iosifd.1563 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I've always wondered whats the point in cripple when chill exists its just way better out of the two the movement speed slash and skill recharge delay is insane especially in competitive game modes, so what am I advocating for? For chill to have its movement speed effect to be completely removed and just have its roll to slow down enemy's skill recharge would be more healthy instead of just having two conditions that just do the same thing but ones better why not separate them even more? 1 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottie.5370 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 So how do you feel about Slow? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zera.9435 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 The REAL problem with things like cripple and chill is their violation of the law of physics about the conservation of momentum. You could be in a mid-air while jumping across platforms, having already built up momentum to clear the gap, but if you get hit with chill while in mid air, it's like you hit a soft wall and there goes your momentum and you just fall to your doom. 4 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Zera Allimatti.2541 said: The REAL problem with things like cripple and chill is their violation of the law of physics about the conservation of momentum. You could be in a mid-air while jumping across platforms, having already built up momentum to clear the gap, but if you get hit with chill while in mid air, it's like you hit a soft wall and there goes your momentum and you just fall to your doom. How dare you inject reality into my fantasy! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zera.9435 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, kharmin.7683 said: How dare you inject reality into my fantasy! I do what I want! 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Soul.5617 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Lottie.5370 said: So how do you feel about Slow? It's slow 2 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labjax.2465 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Zera Allimatti.2541 said: The REAL problem with things like cripple and chill is their violation of the law of physics about the conservation of momentum. You could be in a mid-air while jumping across platforms, having already built up momentum to clear the gap, but if you get hit with chill while in mid air, it's like you hit a soft wall and there goes your momentum and you just fall to your doom. The other problem with them is that it's annoying to get crippled or chilled by average mobs all the time, but that's just me. I need an ability that reflects the cripple and/or chill back and causes the offending mob to explode in a big ball of fire. That would be satisfying. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue.8235 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Zera Allimatti.2541 said: The REAL problem with things like cripple and chill is their violation of the law of physics about the conservation of momentum. You could be in a mid-air while jumping across platforms, having already built up momentum to clear the gap, but if you get hit with chill while in mid air, it's like you hit a soft wall and there goes your momentum and you just fall to your doom. Pssst... should we tell him about the millions of violations of the second law of thermodynamics? Maybe he hasn't noticed that magic users aren't combusting into massive fiery balls of death. 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zera.9435 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rogue.8235 said: Pssst... should we tell him about the millions of violations of the second law of thermodynamics? Maybe he hasn't noticed that magic users aren't combusting into massive fiery balls of death. 😛 I haven't taken physics 3 yet! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 So we just delete swiftness as well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcShriek.5829 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Zera Allimatti.2541 said: The REAL problem with things like cripple and chill is their violation of the law of physics about the conservation of momentum. You could be in a mid-air while jumping across platforms, having already built up momentum to clear the gap, but if you get hit with chill while in mid air, it's like you hit a soft wall and there goes your momentum and you just fall to your doom. It's call magic, not physics. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zera.9435 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, DarcShriek.5829 said: It's call magic, not physics. It's called hyperbole big guy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zera.9435 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, Khisanth.2948 said: So we just delete swiftness as well? We should just delete all boons and just permanently quadruple everyone's base stats. To hell with boon upkeep. Just KILL KILL KILL! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayHog.3280 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, kharmin.7683 said: How dare you inject reality into my fantasy! In the words of a D&D meme, "It's not about making it realistic, it's about making it convincing". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 11 hours ago, iosifd.1563 said: I've always wondered whats the point in cripple when chill exists its just way better out of the two I've always wondered whats the point in chill when immobilize exists its just way better out of the two (zero punctuation feels weird) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxez.7361 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, KrHome.1920 said: I've always wondered whats the point in chill when immobilize exists its just way better out of the two (zero punctuation feels weird) I always wondered what's the point of immobilize when float exists and it's just more fun in general. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge shot Grif.6450 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Lottie.5370 said: So how do you feel about Slow? I will be forever angry that slow and quickness don't just cancel eachother out. It'd make sense and it'd be a neat/unique interaction but NOOOOOO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iosifd.1563 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 kitten are people always like this on here? XD But yeah legit, i dont see nothing wrong with it keep that good old chill effect just no movement speed debuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MileVual.9241 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 When reaper first came out they tried something different with chill, transforming it into a DoT condi that at certain amount of certains actual FREEZES and completely IMMOBILIZING the target for a few seconds, this caused lots of issues and bugs in PVP so they completely removed it and change it into the boring chill = bleed we have today.....now that PVP and PVE are more seperate than they have ever been these days i really wish they would bring this flavor back to reaper for PVE and just leave it out of pvp so we dont have the bugs/issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman.4280 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 12 hours ago, MileVual.9241 said: at certain amount of certains I'm not certain about that. Look I like chill. I've been chilled for years. We need a new condition, call it "Cheezy". It's not easy being cheezy. It'll provide us L33t players with a bigger challenge. We need this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Cripple and Chill aren't the same, its like comparing Bleeding to Burning. One is much more effective, but has alot shorter duration and thus has to be used as a well-timed burst, while the other is frequently applied at long durations and pressures the enemy player into using their cleanse to get rid of it instead of waiting it out. They also convert to completely different boons in competitive modes. Chill is the more risky condition to use because it converts to Alacrity, which is always fun at Stonemist Castle. Edited June 25, 2022 by Hannelore.8153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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