Yes its a bit sad for me as all the people on my list are friends that i enticed to try gw2. They all quit, game too hard, takes way too long to unlock skills, etc. One bud even said i lied to them about difficulty by the time they got to orr. Heck, i even purchased the game for one guy. It really does take way to long to make a player feel invested in the game though. About the time they start feeling decent, they go to orr, then worse yet (for new players) hot. I had one friend make it that far and got annihilated by epic...uhhh pocket raptors, then a silly mushroom that he could not even scratch. Lol. He left. I wish they would just sink a 1k hrs or so, they can see it can be fun if geared well.