Adzekul.3104 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) This feels like a puzzling choice. Also, colour me disappointed with the limited changes compared to the previous set of rewards (specifically, all the "noob traps" remain: T5 mats, obsidian shards and lesser essence of gold, to name a few). EDIT: To be clear, set 2 contains: Quip (same as set 1) Bolt (same as set 1) The Predator The Moot Edited November 7, 2023 by Adzekul.3104 9 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthon.5394 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Why does it feel puzzling? As far as I understand the one in the first season didn't go to the Legacy rewards. It's there to offer the old choices for those that missed it. Any legendary offered will be cumulatively added to the Kit. 1 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugg.6875 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Arthon.5394 said: Why does it feel puzzling? As far as I understand the one in the first season didn't go to the Legacy rewards. It's there to offer the old choices for those that missed it. Any legendary offered will be cumulatively added to the Kit. but then there are 2 missing, as it was also 4 last time. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2X Quip for the upcoming Thief PP builds? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthon.5394 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Ah, was it? Don't remember. My bad. If a bug, we'll get clarification soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nondesu.3986 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 i guess because you can dual wield quip and bolt idk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaiden.9726 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Yea, that is a bit disappointing. I was deciding between Bolt and Bifrost in the first kit and ultimately went with Bolt. If I had known Bolt was going to be an option in the second starter kit, I would have gone with Bifrost... 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serephen.3420 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I believe it is because guardian is getting dual pistols and necro dual swords. So you are able to double up on the legendaries. All the weapons in the pack so far are ones that are being unlocked next in a later update. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idpersona.3810 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Serephen.3420 said: All the weapons in the pack so far are ones that are being unlocked next in a later update. That's why I had expected the new 4 to be Mace, Axe, Rifle, and Shortbow. Guess I was half right. This is disappointing though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jianyu.7065 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 What do you mean by "noob traps" - there is an excess of acclaim.... 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jianyu.7065 said: What do you mean by "noob traps" - there is an excess of acclaim.... It's a buzz term players like to use even if inaccurate 5 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMeister.4758 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 IMHO they simply wanted to limit the available "free" legendaries. Kinda ok with it, as I waited and can now choose both Meterologicus and Bolt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Sweet! I can grab Moot. Is this better than moot loot? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanek.5983 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, HawkMeister.4758 said: Kinda ok with it, as I waited and can now choose both Meterologicus and Bolt. Heh. Same thing I did. I never trust community assumptions, so when people were telling me the starter kit would be in the legacy tab, I decided to wait and see what happened and what the new offering would be. I do understand the frustration of people who chose something other than Bolt/Quip from the first one and now wish they'd known in advance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Hmm, they really want us to run a dual sword build. But then it'd not match with my Shining Blade! I suppose I can just get bolt and skin Shining blade over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cernoch.8524 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It is a bit weird that some repeated but it seems that weapons that can be dual wielded will stay? pistol pistol thief, sword sword guard, etc...so it even makes a bit of sense. Not changed prices on luck, T5 or few other stuff and not added more things, especially with 5 weeks longer season is pretty bad imo. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adzekul.3104 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 Someone on Reddit says they selected Bolt from the second kit, and got nothing. Maybe the 2 repeats are a bug? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky.4861 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Jianyu.7065 said: What do you mean by "noob traps" - there is an excess of acclaim.... They're called noob traps because they look like they're valuable when in fact they are the opposite. Ie: the kind of thing a noob would fall for, but not someone who does a little research. Tier 5 bags, really? Essence of luck? Obsidian shards? All are much cheaper to acquire considering the range of items you can get with astral acclaim. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorani.7205 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 If it isn't a bug (just two weapons from the old kit have been replaced, not four???) it feels like a very subjective push towards dual pistol or dual sword builds for Thief, Guard (or sword/pistol) combos. I was kind of hoping for Frostfang, but if that kit is staying as it is now, it will be Moot (although re-skinned with something less silly). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanek.5983 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 What this boils down to for me is, I wish everyone had been given a heads up that the "sets" could have repeats in them. Some people were thinking the old kit would go to the legacy tab and be available forever, but I was wondering if it would be something that rotated in and out as the vault contents were changed. There are 20 gen 1 weapons (not including Eternity which is a special case), so that would be 5 starter kit sets. It might take a while to get to the one you want or to collect more than one from a set, but that made sense to me. Now, I'm not sure what to think the plan is going to be. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Hiver.9237 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It seems I made a mistake picking my first legendary to be bolt instead of the staff, since now I'm left with 3 weapons my character can't even use, and the final one I already got last chest. Wouldn't it be an idea to just offer all the previously unlocked legendaries to choose from (which would mean the tier 2 kit we got now would have 6 options, the original 4 and now the added 2). This way, you still reward players to buy the legendary kit during playtime, as well as not limit them in a lucky rol on the rng on which weapon will unlock next, or which ones will be available for half a year... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jianyu.7065 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Funky.4861 said: They're called noob traps because they look like they're valuable when in fact they are the opposite. Ie: the kind of thing a noob would fall for, but not someone who does a little research. Tier 5 bags, really? Essence of luck? Obsidian shards? All are much cheaper to acquire considering the range of items you can get with astral acclaim. To clarify my statement - why make an issue out of it since there is an over abundance of acclaim. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stx.4857 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Jianyu.7065 said: What do you mean by "noob traps" - there is an excess of acclaim.... Noob traps are items with such a low value that only noobs would buy them. You can buy 1 gold for 30 acclaim endlessly, the noob traps are the items that are worth significantly less than that like the luck, obsidian shards, t5 craft bags etc. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDoll.6027 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Jianyu.7065 said: What do you mean by "noob traps" - there is an excess of acclaim.... You can spend acclaim for gold bag and buy materials from trade post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky.4861 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Jianyu.7065 said: To clarify my statement - why make an issue out of it since there is an over abundance of acclaim. It's only an issue if you don't play enough for there to be an overabundance of AA and you spend it thinking that you're getting value when it's deceptive. For example: you can buy all the mats in a t5 crafting bag PLUS some extras for the 1gold u get for 30 AA. You can get essences of luck by salvaging gear- if anet had put BL salvage kits instead of essences of luck, that would be a different story. Obsidian shards can be bought with karma from the cleansed temple of balthazar; they can also be mined from the ore node in the PoF and EoD guild halls. But some people might see the purple and think "Ohh, it's a legendary item. It must be worth something or have a special use." Which it does, but AA is probably the worst currency to spend to get them, especially as there is a finite number you can buy from the vault (until it refreshes). 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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