Whiskey.1932 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 1. Match start 2. Unknown class switched to thief while q, so we now have 2 thieves in team 3. Ask One thief to change, anyone reacts 4. Ofc we team get smashed at mid at 4vs3 or 5v3 while both thief run around the map 5. Thief blame team to be not able to hold mid 6. Scre w it Edit: Thief cant cap far OR close because 1 Roamer from enemy team can handle both Edit2: If you want to help at sides, Thief go mid and die instant Edited October 14, 2022 by Whiskey.1932 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VyPR.3412 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) It's never ok, period. You don't get to ruin 10 minutes of 4 other people's day and get a pass. Ever. Edited October 15, 2022 by VyPR.3412 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPT.7431 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 It's not okay and if you do that without a good cause (like an emergency, or the game crashing or whatever) you're a douchebag. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoXLike.9073 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 if u go afk ur an kitten and should be leaving pvp. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTGuevara.9018 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Whiskey.1932 said: 1. Match start 2. Unknown class switched to thief while q, so we now have 2 thieves in team 3. Ask One thief to change, anyone reacts 4. Ofc we team get smashed at mid at 4vs3 or 5v3 while both thief run around the map 5. Thief blame team to be not able to hold mid 6. Scre w it Edit: Thief cant cap far OR close because 1 Roamer from enemy team can handle both Edit2: If you want to help at sides, Thief go mid and die instant So, two things: 1. The switching of classes should not even EXIST. 2. No sir. It is NOT ok. You do not get to ruin peoples' pretense of fun, even if pvp is in flames. There are humans behind that screen. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycura.1982 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Quote You're a quitter and don't know how to swing matches back in your favor. I came here to laugh at you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralarius Zenith.6879 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 AFK-ing won't solve your problems. In fact, you would add as a problem to others and wasting their time and effort as well. Sometimes, it would take time to turn the tides of the match to your favor, and AFKing would waste the chance to do that. I remember a match where I got into a game late because I was stuck in the loading screen. When I got in the game my team was losing currently in a 4v5 and of course I apologized because this and that... anyways, because they didn't give up, we still managed to make a comeback and ended up winning the match. It's not that I say that I carried them, the point is that having all of the team participating instead of afking and giving up makes a huge difference not only in the quality of the match and the winning potential as a whole. So please, do not AFK in SPvP matches. You queued, so you should play. :)) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx.5021 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 It is not all about players. Anet removed incentive to keep playing uneven matches. That is bad game design. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrowEschatologist.6214 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I think the desire to get out is worsened by low population and awful matchmaking. I'm a relatively new player to PvP, maybe 5 weeks, and I'm not that good. Still ended up in gold 3 playing with and against names in the top 100 - which is not okay. Generally such games are a total curbstomp with the higher ranked players cussing out us newbies / baddies nonstop. There is no incentive to do anything in such a situation except collect my loss reward and move on. It's not even as good as World of Tanks (which sets a very low bar for both player behaviour and incentive structure) as there is no 'valiant defence' reward for topping the scoreboard on the losing team. Expecting players to be free content and get chain farmed whilst being flamed out by the veterans seems perverse at best. Why wouldn't they AFK it out? Just to be clear, I think I have AFKd once after 2 of my team were autorunning in the spawn corner, but going 3v5 whilst being spawncamped isn't an exactly an attractive proposition. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Instead of AFK'ing, just feed points to the enemy or LEAVE THE GAME. Or better yet, just stop queue'ing for sPvP, as you have no will to play at all. AFK'ing is the worst thing you can do (outside of actually cheating) and it's never okay. Edited October 15, 2022 by Fueki.4753 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman.6930 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Look, since there isn't a leave-arena-button, AFK is the best thing you can do in this situation, if you wanna calm down your nerves. While waiting till the nightmare is over, you can do many other things. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) It would be nice if there was an early surrender option. Especially for games where someone afks. There needs to be a better auto detect system in place for this to work though. Autorunning into a wall or spamming skills in base should still flag you inactive. Let people leave that game and move on. Edited October 15, 2022 by Kuma.1503 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Roman.6930 said: Look, since there isn't a leave-arena-button, AFK is the best thing you can do in this situation, if you wanna calm down your nerves. You can also quit the game in that situation. And that's the superior option, if one doesn't want to participate properly. AFK'ing is literally the worst thing to do. Anyone trying to justify AFK'ing should just keep out of the mode. Edited October 16, 2022 by Fueki.4753 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Going AFK is never OK. Well, there are real-life emergencies that ofc require you to leave your game. If you want AFK, just don't join PvP or any other multiplayer. Players are allowed to play any class they like, and apparently ANet allows you to switch after join so that's fine as well. Terrible matches aren't a valid reason as well. This is a risk you took when clicking the join PvP button. Just continue to play, take the loss like a grown up and move on to the next match. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssisis.3971 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 It’s allowed due to every other form of cheating being allowed to occur without punishment by anet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman.6930 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheQuickFox.3826 said: Going AFK is never OK. [...] Yeah... It's also not OK when in rated team members playing like bricks, ignoring the simpliest mechanics (capturing points ect.) and dropping dead like flies over and over again. So what shall I do in this situation? Keep on playing punching bag? I don't want to. Edited October 16, 2022 by Roman.6930 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellhunter.9675 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 9:49 PM, Fueki.4753 said: You can also quit the game in that situation. You can play 4v5 and have your "fun". If I don't see realistic way to win a match, I see no point to keep playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Spellhunter.9675 said: You can play 4v5 and have your "fun". If I don't see realistic way to win a match, I see no point to keep playing it. Then you should simply leave the game. If you don't want to play, you should not be there at all. There's no need or remotely respectable reason to be a bacon cavity and maliciously make your team members lose rating points. Edited October 17, 2022 by Fueki.4753 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellhunter.9675 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, Fueki.4753 said: There's no need or remotely respectable reason to be a bacon cavity and maliciously make your team members lose rating points. When there will not be gold players in my matches, when there will not be players who die 5 times in 6 minutes in y matches, when there will not be "fight on point guys" in my matches, I'll stop going afk. It's not me going afk makes them lose rating. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Spellhunter.9675 said: When there will not be gold players in my matches, when there will not be players who die 5 times in 6 minutes in y matches, when there will not be "fight on point guys" in my matches, I'll stop going afk. It's not me going afk makes them lose rating. If you really think that way, just do everyone a favour and stay out of sPvP. Edited October 17, 2022 by Fueki.4753 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Go afk in pve or wvw. In spvp its not OK. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 It's funny cuz in my experience it's not just players that afk due to a impending loss that's the issue it's the over all mentality that a overwhelmingly amount of players have that queue for unranked is also a huge issue. I have almost as many instances where a players afk's at the start of the match than in chat says "sry just wanted to take care of somthing", now match is 50-250. why queue if ur in this situation? If a irl emergency happens than by all means of course it's just a game but players in this game are so ignorant to the fact there's other 4 players time being invested into the match. There are some reasonable things that happen that afking can't be avoided but the vast majority it's just players that are either ignorant with 0 regard for other players time or are butt hurt that the match isn't going their way. So I'd say somtimes asking is ok but the majority of the time is is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoXLike.9073 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Dont go AFK, do alt+f4 and save the points for ur team. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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