Karagee.6830 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) Most boring server to play. While outnumbered on pretty much every map earlier today, we had a kdr of 2.7 over 2 skirmishes, most kills coming from people on Baruch Bay (also Riverside players are beginning to seem like rare mythical creatures, rumoured to exist, but nobody ever sees them). Then at night Baruch Bay outnumber both opponents 40/50 to 1 and you end up with a PPT tick of 440/10/0. The sad thing is that even by covering time zones that are usually fairly empty on EU and the fact they run in groups they are so bad that they can't even stay in T4. Just lock them. And consider giving them a link. At least they may get some competent people through the link or if they are on their own maybe it will force them to become better at fighting. Alternatively just transfer them to NA: they play at NA times anyway, we don't have to die of boredom every other week, just make them a NA problem. Farming them is so boring that when you see a cele harbinger+soulbeast together you still take the 1v2 because you know the odds are in your favour. This is not normal. Please fix it one way or another. Edited November 16, 2022 by Karagee.6830 4 1 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Is this Gankdara talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 Just now, Dawdler.8521 said: Is this Gankdara talking? I can't stomp so I can't gank. Don't forget. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Is baruch bay still the spanish speaking server that gather spanish and south american people? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorani.7205 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Dadnir.5038 said: Is baruch bay still the spanish speaking server that gather spanish and south american people? Yes and with Baruch Bay being the only Spanish language server (and NA having no dedicated Spanish server AFAIK) it is home to a lot of native Spanish speaker from the Americas. That's why they can pull off those "Mexican Night Caps" with ease. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Dadnir.5038 said: Is baruch bay still the spanish speaking server that gather spanish and south american people? Yes and it's never Full for that reason, unlike everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Xenesis.6389 said: 🙄 Close everyone but me. Wait…. Is this an ‘Open BG’ thread??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I really feel for BB. They never get a link, no wonder their population is more concentrated in a small time period (per day). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFShinigami.1572 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Friday and Saturday, nobody has more than Gandara on ANY server in EU during NA prime time. The only difference is BB has a commander all week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SFShinigami.1572 said: Friday and Saturday, nobody has more than Gandara on ANY server in EU during NA prime time. The only difference is BB has a commander all week. This is false. 1. Gandara does not have queues on Friday and Saturday evening and this is a FACT. 2. It's not just BB that outnumbers Gandara even on Friday and Saturday. Desolation has similar numbers (perhaps slightly less) and AM traditionally also has about the same. BB is much higher than anyone else, including Gandara and all of the above 3. This week and 2 weeks ago Baruch Bay had 2 different blobs both equal in numbers to Cormac's lonely tag st the weekend. And because he spent his time porting and defending (see no queue for a large tag swapping between EB and home border?), our kdr skyrocketed. Wipe one blob, move, wipe the other, rinse and repeat. And that's in the evening: later at night BB numbers stay the same or increase, while the opponents are fewer and fewer. Either way the thread is not about limiting their numbers (that seems obvious, but it's largely irrelevant since they significantly outnumber only the 2 linkless servers), it's about forcing some change to make them more normal. Give them a link so they can go in higher tiers where with even numbers will average a 0.5 kdr and get farmed day and night. This server shouldn't exist in its current form. Why is there no spanish server on NA? Why do we have to suffer through boredom and weird/lopsided time coverage forced down our throats because the current system (and BB lack of skilled players) ensures horrible mobility through the tiers and imbalances at every level? Edited November 17, 2022 by Karagee.6830 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Svarty.8019 said: I really feel for BB. They never get a link, no wonder their population is more concentrated in a small time period (per day). A link for everyone? Open all linkless servers, so at least there will be 3 servers with similar numbers? I think any competent server with numbers like BB, would be a middle of the pack team, rather than yo-yoing between T5 and T4. But just try something new. Give them the smallest link and see how it goes. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, Karagee.6830 said: I think any competent server with numbers like BB, would be a middle of the pack team, rather than yo-yoing between T5 and T4. You'd think so but then again Gandara. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Alliances are on its slow way … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehenna.3625 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dayra.7405 said: Alliances are on its slow way … or so they say and I doubt it will solve these issues. I think this is more about automation on Anet's side than actual balancing of population. