Lighter.5631 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 another useless weapon for bladesworn haha really a failed elite spec 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 @Lighter.5631 i said it Back then and will ever say it. Bladesworn was a hell of a meme spec. For real who would gues that a spec that relies on hit a burst skill that got this hell of a obviously long stationary Cast time would be good for a Game with movement gameplay .... xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphemeralWallaby.7643 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) I'm cautiously optimistic for the staff. Trying not to get my hopes high, nor speculate on the specifics of the skill bcs it won't be what I want if I do. Still, it'll be interesting to see if I can tank harder champs with it than I currently can w/ my sw/sw might-heal cele build and d/d might-heal cmndr build. Also... all those spear skins that exist for the staff 🤤 ~EpWa Edited November 11, 2023 by EphemeralWallaby.7643 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) What u guys are expecting to try shout+ banners (banner of tactics)with staff or there is something better? Edited November 12, 2023 by Aeolus.3615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Aeolus.3615 said: What u guys are expecting to try shout+ banners (banner of tactics)with staff or there is something better? I'm running that but defense banner atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: I'm running that but defense banner atm. Core warr with Tactics, discipline, defense and banner of defense with shouts (shield Mastery should work for bullet catcher) might end up as a rather useful build to micro heal and mainly reflect. Especially in wvw. Cause you focus on heals from shouts and staff/wh and you slot the banner with the barrier an regen. Low key might be worth trying. But I doubt it can outmatched the proper secondaries ofc. Edit: either with karakosa for field blasting from the banner or water fields, or with Trooper for cleanses. I don't think anything heal oriented for the relic will benefit the warr much (dwayna/water etc). Edited November 12, 2023 by Grand Marshal.4098 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: Core warr with Tactics, discipline, defense and banner of defense with shouts (shield Mastery should work for bullet catcher) might end up as a rather useful build to micro heal and mainly reflect. Especially in wvw. Cause you focus on heals from shouts and staff/wh and you slot the banner with the barrier an regen. Low key might be worth trying. But I doubt it can outmatched the proper secondaries ofc. Edit: either with karakosa for field blasting from the banner or water fields, or with Trooper for cleanses. I don't think anything heal oriented for the relic will benefit the warr much (dwayna/water etc). How much regen values per ticks can u reach? does break the 1k per tick regen? (Anet nerfed it on herald to 989 regen tick from ~1090 @2200 healing power) The only relics i have been thinking that could help would be monk and trooper. Edited November 12, 2023 by Aeolus.3615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Aeolus.3615 said: How much regen values per ticks can u reach? does break the 1k per tick regen? (Anet nerfed it on herald to 989 regen tick from ~1090 @2200 healing power) The only relics i have been thinking that could help would be monk and trooper. Probably close to 800 after modifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: Probably close to 800 after modifiers. that's a good value i do close to 1k with all the modifiers as well tho (not using minstrell stats but using "weaker stats" with more healing power). 800 regen with 3k'ish heals from shouts plus some heals from warrior staff with condi cleanse based relic m8 give an interesting result, also it seams that traitline tactics 2-2-2 can become default to help with the staff and shouts weapons heals. Was pondering to test somethign arorund this (proly not with minstrells ) support but keep also with the debuffer try harder, that Anet despise. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PKgEgEWWBDjdx6YnYSdZ/uA-DWJYjRD/JYz3CAA-w Edited November 12, 2023 by Aeolus.3615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphemeralWallaby.7643 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Aeolus.3615 said: What u guys are expecting to try shout+ banners (banner of tactics)with staff or there is something better? I prefer the might-heal of Str+Tac right now, so I'll probably start with that paired with either Def or Disc. The only banner I tend to equip is the elite because it's an incredible revive, and pairs great with relic of the zepheryte. ~EpWa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 @Aeolus.3615 you also missed the sigil that heals Team mates per weaponsweap. It will gonna be realy good on the 5 Seconds weaponsweap CD xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 48 minutes ago, Myror.7521 said: @Aeolus.3615 you also missed the sigil that heals Team mates per weaponsweap. It will gonna be realy good on the 5 Seconds weaponsweap