Sansar.1302 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 What if instead of this system we have now we had different maps for different grp size. one map for solo one map for 5 man and another for full sqad ( maby one map for 25 man teams too) And all other than youre grp where the enemy, i belive this is only way to make fights not mainly a contest off who have most players. A way to make skill important 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Over the years many games that had one good generic gamemode moved to more "options" because that's what they thought players wanted. Turns out that just make everything kitten, depopulate the main mode and cause the game to die. Latest case probably being Battlefield 2042 not knowing wtf it's supposed to be rather than just being a conquest Battlefield game. Also a solo mode for WvW? You really, really, didnt think this through, did you? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Sansar.1302 said: What if instead of this system we have now we had different maps for different grp size. one map for solo one map for 5 man and another for full sqad ( maby one map for 25 man teams too) And all other than youre grp where the enemy, i belive this is only way to make fights not mainly a contest off who have most players. A way to make skill important The maps are the sandbox in this case and impacts how players react to them. I am not sure I understand the issue here. Is it the interaction of the different size groups on a map? That would be my guess based on your idea of differing maps but don't want to assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sansar.1302 said: What if instead of this system we have now we had different maps for different grp size. one map for solo one map for 5 man and another for full sqad ( maby one map for 25 man teams too) And all other than youre grp where the enemy, i belive this is only way to make fights not mainly a contest off who have most players. A way to make skill important So if I get on the solo map, am I the only player for my team on that map fighting against only 2 other players or are there 50 other solo players allowed on and we're all in one location having 50v50v50 solo fights? Edited December 30, 2021 by Chaba.5410 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 At that point it wouldn't be wvw, it would be instanced battlegrounds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 No teams in this wvw redesign only the ppl you play with , so solo would be full map with all other players as enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 What would stop 25 man groups from entering the map for solo players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chaba.5410 said: What would stop 25 man groups from entering the map for solo players? 11 minutes ago, Sansar.1302 said: No teams in this wvw redesign only the ppl you play with , so solo would be full map with all other players as enemy. So…. Free for all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Over the years many games that had one good generic gamemode moved to more "options" because that's what they thought players wanted. Turns out that just make everything kitten, depopulate the main mode and cause the game to die. Latest case probably being Battlefield 2042 not knowing wtf it's supposed to be rather than just being a conquest Battlefield game. Also a solo mode for WvW? You really, really, didnt think this through, did you? PvE is the main mode in gw2 so that should be no problem. I actualy think that with this changes guild wars 2 would get a pvp mode that have a chance to get realy popular ( see fortnite pubg etc ) as it have realy solid fast paced skill based combat, that due to player number issues never get to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chaba.5410 said: What would stop 25 man groups from entering the map for solo players? they would be enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 The diversity and unpredictability of encounters is one of the things that make WvW entertaining. And often a numerically uneven fight is more fair than if all sides had the same amount of players. And if you want to, you can already set up even fights. Duels and GvGs in WvW/EotM/Armistic. Then there is the free for all arena in the PvP lobby which is basically what your "solo WvW" would look like, you have 5vs5 conquest (if you don't want to bother with capture points just play unranked and do whatever you want) and 2vs2/3vs3 deathmatch during offseasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Also a solo mode for WvW? You really, really, didnt think this through, did you? have you heard of a roamer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Stand The Wall.6987 said: have you heard of a roamer? You're still on a side with more than a single player and the implication is that it's either no party, 5 man party or 25 party with nothing in between. Have you heard of roaming with a friend or two? In fact, how would you even make a 5/25 man party if you're not allowed into any other map than the one for no party because you just join WvW? Good luck find any commanders because they can never invite anyone except if they premake the squad in PvE, lol. It's an incredibly poorly thought out system. The point was even to keep it perfectly balance (ie 1v1, 5v5, 25v25) which means that the "solo mode" of WvW would have... 3 players in it. 1 per side. Cant have more because that would instantly unbalance it. Technically it should be 2 players map for perfect 1v1 but we got 3 sides so that's the min. Edited December 30, 2021 by Dawdler.8521 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Dawdler.8521 said: You're still on a side with more than a single player and the implication is that it's either no party, 5 man party or 25 party with nothing in between. Have you heard of roaming with a friend or two? In fact, how would you even make a 5/25 man party if you're not allowed into any other map than the one for no party because you just join WvW? Good luck find any commanders because they can never invite anyone except if they premake the squad in PvE, lol. It's an incredibly poorly thought out system. The point was even to keep it perfectly balance (ie 1v1, 5v5, 25v25) which means that the "solo mode" of WvW would have... 3 players in it. 1 per side. Cant have more because that would instantly unbalance it. Technically it should be 2 players map for perfect 1v1 but we got 3 sides so that's the min. uhh... ok lol. gl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dawdler.8521 said: You're still on a side with more than a single player and the implication is that it's either no party, 5 man party or 25 party with nothing in between. Have you heard of roaming with a friend or two? In fact, how would you even make a 5/25 man party if you're not allowed into any other map than the one for no party because you just join WvW? Good luck find any commanders because they can never invite anyone except if they premake the squad in PvE, lol. It's an incredibly poorly thought out system. The point was even to keep it perfectly balance (ie 1v1, 5v5, 25v25) which means that the "solo mode" of WvW would have... 3 players in it. 1 per side. Cant have more because that would instantly unbalance it. Technically it should be 2 players map for perfect 1v1 but we got 3 sides so that's the min. it would not be WvW more as a replacement for it as it would have no teams so (if map cap is 70+70 +70) then 1v1 map would be about 210 players in a free for all, 5 man map about 40 grps inn a free for all, and 50v50 map 4 full sqads competing Edited December 30, 2021 by Sansar.1302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, Sansar.1302 said: it would not be WvW more as a replacement for it as it would have no teams so (if map cap is 70+70 +70) then 1v1 map would be about 210 players in a free for all, 5 man map about 40 grps inn a free for all, and 50v50 map 4 full sqads competing Which…. Is not ‘WvW’. That is Fortnite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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