvE areas would fix ALL of our problems with the few toxic members that consistently harass the RP community. Just blocking out the person 100% would make us so happy. Until then, there's a small group of scummy humans that get off to spamming skills in the middle of a bunch of people just being nerds. Would be nice to be able to enjoy my night off work doing what I love.

    I'll never understand people that go out of their way to pester other people from doing what they wanna do if they're not harming anyone. There's a ton of content, just go do that. We're just people trying to have fun.

    I do it because it's fun to ruin ya'lls cringefest.

    Rpers are the most cringy people you'll ever meet in mmos and they have a habit of doing that cringy garbage in public areas where you're tying to get stuff done. Very annoying to be, for example, escorting an npc to a destination and coming upon a charr and sylvari having an intimate conversation about tossing his salad like it's never been tossed before.

    Imagine being so far gone in your own head that you think every roleplayer is an ERPer, when nine times out of ten, RPers are the ones that cast out cringey inappropriate rpers from their communities.

    Astounding. Good to see the human race is regressing wonderfully.

    Hes not wrong though, at least in part. Alot of RPers are cringy, not just the players who do Erotic stuff in open channels, but overall theres alot of cringe in this games Roleplay community, is it like this in other games? i dont know, but i hope not.

    i refuse to go to DR anymore with my Emote, say or whispers channel active due to the ERP's in chat there. The whispers ive gotten for playing a female Charr and idling near a bar are disgusting.

    Add to that, and i will admit that i have done this, we as RPs often ignore events going on, scaling them if we kill off a mob or two to stop us from getting attacked.

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  • You guys are getting rps at all?

    Honestly, I'm fine with the current status as is. If there's anyone to troll rpers you can bet they would also laugh their kitten of at their pitiful attempt of trolling.

    As for special rp chat, yes I can see it being useful, but also manipulable. Squad chat works, but only if they are not using it for say, dming or writing "event emotes".

    I like the idea of blocking character models, but if skills are still visible to the others I see it as pointless more than anything.

    Overall, it's hard to say what the solutions are, given we don't even know who is the one in the wrong light here. On one hand, rpers have the right to do the thing in the game as much as other people, not everyone plays the game the same way. On the other hand, I can see how they can become disruptive to the "actual" gameplay that gw2 has to offer, and if I were to be interrupted by them as well, I would also agree that yes, something needs to be done.

  • Tiilimon.6094Tiilimon.6094 Member ✭✭✭

    Why are some people so much against immersion here? It's a lot funnier to play mmo games in character, but as cobracon said, you don't have to make it boring and emote every twitch of your characters eyebrows. You could, for example, RP a beetle racer. Make that boring.

    I've never seen ERP out in the open in 5 years of playing, and sadly I hardly ever see any actual roleplayers either. Has anyone ever seen any lfg groups in Fountain of Rurikton?

    Don't you guys ever enjoy some desert spiced coffee just for the fun of it? Sitting and chatting around the pitcher, somebody pulling out a lute for some tunes... Do you ever shoot fireworks just for fun? Etc..

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tiilimon.6094 said:
    Why are some people so much against immersion here? It's a lot funnier to play mmo games in character

    Not eveyone's idea of "funner" is that same as yours. Just sayin'

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    Very.
    Casual.

  • Tiilimon.6094Tiilimon.6094 Member ✭✭✭

    Yeah, some people like to be serious while playing games and don't understand that they're just next level toys xD

  • devanea.2041devanea.2041 Member
    edited June 4, 2020

    The reason that a lot of roleplayers rp in emote/public is because they want to ensure other roleplayers know they are there. The way map instances work now, there is a high chance that roleplay could be happening in multiple instances of say Divinity's Reach and no one would ever know it. I've encountered new players to the game who can't even find other roleplayers half the time. It takes knowing someone who can bring you into the proper roleplay shard. If you're roleplaying privately you're never going to meet anyone new and the roleplay community will suffer because it's hard to find each other.

    Honestly just having a roleplay chat option would fix a lot of this. Those who don't want to see roleplayers can turn that off and those wanting to find roleplayerrs can turn it on. As far as filling up a map, we have just as much right to be there as anyone else.

    Also having something else besides just five guild slots to bring members of the community together. I'm not sure expanding on guild slots (though I'd pay gems for this) is the answer nor exactly giving something specific with roleplayers in mind. It's just that guilds are limited, multiple instances split up potential contacts/those of like interests.

    Ultimately, however, it would be nice if Anet gave roleplayers some attention. Roleplayers immerse themselves into the lore and story of the game in a very in depth way. Many enrich their creativity with the details that Anet offers us and tries to add nuance and flavor in a grand scale. It's not all about ERP, there are roleplayers that never take part in that. They enjoy the game and it's world enough to give it their creative attention. There are many that create story arcs that follow the living world as the episodes release.

