zyra.7860 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 How we balance ranger's one shot combo with pig pet? Its not very healthy in competitive gamemode to have CC pull + immob + 8-10k damage burst with one skill? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endo.1652 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Just dodge 1 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 we don't 🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Considering what happened to cata First sword 2 and 3 get 25% dmg nerf Then they get +20% cd Then he rolls the dice to know which 3 core traits to nerf After 6 month he nerfs boar merge dmg, which is strictly related to soulbeast and could have been nerfed in the first round of nerfs 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduronex.4865 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Don't forget Chrono stealth 100-0 bursts O.o 2 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) dam, ranger mains are quiet all of a sudden, eh? Edited July 26, 2023 by Sahne.6950 1 13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just stun better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Maul (merged) : The cd is fine. The damage could to go to 1.8 for this cd (~20% nerf). I am not sure how it would play out but spacing the 2 hits with 0.25s could also be an option. It might feel weird. Prelude lash : This one is hard for me to change. It is literally the only way to land some of the self root skills + is one of the few teamfight skills + is tied to the worst archetype (versatile) + has a long cd + is close combat. With that said lets try. I think the cast time could stay the same if the effect had a delay. Either cast time unchanged + 0.5s delay or cast time goes to 0.5 and delay is 0.25. With this cast time / delay you still have a setup that allows you to chain skills and is easier to dodge. If you want to remove the immob I would add something else otherwise it becomes REALLY underwhelming for this kind of cd. Maybe make it a tether to where the ranger was when the skill triggered (at the end of the delay). Edited July 26, 2023 by aymnad.9023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas.8715 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 PVP is a mess and Anet doesn't care. End of story. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magizen.7842 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, zyra.7860 said: How we balance ranger's one shot combo with pig pet? Its not very healthy in competitive gamemode to have CC pull + immob + 8-10k damage burst with one skill? Maybe a pull shouldn't have a 1/4 cast time (even faster with quickness) for a CC skill that also immobs you. Either nerf the cast time or remove the immob then a slight nerf to pet maul, even I can't contain my grin whenever I land a 10-12k burst on one skill mid CC+Immob it just feels dirty. I think sword needs a tiny bit dmg nerf and pig F3 then I think the build is pretty balanced. Edited July 26, 2023 by Magizen.7842 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Oh I got this! Ahem... Nerf Sword evades Nerf Greatsword cds Nerf Longbow 2 Nerf two sets of traits Nerf all of the porcines and felines Nerf Druid, then a couple of Core Ranger utilities THENNNNN nerf the quickness, immob, and pig. VIOLA! The Cata treatment :DDD P.S. kitten, those Ranger mains sure are silent right now. Actual crickets. Crazy how some of them actually can't keep that same energy across all classes, and when they get called out they act like the forums don't exist. 4 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semak.7481 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Magizen.7842 said: Maybe a pull shouldn't have a 1/4 cast time (even faster with quickness) for a CC skill that also immobs you. Either nerf the cast time or remove the immob then a slight nerf to pet maul, even I can't contain my grin whenever I land a 10-12k burst on one skill mid CC+Immob it just feels dirty. I think sword needs a tiny bit dmg nerf and pig F3 then I think the build is pretty balanced. Only 10-12? Friend of mine was showing off with 16 (you know its all my health :>) Edited July 26, 2023 by semak.7481 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asket.5674 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Ele mains at least knew cata was stupidly rigged. Most even begged for cata nerfs. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie.9143 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 you nerf the pig pet and increase the cooldown on smoke field, 10% dmg nerfs to sword. maybe redesign birds on warhorn. anything more and ranger will fade away back into nothing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I hate to be that guy, but... when the pig tries to get at you, have you tried parking it like its hot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoWantsAHug.3186 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Eddie.9143 said: you nerf the pig pet and increase the cooldown on smoke field, 10% dmg nerfs to sword. maybe redesign birds on warhorn. anything more and ranger will fade away back into nothing lol Soulbeast isn't that OP. A few small adjustments will be enough while still keeping ranger as a whole competitive. Maul, pull, griffin stance nerfs would be enough. Throw in slight coefficient nerfs on sword for good measure. Edited July 28, 2023 by WhoWantsAHug.3186 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandzibar.5134 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, WhoWantsAHug.3186 said: Maul, pull, griffin stance nerfs would be enough. Griffin stance is now OP? That 30sec to 25sec CD change suddenly made it OP after 2 years of never being used (except maybe by Eura)? ? Edited July 28, 2023 by Sandzibar.5134 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 just half de boar f1 dmg, maybe a cd increase i the aoe pull. Outside that only sword 2 is a bit overtune consistently hitting 7k in such a low cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 depending on what direction they want to go, its best to nerf either cd or damage not both like cmc did with the megapatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 @Eddie.9143 i would then say Welcome on the warr side. Just Play full Defence and try to not die kekw xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asket.5674 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 6:19 AM, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said: I hate to be that guy, but... when the pig tries to get at you, have you tried parking it like its hot? Lol, good luck trying that. I frequently get hit by maul from pets, that are 600+ units away. Its stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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