Charr afterlife?

[Lucius.2140]

Where do my 11 charracters will go after death?

- 10* - the necro is surely becoming a Lich Charr

[Dayra.7405]

Afterlife? We are in an infinite revive on next WP loop 😀

Edited December 12, 2023 by Dayra.7405

[SoftFootpaws.9134]

its established in canon that the various races go to different afterlives depending on whatever powerful entities they're associated with, and those that don't have anything to "anchor" them just kind of become lost in the mists since there's nothing to pull them towards a particular realm.

 

spoilers for heart of thorns and path of fire

for example, when eir and snaff died, it seems they were pulled into glint's realm in the mists, rather than being separated; the sylvari somehow return to the dream even if they've been corrupted by modremoth, and the commander was pulled into the domain of the lost because of being killed by balthazar, even if they don't follow or "believe" in him at all. this would mean that most charr, who don't believe in gods, would likely end up somewhere associated with the nature of their deaths, and i wouldn't be surprised if many end up in realms similar to the eternal battlegrounds.

 

we see very few charr ghosts in the game, especially those that come from the mists, so its left ambiguous.

Edited December 12, 2023 by SoftFootpaws.9134

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

+1 for the Eternal Battlegrounds. Charr go to Charrhalla.

[Farohna.6247]

Charrhalla with meatoberfest every day!

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

@Rubi Bayer.8493, can we make Charrhalla with Meatoberfest nightly canon pretty please?

[Kalavier.1097]

2 hours ago, SoftFootpaws.9134 said:

The commander was pulled into the domain of the lost because of being killed by balthazar, even if they don't follow or "believe" in him at all.

The commander was sent to the domain of the lost because their death was so painful and horrific, the only way their soul could handle it was by purging all memories and sense of self. This is why the domain of the lost has members of all races. Once they regain their self and memories, they get funneled to whatever god-realm they are linked to. Kormir's followers get sent to her realm. Norn get sent to the spirits of the wild, etc.

That's why the one couple who died in the Maguuma decided to simply stay in the domain of the lost, as they didn't want to be separated again.

[Konig Des Todes.2086]

11 hours ago, SoftFootpaws.9134 said:

its established in canon that the various races go to different afterlives depending on whatever powerful entities they're associated with,

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we see very few charr ghosts in the game, especially those that come from the mists, so its left ambiguous.

This part is correct.

11 hours ago, SoftFootpaws.9134 said:

and those that don't have anything to "anchor" them just kind of become lost in the mists since there's nothing to pull them towards a particular realm.

 

spoilers for heart of thorns and path of fire

for example, when eir and snaff died, it seems they were pulled into glint's realm in the mists, rather than being separated; the sylvari somehow return to the dream even if they've been corrupted by modremoth, and the commander was pulled into the domain of the lost because of being killed by balthazar, even if they don't follow or "believe" in him at all. this would mean that most charr, who don't believe in gods, would likely end up somewhere associated with the nature of their deaths, and i wouldn't be surprised if many end up in realms similar to the eternal battlegrounds.

This part is not.

Firstly, Glint does not have a realm in the Mists - she was pulling forces from multiple afterlives being affected by Kralkatorrik's rampages in the Mists. This is most evident with Gwen, who is also in Glint's army and was resting in the Underworld as we saw her briefly during Hall of Chains before joining said Glint's army.

Secondly, we do not know what happens to most sylvari souls - the "return to the Dream" is in-universe theory back when it wasn't even confirmed sylvari had souls (something only confirmed with path of Fire because of the PC dying). Aside from a rare few unusuals, we don't know what happens to most sylvari souls.

Third, the Commander was pulled in to the Domain of the Lost because of their traumatic death - being killed by Balthazar was the trigger, but "following or believing in him at all" is unrelated, as the realm of Balthazar's faithful is the Fissure of Woe. This is why we also see random Pact soldiers who were unrelated to Balthazar's campaign there. And even then, Domain of the Lost is merely a pitstop of sorts - only souls that are unable to recover their name and memories remain there; those that do, or steal someone else's, will go to their proper afterlife.

So charr wouldn't end up somewhere "associated with the nature of their death", but rather somewhere associated with the nature of their life - regardless of religious beliefs. We see charr wind up in the Realm of Torment in GW1, and we see centaurs wind up in the Fissure of Woe (aka Realm of War). Similarly, we see the souls of the insane wind up in the appropriately titled Mad Realm - charr souls included.

 

In short, EVERYONE has "anything to anchor them" - it's not about religion, that's just it for humans since the gods ruled over the related afterlives. As such, chances are that the charr also end up in the Fissure of Woe, the Realm of War, because their culture and attitude is centralized around war, battle, and conflict. Even if they don't die in battle. Excluding those driven to insanity - they, as mentioned, would be in the Mad Realm.

 

Edited December 13, 2023 by Konig Des Todes.2086

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

FoW as Charrhalla confirmed. Would be interesting if the new GoW happened to be a Charr now wouldn't it...

[Lucius.2140]

3 hours ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

FoW as Charrhalla confirmed. Would be interesting if the new GoW happened to be a Charr now wouldn't it...

For real!, they should collaborate to have a charr skin for Kratos.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Lucius.2140

[Infinity.2876]

Isn't Char heaven just Grothmar Valley?

[deatine.2498]

On 12/13/2023 at 6:12 AM, Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

So charr wouldn't end up somewhere "associated with the nature of their death", but rather somewhere associated with the nature of their life - regardless of religious beliefs. We see charr wind up in the Realm of Torment in GW1, and we see centaurs wind up in the Fissure of Woe (aka Realm of War). Similarly, we see the souls of the insane wind up in the appropriately titled Mad Realm - charr souls included.

This makes me wonder, where did the Charr and other races end up before the human gods took an interest in the planet of Tyria? From what I read up on, all those realms are the creation and domain of human gods (and one mad human king).

[Narcemus.1348]

There are assumed to be afterlives other than the domains of the Six. We know if the Dwarves who believed they went to the Great Forge and the Tengu who believed they went to the Sky above the Sky. It is possible these were god realms or tied to god realms, but it is unknown. I personally lean towards the idea that there are a multitude of realms scattered about where any number of spirits could go.

[Konig Des Todes.2086]

8 hours ago, deatine.2498 said:

This makes me wonder, where did the Charr and other races end up before the human gods took an interest in the planet of Tyria? From what I read up on, all those realms are the creation and domain of human gods (and one mad human king).

There's no actual evidence that the Six created those afterlives, it's not even implied in the lore.

Raven holds some dominion over the Underworld, so it's likely that it - and the other afterlives ruled by the Six - existed before the gods showed up, and they just took over a significant portion of the realms since they had so many followers.