  • lokh.2695lokh.2695 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I get that it is anoying, when you want to RP and suddenly lord shinypants shows up and starts to spam skills. Taking the RP to a more private location would help and maybe even improve some of the RP stuff. Not every story has to take place in a major city.

    The only thing I, as a person who couldn't care less about RP in this game, wished for was that RPers took their banter to /w or /d. Having the chatbox spammed by banter in /me, especially given the range of the emote chat, isn't just anoying to non-RPers but also draws attention to the RP in progres.

    Why bother, just delete the official Forum.

  • ullahhallu.8762ullahhallu.8762 Member ✭✭
    edited June 4, 2020

    how does one even troll a role player? all i see them doing is flaunting their pixels in LA or DR

  • @YtseJam.9784 said:
    I would personally want an option to block all RPers... To me this is not part of the game, it is something you guys invented and it annoys me. Why don't you take your spam to a guild chat or something else instead of flooding the maps with your says and emotes? I don't want to read your stories, it is sometimes disgusting and I hate every time I go to a map and get my chat box full of your spam

    they use their pretend characters to go on a virtual date, and let everyone know by spamming map chat with their x kisses and emotes. that is cringe to the next level. how sad

  • Sylum.1806Sylum.1806 Member ✭✭

    @Jackeroo Sundown.7526 said:

    @Dante.1763 said:
    Im a RPer myself and the block function that exists in game is fine enough for me, if you are doing RP so seriously that the model of the player is ruining the scene it may be best to keep it to private instances. In an MMO one cannot and shouldnt expect to be able to avoid players, one has to adapt, and that includes being able to ignore characters intruding on ones session.

    I feel like hiding from the entire community is a pretty awful way to solve the problem. You must haven't had someone stand on you spamming bright particle effects that shake your screen for hours, which I'm happy you haven't had that happen. It happens in DR weekly, at least.

    I don't know man, DR being RP-central is pretty common knowledge. Not to excuse jerks for being jerks and suggest that you guys should give way to the jerks by going somewhere else, but in the grand scheme of things, this is unlikely something that ANet would actively intervene so you might wanna consider RP-ing in other maps. The game is 8 years old and into season 5 of living world, there's plenty of public dead maps around if you don't want to confine your RP to just private instances. Besides, the random events might introduce some spontaneity and improv into your play.

  • Lilyanna.9361Lilyanna.9361 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 5, 2020

    I also noticed this is coming from people that are mostly PVE-centric. News flash: We play this game more than you. We lead your metas, we are pub-stomping you in PvP, pushing your towers in WvW, and directing you in Raids.

    So if you really think Roleplayers are some sort of cringe-fest, then let me retort in that and say I think it's pretty cringe to try and cast out folks who are not ERP centric at all, and instead applying creativity to where it is due. Please flaunt your raid things more, so I can bust out my legendaries and auras and whatever else nonsense because apparently that is what it is coming down to now: childish flaunting and bragging rights.

  • Chasind.3128Chasind.3128 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 5, 2020

    Devs look at RPers like they do WvW players- they don't care & wish you'd just go away.
    I love most RPers, I don't RP myself but I was in an RP guild & my role was to kind of give the warm welcome to new players & basically figure out where they sat as far as the RP event that the guild was currently doing & introduce them. The group was so nice, this was back during the big LA/ scarlet event & we were about 90 players strong. But the RP community always seems to be grasping at straws that don't exist. I say, look forward to Pantheon: rise of the fallen. It's a niche MMO targeted at RPers & players who like to work for the content/ go their own pace.

  • Kurrilino.2706Kurrilino.2706 Member ✭✭✭

    Why not trying GW1?
    Everything outside a city is instanced and you guy could roam and play at your hearts desire

  • I'd be okay with this suggestion if Roleplayers didn't block at the first assumed sign of 'trolling' and didn't use such a loose definition of the word either.

  • Lilyanna.9361Lilyanna.9361 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Lilyanna.9361 said:
    I also noticed this is coming from people that are mostly PVE-centric. News flash: We play this game more than you. We lead your metas, we are pub-stomping you in PvP, pushing your towers in WvW, and directing you in Raids.

    So if you really think Roleplayers are some sort of cringe-fest, then let me retort in that and say I think it's pretty cringe to try and cast out folks who are not ERP centric at all, and instead applying creativity to where it is due. Please flaunt your raid things more, so I can bust out my legendaries and auras and whatever else nonsense because apparently that is what it is coming down to now: childish flaunting and bragging rights.

