Nokturnal Lunacy.3186 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 SMC lord righteous indignation ended at approx. 10:38. IOJ capped at 10:39. Hmmmmmmm.............................................................. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin.4501 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, Nokturnal Lunacy.3186 said: SMC lord righteous indignation ended at approx. 10:38. IOJ capped at 10:39. Hmmmmmmm.............................................................. I generally avoid EBG like the plague so I could be wrong here, but when SMC flips I thought it doesn't apply the marked to enemy players inside the way keeps do, correct? So if no one bothered to sweep and a mesmer/thief was still inside inner, they could very easily portal in more players, including more mesmers to portal in a larger group and flip SMC again within a minute. And considering how lazy the general WvW population is nowadays about doing the menial tasks like sweeping/repairing/scouting, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 56 minutes ago, Ronin.4501 said: I generally avoid EBG like the plague so I could be wrong here, but when SMC flips I thought it doesn't apply the marked to enemy players inside the way keeps do, correct? So if no one bothered to sweep and a mesmer/thief was still inside inner, they could very easily portal in more players, including more mesmers to portal in a larger group and flip SMC again within a minute. And considering how lazy the general WvW population is nowadays about doing the menial tasks like sweeping/repairing/scouting, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. It doesn't apply mark. Also if the rams on inner are still up you can get gates down before RI wears off, RI is only for the lord not everything else, 5 mins is more than enough time to get back in. Also alacrity and quickness. Also Indo boon blob. Also boon blobs running over everything like it's nothing, as usual, gg. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedievalThings.5417 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) With lots of dps it would appear. Edited November 27, 2022 by Ubi.4136 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Nokturnal Lunacy.3186 said: SMC lord righteous indignation ended at approx. 10:38. IOJ capped at 10:39. Hmmmmmmm.............................................................. A full zerg waiting at lord for RI could burn down the NPC in a minute. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Just now, TheGrimm.5624 said: A full zerg waiting at lord for RI could burn down the NPC in a minute. Especially if that zerg brings the dps to overcome scaling instead of being 70/30 minstrels like the average boonball. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Especially if that zerg brings the dps to overcome scaling instead of being 70/30 minstrels like the average boonball. Even more true that. Add in infusions and all the faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPotato.7456 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 all these people trying to justify something that is impossible, next time take a video. 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thron Stal.9367 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 23 hours ago, Nokturnal Lunacy.3186 said: SMC lord righteous indignation ended at approx. 10:38. IOJ capped at 10:39. Hmmmmmmm.............................................................. That's the new Meta from Anet! I watched their videos, lets all join a giant blob! They designed it this way! Have fun! hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 hours ago, SweetPotato.7456 said: all these people trying to justify something that is impossible, next time take a video. Sorry but that just speaks of your inexperience if you've never seen the enemy or your own team take down the lord quickly after RI. Break his bar with cc or ram, alacrity/quickness, run high dps specs not all cele/minstrels, no defending zerg to scale him up more. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chichimec.9364 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said: Sorry but that just speaks of your inexperience if you've never seen the enemy or your own team take down the lord quickly after RI. Break his bar with cc or ram, alacrity/quickness, run high dps specs not all cele/minstrels, no defending zerg to scale him up more. I was wondering if I was just being naive or was missing something because I didn't see anything wrong with a cap going that fast. This comment nailed it though from what I've seen. While I don't go to EBG very often, I have been on the borderland maps with groups who have waited out the RI on camps, towers, and keeps. The supervisor or lord usually melts pretty quickly in such situations. Why wouldn't a comped group who knew what they were doing be able to cap the SMC lord that fast? Edited November 28, 2022 by Chichimec.9364 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chichimec.9364 said: I was wondering if I was just being naive or was missing something because I didn't see anything off about a cap going that fast. This comment nailed it though from what I've seen. While I don't go to EBG very often, I have been on the borderland maps with groups who have waited out the RI on camps, towers, and keeps. The supervisor or lord usually melts pretty quickly in such situations. Why wouldn't a comped group who knew what they were doing be able to cap SMC that fast? SMC lord is like the biggest damage sponge in wvw, so people must think it always takes like 3-5mins to kill him. But the scaling makes a big difference, quickness also makes a huge difference, every time I pop quickness on my chrono on the group I can see how much faster the % drops on lords, even without a broken bar, so imagine if a coordinated group does it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bariel.3562 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Fairly easily, after a cap SM stays contested for a couple of mins so it's the perfect time to get through the walls/gates as teams will often cap it and head straight out onto another objective. Break that CC-bar and you'll be surprised just how quickly the lord drops, most unorganised groups seem to drop their big damage skills though before the break bar is depleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoranium.6481 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I've dropped sm lord with 8 people in about 45 seconds, lowest scaling he drops fast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) within a blob ive(blob) taken smc t3 from outer to kill the lord in less than 3 minutes, soemthing arorund 2 minuts and half. Arround 40 seconds to breach outter which i belive can be made faster since we were not using all avaliable gimmicks avaliable in game to get carried with structure damage, i belive i can be taken down arround 20ish seconds or so. Another 30 seconds to inner gate, can be taken faster i believe. And about another 30-40 seconds or slightly more to melt lord, the defiant bar was insta vanishing due the amount of players workign on it. When enemy blob responded cap ring was already in its final cap % This is all that takes to blob a t3 struture. 