CD xd sadly renewal has an icd iirc, otherwise it would be awesome for warriors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KryTiKaL.3125 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/10/2023 at 8:09 PM, Lighter.5631 said: another useless weapon for bladesworn haha really a failed elite spec I'm not so sure about the "useless" aspect there. It may not be damage, but it will be utility and it will make Defense Bladesworn even more unkillable for sure. We already know its getting a mobility skill that heals and gives boons, and another skill that is a channeled block with a flip skill that heals for how many attacks are blocked. Pair that all with the current kit that Defense Bladesworn runs with Adrenal Health, Combat Stimulant, Might Makes Right, Aegis from Triggerguard plus Relic of the Defender. So like I said, not so sure that it will be useless... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 @Grand Marshal.4098 Sadly you are right ..... mehh xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 9:35 AM, Dadnir.5038 said: Friendly reminder to always take what the devs say with a pinch of salt. A skill that share might can be seen as a support skill after all. this is true. Also I dont like how Anet handled Revenant Staff whi8ch was supposed to be a support melee staff as well, but started out the gate bad ad supoport and more of a side weapon for DPS builds for strong CC and burst damage and poor healing. Telling yall now. That Block to Heal mechanic is a bad concept. Because you will never get the full block out of it to get the full heal, since you have to use it during the channel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphemeralWallaby.7643 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Myror.7521 said: @Grand Marshal.4098 Sadly you are right ..... mehh xd Superior sigil of water might see more use, though. Maybe. ~EpWa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoosh.2718 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 1:09 AM, Lighter.5631 said: another useless weapon for bladesworn haha really a failed elite spec Mainhand pistol could have saved it... Real kitten shame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdict is Vengence.6912 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Smoosh.2718 said: On 11/10/2023 at 7:09 PM, Lighter.5631 said: another useless weapon for bladesworn haha really a failed elite spec Mainhand pistol could have saved it... Real kitten shame. Sometimes I still think about what could have been with that mainhand pistol. They could've made it like a shotgun, short range aoe, which would go well with the short range of offhand pistol. Oh well. /sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 What they should have done is make an elite spec that more mobility and support oriented with staff fro EoD, in order to have a weapon which synergizes with all specs and a particular spec which further augments teh healer/sustain role, while keeping dual pistols as our special weapons for SotO. Imagine the universe where this happened and warrior mains were eating well for years... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: What they should have done is make an elite spec that more mobility and support oriented with staff fro EoD, in order to have a weapon which synergizes with all specs and a particular spec which further augments teh healer/sustain role, while keeping dual pistols as our special weapons for SotO. Imagine the universe where this happened and warrior mains were eating well for years... Instead we got Weebsworn with it's rock-paper-scissors-kamehameha-bankai-kaoken x100-hadoken-domain expansion-rasenshuriken-starburst stream-slash... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said: sadly renewal has an icd iirc, otherwise it would be awesome for warriors yeah I know tks anyway guys I use that sigil in my 2nd weapon @Lan Deathrider.5910 fan service from Net 🙂 Edited November 13, 2023 by Aeolus.3615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 @Lighter.5631 i might be alone with this Statement but to me Bladesworn is nothing more than a meme spec. Its like take its good Part away and gain it a hard hit Skill that gain things of warriors worst Part (been telegraphed af). I for real can't take this spec srs. Like the only reason why i Play it is cause its fun in PvE against npcs enemys that are bots and eating every 125dmg dragonslash im doing xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Myror.7521 said: Like the only reason why i Play it is cause its fun in PvE against npcs enemys that are bots and eating every 125dmg dragonslash im doing Just wait for the future, in which PvE enemies will be able to not only move backwards as they do know, but they'll also be able side-step and jump over attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Aeolus.3615 said: yeah I know tks anyway guys I use that sigil in my 2nd weapon @Lan Deathrider.5910 fan service from Net 🙂 Yeah, too bad they botched the mechanics on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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