    That was the most unnecessary rant and flex I've seen in a while. Maybe you were just roleplaying an kitten if so well done

    It's also unnecessary to say RPers should disappear, but you know, we can't have everything that we want now can we?

    If I'm RPing the kitten what are you doing exactly saying my post is unnecessary 🤣 A lot of things said in thread is unnecessary, get over it.

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  • zzzzzzz, no one cares about RPers not even anet cares.

  • Jayden Reese.9542Jayden Reese.9542 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2, 2020

    @Lilyanna.9361 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Lilyanna.9361 said:
    I also noticed this is coming from people that are mostly PVE-centric. News flash: We play this game more than you. We lead your metas, we are pub-stomping you in PvP, pushing your towers in WvW, and directing you in Raids.

    So if you really think Roleplayers are some sort of cringe-fest, then let me retort in that and say I think it's pretty cringe to try and cast out folks who are not ERP centric at all, and instead applying creativity to where it is due. Please flaunt your raid things more, so I can bust out my legendaries and auras and whatever else nonsense because apparently that is what it is coming down to now: childish flaunting and bragging rights.

    That was the most unnecessary rant and flex I've seen in a while. Maybe you were just roleplaying an kitten if so well done

    It's also unnecessary to say RPers should disappear, but you know, we can't have everything that we want now can we?

    If I'm RPing the kitten what are you doing exactly saying my post is unnecessary 🤣 A lot of things said in thread is unnecessary, get over it.

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  • Mortifera.6138Mortifera.6138 Member ✭✭✭

    It’s sad, but it happens.

  • @Kurrilino.2706 said:
    Why not trying GW1?
    Everything outside a city is instanced and you guy could roam and play at your hearts desire

    No way, part of the point of roleplay in a MMO is to find new people to interact with. That's part of the reason people actually RP in public. Is to have the unexpected interaction with someone we've never roleplayed with before. Besides, we shouldn't have to go play there and people want to roleplay charr, asura, sylvari and norn? That is a terrible suggestion.

  • rune.9572rune.9572 Member ✭✭
    edited June 6, 2020

    Is it just me who finds it ironic that OP wants to get rid of other people while at the same time forcing other people to tolerate their shenanigans?

    Public space is a two-way street.

  • Friday.7864Friday.7864 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 6, 2020

    Tbh roleplay kinda creeps me out so I just quickly leave when I see that :)
    I won't bother anyone, but if you're roleplaying in public, and refuse to do it in instances, you should at the very least be aware that some people don't like having their chat filled with rp messages... Sorry to hear that some people are bugging you because of it, but in a public space they have the right to do whatever they want that's within the terms of service, just like you do.
    You should ask for a specific roleplay chat channel or something that's opt in - instead of asking for report features and similar nonsense.

  • AgentMoore.9453AgentMoore.9453 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 6, 2020

    @rune.9572 said:
    OP wants to get rid of other people while at the same time forcing other people to tolerate their shenanigans

    Incorrect.

    The OP is requesting an addition to the block feature that everyone in the game would have the option of using. OP would intend to use it to curate their RP experience, but it would be available to all players for whatever reason they might have. People can already block roleplay out of their chat box, but there is currently no viable way to block the visual noise and effect spam of other players.

    This is a feature that could be useful for roleplayers, but is not intrinsically linked to them. It is a proposed reduction of visual noise.

    (Their second suggested feature is expanded report options, but people have been asking for those for literal years, and no not just RPers either.)

    EDIT: Here's a similar thread with more detail about how an expanded block might work.

  • Melian.5368Melian.5368 Member ✭✭✭

    A great addition to options that would benefit both RPers and streamers is "Don't display players outside of squad when I'm in a squad". Works only on PvE, blocks all chat and emotes from players who are not in squad, turns their nameplates into little triangles like in WvW and makes their character model disappear. The reason for little triangles is because of players who has this option turned on during boss events etc. There is absolutely no reason this couldn't be implemented and it's not even that hard to do either.

  • magnusthorek.8027magnusthorek.8027 Member ✭✭✭

    I'll add to that: Add Character Name next to "Portal Entre" (even though it gets ugly) skill, "yellow portal" from Gizmo as well as Aviator's Box, Box of "Fun" and the trash you sell in Gem Store trolls use to annoy other players. This way we could block that specific person and get rid of all of their childish.

  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Even in squad chat or party, the emote is written in chat if you are close enough. Sometimes there is emotes in map chat, but that's because they emote in map chat. (To get noticed? Not knowing? To troll?) But anyway, one solution for that, add an option to make disapear players and their speech bubbles if out of squad/group. Or outside the map? Rp out of bounds?

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