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) BB is always open, as it's the only server marked spanish, and it's not obvious to newbies that this has nothing to do with their normal (PvE) gaming experience. Alliances will remove Server, so the BB problem will disappear. Any Alliances-Beta-Match was more balanced than the usual EU T1 (imbalance due to overstacking) and T5 (imbalance as we have only 12 minor- for 15 major-server). Edited November 17, 2022 by Dayra.7405 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Players complaining to something that is intended in game. :P Expect massive organized alliance vs randoms RNG aliances of no guild players and small guilds to keep the same Ktrain lvl ;), or big alliances vs empty alliances... sooon. Edited November 17, 2022 by Aeolus.3615 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: You'd think so but then again Gandara. Yeah, yeah and incompetent engis whining about thieves' stealth. The world is full of mysteries. Besides what about it? We are nowhere near the population of BB (at best we're 30% smaller) and very likely also below the population of a few other servers. And even if you wanted to say Gandarans are generally incompetent, the last time we had a link we were comfortably in T1 (with FR), we didn't duck anyone and, when they finally arrived, we stayed ahead of the stackatron GH+WSR both in score and in kdr most of the week (the the difference in numbers that was already there at the weekend, became insurmountable during the week. We had hardly any queue at the weekend also). Anyone else that relink got farmed by them. Wait, it just occurred to me, it logically follows that unless you're one of the good frenchies, you're either a bandwagoner or play on a worse server than Gandara! And btw, I'd be happy to bet the last server to beat BB while not linked was Gandara. However the problem of the current system is that the other servers also don't play when unlinked and it's almost impossible to win a match that is not WvWvW but WvW (1v1) against someone outnumbering you that much. You need at least the 3rd server to play ball. Edited November 17, 2022 by Karagee.6830 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Dayra.7405 said: Alliances are on its slow way … If ever... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Aeolus.3615 said: Players complaining to something that is intended in game. 😛 Expect massive organized alliance vs randoms RNG aliances of no guild players and small guilds to keep the same Ktrain lvl ;), or big alliances vs empty alliances... sooon. What's intented? Servers of higly farmable stock allowed to grow with no criteria? Since they are the only exception in the entire game, I beg to differ. Give them a link, at least they will learn from the linked server. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muerte.3842 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) What BB problem? https://ibb.co/RcXGHw2 Surely working as intended? I mean you don't want a fair matchup do you? I mean BB having squads that can take your bay, hills and garri on home / EB at the same time while you try and defend with less than 10 people is not an issue right? (each squad with 30+) Edited November 17, 2022 by muerte.3842 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 13 hours ago, Karagee.6830 said: A link for everyone? Everyone except Gandara. They are exploiters of the system and deserve no link. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Svarty.8019 said: Everyone except Gandara. They are exploiters of the system and deserve no link. yeah the exploiters who got no link 8 months out of 12? Sounds legit mate... you wanna spot when Gandara tanks (and it's happened for a few weeks in the last 2 years when people got fed up of not having a link, nobody has ever been quiet about it)? It's very easy: watch as the number of 'Full' servers magically goes from 2-3 to 8... Edited November 18, 2022 by Karagee.6830 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karagee.6830 Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, muerte.3842 said: What BB problem? https://ibb.co/RcXGHw2 Surely working as intended? I mean you don't want a fair matchup do you? I mean BB having squads that can take your bay, hills and garri on home / EB at the same time while you try and defend with less than 10 people is not an issue right? (each squad with 30+) but that map's not even that bad: they will get enemy garrisons to T2 and T3 because they have so many people that have nothing to do and so they defend those! 🙂 I mean, I've seen the map on weekdays around this time or later... And next week they will be farmed by equal or superior number teams and will be last again. Nothing new, but something needs to be done. Edited November 18, 2022 by Karagee.6830 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenzy.9348 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Funny how bitter you sound that you resort to make a generalization and call all Baruch players bad while also making an underhanded flex about you killing them while outnumbered, very petty and immature. Baruch has some extremely competent players. Funny that at the times I play (noon and early afternoon) we (Baruch) are the ones always extremely outnumbered and I (a solo roamer) have 99,99% of my deaths while outnumbered and ganked 3 to 1 at a bare minimum. Our perspectives seem to be diametrically opposed huh? Baruch just has a few more people at night but it's completely barren and outnumbered at the times I play. It's a server with different time peaks, it doesn't make it any better or worse than any other server, just different. Edited November 18, 2022 by Khenzy.9348 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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