5 hours ago, Xoranium.6481 said: I've dropped sm lord with 8 people in about 45 seconds, lowest scaling he drops fast Depends build and how fast u can remove the defiant, fastest lord kill in smc was arround 10ish seconds with 15-20 players. With a massive zerg comited to lord never saw it last more than 50-60 seconds was always between 30-40ish seconds. Edited November 28, 2022 by Aeolus.3615 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Xenesis.6389 said: Sorry but that just speaks of your inexperience if you've never seen the enemy or your own team take down the lord quickly after RI. Break his bar with cc or ram, alacrity/quickness, run high dps specs not all cele/minstrels, no defending zerg to scale him up more. Yea, but I imagine most people don't fight keep/SMC lords outside of blob fights most of the time. It's also unintutive that allies scale a lord up A mid-sized group can definitely be better, since it won't scale that much and there's usually a lot of deadweight in bigger squads. When we were linked with Dragonbrand, for example, we pretty much had to tell them to get out of the lord's room because they were scaling it up too much. Although some of their organized guilds are extremely good at dpssing undefended lords. (And SBI is also famous for having pugs running zdps builds. Or zhp really) Edited November 28, 2022 by ArchonWing.9480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa.5630 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Aeolus.3615 said: This is all that takes to blob a t3 struture. If the op is talking about RI wanst a t3 structure, and blobs always use the max siege posible to ninja ppt. At s smc u can use 5 catas ish+ 5-6 inner rams at the same time, and thats if they forgot the golems in another place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPotato.7456 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) On 11/28/2022 at 12:51 PM, Xenesis.6389 said: Sorry but that just speaks of your inexperience if you've never seen the enemy or your own team take down the lord quickly after RI. Break his bar with cc or ram, alacrity/quickness, run high dps specs not all cele/minstrels, no defending zerg to scale him up more. I will admit I can never take down the lord even with a squad in 0.01 second. I will also admit I cannot capture the ring after the Keep's Lord is down within 0.01 second. The thread started said the time frame of capturing SMC happens within 0.01 second. Yet everyone argues that this can happens and make it like it is normal. I just don't think that is possible. unless the players capturing is OP as hell or hacking. doing both in 0.01 second. just think about it. RI off @ 10.38, SMC flipped @ 10.39 that's a total of 0.01 second. I just don't think that is possible. Hence why I said take a video. Edited December 3, 2022 by SweetPotato.7456 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, SweetPotato.7456 said: I will admit I can never take down the lord even with a squad in 0.01 second. I will also admit I cannot capture the ring aftre the Keep's Lord is down within 0.01 second. The thread started said the time frame of capturing SMC happens within 0.01 second. Yet everyone argues that this can happens and make it like it is normal. I just don't think that is possible. unless the players capturing is OP as hell or hacking. Timestamp in the game go by clock settings, so Hour:Minute TZ, There's No Seconds Counter. 🤷♂️ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPotato.7456 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xenesis.6389 said: Timestamp in the game go by clock settings, so Hour:Minute TZ, There's No Seconds Counter. 🤷♂️ The guy must have been looking at his own clock. Its literally impossible to do all that in 0.01 second. incase you missed it On 11/27/2022 at 12:44 PM, Nokturnal Lunacy.3186 said: SMC lord righteous indignation ended at approx. 10:38. IOJ capped at 10:39. Hmmmmmmm.............................................................. Edited December 3, 2022 by SweetPotato.7456 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SweetPotato.7456 said: The guy must have been looking at his own clock. Its literally impossible to do all that in 0.01 second. incase you missed it jfc If the 38 and 39 are seconds then what's the 10? mins? where's the hour? Just stop ok. Even the title says in less than a minute, not second. Edited December 3, 2022 by Xenesis.6389 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPotato.7456 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said: jfc If the 38 and 39 are seconds then what's the 10? mins? where's the hour? Just stop ok. Even the title says in less than a minute, not second. time on their mini map is my guess 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, SweetPotato.7456 said: time on their mini map is my guess That shows hour minute pm/am You're going on ignore. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, SweetPotato.7456 said: time on their mini map is my guess Sweet, I think Nok was using time in game timer and referring to a min. Or at least I assumed that when replying, might be wrong but took it as a min. Which I have seen done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPotato.7456 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said: That shows hour minute pm/am You're going on ignore. Says the person who doesn't know how to read a digital clock. 10:38 << 38 minutes passed 10 oclock. It only shows pm/am if you set your clock 24 hours, therfore you really cannot tell if thats am or pm if you don't know what the player set their clock to. Edited December 3, 2022 by SweetPotato.7456 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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